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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 7 @ 12:52 PM ET
Honestly, they only care about money and winning, everything else is just noise to them, as long as they can max out their next contracts and pad their stats they could care less about who the next big thing to be drafted to the team might be. That's the problem, the NHL is becoming too much like the MLB or NBA where the team matters less than their stats and maxing out their contracts.
- DariusKnight

Owners have put such an emphasis on profits, of course the people who make any type of profit even possible want as much of it as they can get as well.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 7 @ 12:59 PM ET
Owners have put such an emphasis on profits, of course the people who make any type of profit even possible want as much of it as they can get as well.
- Retinalz

Cue the next new jersey
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
You get paid for scoring goals, not preventing them...
- Retinalz


That is painfully obvious.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:03 PM ET
Possibly relevant for the Canucks, depending on how bubbly they are when meaningful games are meaningful.

https://montrealhockeynow...ans-true-nhl-trade-value/
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
Cue the next new jersey
- TJTD

lol no shit already have 4-5 logos why not more?

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
Possibly relevant for the Canucks, depending on how bubbly they are when meaningful games are meaningful.

https://montrealhockeynow...ans-true-nhl-trade-value/

- 1970vintage

Due to the Rangers reaching the Eastern Conference finals, one of the conditional 2nd-round picks became a 2022 1st-round pick, meaning the Jets got a prospect, a 1st, a 2nd and a 5th for Copp and a 6th.

Thats for a far inferior player to Bo, shows how much Bo should get by TDL.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:14 PM ET
Thats for a far inferior player to Bo, shows how much Bo should get by TDL.
- Retinalz


Or how much they won’t get because they’re close and go for it, then can’t sign him…
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 1:21 PM ET
Or how much they won’t get because they’re close and go for it, then can’t sign him…
- 1970vintage


Or they miss out on moving him, because they haven't finished the evaluation process yet.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:23 PM ET
Possibly relevant for the Canucks, depending on how bubbly they are when meaningful games are meaningful.

https://montrealhockeynow...ans-true-nhl-trade-value/

- 1970vintage

Somewhat encouraging.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 7 @ 1:33 PM ET
Or they miss out on moving him, because they haven't finished the evaluation process yet.
- Reubenkincade

Will they say the famous "ran out of time" quote?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:38 PM ET
You'd think this would be common sense to fans. Even for higher lineup guys who don't have to worry about job security, they don't want to move down a line or lose powerplay ice time. They don't give a poop about Bedard.
- Nucker101

I think big market teams fanbases get this but Canuck fans have always been…”gifted”
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Will they say the famous "ran out of time" quote?
- Retinalz




They seem to be boxing themselves into a corner like the previous regime, so why not?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:46 PM ET
Somewhat encouraging.
- Marwood


Allan Cross - 20 stories about Joe Strummer

https://podcasts.apple.co...201968027?i=1000588536250
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:50 PM ET
Thats for a far inferior player to Bo, shows how much Bo should get by TDL.
- Retinalz

JTM is a center....?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Copied from CA

This, according to Rick Dhaliwal of Donnie and Dhali — The Team:
“Everybody wants an update on Brock Boeser… Honestly, it’s at the kicking tires stage. Due diligence, calling around,” said Dhaliwal. “Will the Canucks retain money in a deal? Depends on the deal, Vancouver Canucks will consider it.
“The Canucks will take a player back, but I was told today the odds of [the Canucks] adding a sweetener? No, not going to happen. Highly unlikely.
The other thing to keep in mind is that all of a sudden, Boeser is finding his game. He’s been much better the last couple of games. Maybe he stays. Who knows? Let’s see where this goes. But right now it’s at the kicking tires stage
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
JTM is a center....?
- TJTD

His faceoff ability is why I think he is perfect for CBJ. Can help KJ or CS with faceoffs and help bolster their wings. Much like he did with EP during this first couple seasons.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
JTM is a center....?
- TJTD

They want to rebuild around him due to his exceptional leadership qualities.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
Copied from CA

This, according to Rick Dhaliwal of Donnie and Dhali — The Team:
“Everybody wants an update on Brock Boeser… Honestly, it’s at the kicking tires stage. Due diligence, calling around,” said Dhaliwal. “Will the Canucks retain money in a deal? Depends on the deal, Vancouver Canucks will consider it.
“The Canucks will take a player back, but I was told today the odds of

- Reubenkincade[the Canucks] adding a sweetener? No, not going to happen. Highly unlikely.
The other thing to keep in mind is that all of a sudden, Boeser is finding his game. He’s been much better the last couple of games. Maybe he stays. Who knows? Let’s see where this goes. But right now it’s at the kicking tires stage

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Copied from CA

This, according to Rick Dhaliwal of Donnie and Dhali — The Team:
“Everybody wants an update on Brock Boeser… Honestly, it’s at the kicking tires stage. Due diligence, calling around,” said Dhaliwal. “Will the Canucks retain money in a deal? Depends on the deal, Vancouver Canucks will consider it.
“The Canucks will take a player back, but I was told today the odds of

- Reubenkincade[the Canucks] adding a sweetener? No, not going to happen. Highly unlikely.
The other thing to keep in mind is that all of a sudden, Boeser is finding his game. He’s been much better the last couple of games. Maybe he stays. Who knows? Let’s see where this goes. But right now it’s at the kicking tires stage


Not our management
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 2:08 PM ET

- Marwood


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
Not our management
- NewYorkNuck


Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
Not our management
- NewYorkNuck

Until I am proven wrong, I am still going to think that most of the humming and hawing is due to ownership not letting management do what they want. FA needs to fully step back and let people smarter than him run the show.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
Until I am proven wrong, I am still going to think that most of the humming and hawing is due to ownership not letting management do what they want. FA needs to fully step back and let people smarter than him run the show.
- Retinalz



If ownership is calling the shots on a rebuild/ playoffs, then you would think someone with a high profile, like Rutherford, would tell him to pound sand and leave.
I think maybe the ownership listens too much to its managers group, allowing themselves to be fooled every year, into thinking they will be a playoff team, as long as they spend to the cap.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:14 PM ET
Copied from CA

This, according to Rick Dhaliwal of Donnie and Dhali — The Team:
“Everybody wants an update on Brock Boeser… Honestly, it’s at the kicking tires stage. Due diligence, calling around,” said Dhaliwal. “Will the Canucks retain money in a deal? Depends on the deal, Vancouver Canucks will consider it.
“The Canucks will take a player back, but I was told today the odds of

- Reubenkincade[the Canucks] adding a sweetener? No, not going to happen. Highly unlikely.
The other thing to keep in mind is that all of a sudden, Boeser is finding his game. He’s been much better the last couple of games. Maybe he stays. Who knows? Let’s see where this goes. But right now it’s at the kicking tires stage

Judging by his movement the last couple of games compared to earlier, it makes you wonder if he just straight up doesn’t bother to bring his maximum effort every night.

Still hilarious that a pretty big contract(cap hit wise) that management signed a few months ago is now one that they’d like to get out of. So much for change.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 7 @ 2:16 PM ET
Until I am proven wrong, I am still going to think that most of the humming and hawing is due to ownership not letting management do what they want. FA needs to fully step back and let people smarter than him run the show.
- Retinalz


That's a pretty difficult thing to prove, no? Unless FA or Ruthy come out themselves and say it, all we'll ever have is rumors.
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