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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 22 @ 1:45 AM ET
CBJ 5-3 SJ c’mon Sharks
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jan 22 @ 2:34 AM ET
Man Bieksa calling Freidmen a rat was the highlight of the game
- CanuckDon

Lol, you caught that too? I pointed that out to the wife. Saying he was pretending like he was sad and concerned, yet he’s the guy that made all this poop public. Full agreed with Bieksa and I read inbetween the lines.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 2:39 AM ET
Waking up to this insanity is surreal. Whatever it’s just a coaching change, right? The drama is well deserved and indicative of how everything is being mishandled.

The only good is the tank and that might end with the new coaching staff coming in. So more misdirection to follow. Like winning won’t help now. Structure or maybe playing the right way. But this group isn’t designed to defend.

Make those trades and maybe just maybe there will be some hope for a better future.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 22 @ 2:41 AM ET
If 57pts gets 1oa need to go 9 & 27
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jan 22 @ 2:52 AM ET
Let’s put this in perspective, Tocchet’s best career coaching year gave him a 53% win average. He’s a career .400 coach and we think that’s magically gonna change. Welcome to the tire fire. We’re going from bad to worse.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 2:53 AM ET
If 57pts gets 1oa need to go 9 & 27
- Nighthawk


Good news: Canucks are 2-8 in their last 10... if they keep that pace up they'll go 7-29 over their last 36 games for a solid 53 points.

Bad news: CBJ are on pace for 53 points for the season, and the Canucks have (according to the Atheltic model) the 3rd easiest schedule remaining. So, unlikely the Canucks will be that bad over the course of the season.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 2:59 AM ET
If 57pts gets 1oa need to go 9 & 27
- Nighthawk


A lotto win gets 1OA draft… lol. I know the odds of bottom 3 are best. But I doubt even the Canucks can get below the Hawks CBJ, AZ and Ducks. Maybe tank below the Sharks and keep under the Habs. But there you go they suck but losses might not pile up enough under new coaching. Unless major trades gut the team. A lot to ask for you know.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jan 22 @ 3:07 AM ET
Just 14 out of the WC, just need 2 points a week.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:13 AM ET
Just 14 out of the WC, just need 2 points a week.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I think if all the other teams just stopped winning the Canucks could get there!
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 3:28 AM ET
I think if all the other teams just stopped winning the Canucks could get there!
- NewYorkNuck


How bad do you think they’ll screw up the draft?

I’m going with Carol’s hockey gods will make it happen for Bedard. This franchise can’t get any lower in futility, can it?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:33 AM ET
He didn’t know why it took so long to fire him but noted the change in schedule quality that comes this week, after the most difficult stretch of the season: they face Chicago, Seattle and Columbus next week.

“I don’t know the reasoning why I’m still here, but maybe because the next games are Chicago, Seattle and Columbus,” he said. “With the new group, good luck!”

He thought he was going to get fired in November, “when there was certain things said,” he quipped, referencing president of hockey operations Jim Rutherford’s pointed, public criticism of Boudreau.

And he paid special tribute to the Canucks’ fans, who showered him with love from just about his first game in charge Dec. 6, 2021 vs. Los Angeles.
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He lingered on the bench on this night, at the end.

“When you’ve been in it for almost 50 years, I mean, the majority of your life and it’s the end, it’s just, I had to stay out there and look at the crowd and just try to say, OK, remember this moment,” he said.

“It’ll obviously be something that stays with me for my whole life and I mean I’ve had a couple place ‘like’ me in the past, but not the way the fans have been treated me (here).

And then he choked this out: “The city’s amazing.”

“I just wish we could have won one for them.

And finally:

“I wanted to savour looking at the stands. Because who knows if I’m ever gonna get this chance again. And just keep that in my mind, in the memory, you know, let it burn there forever. And I was looking across trying to find my wife to see what she was doing.”
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:33 AM ET
How bad do you think they’ll screw up the draft?

I’m going with Carol’s hockey gods will make it happen for Bedard. This franchise can’t get any lower in futility, can it?

- Quinn's Quest


Bedard is going to Arizona to save that sad worthless franchise, Bettman is gonna make sure of that.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 3:57 AM ET
Bedard is going to Arizona to save that sad worthless franchise, Bettman is gonna make sure of that.
- NewYorkNuck


Yeah… the probabilities of catching a break are slim to none.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 4:01 AM ET
Agree this is it. Not a dog amongst those clubs lol

Just a question of how bad they want it.

#character

- LordHumungous


So that set of games went well lol… remember before they signed JTM that character thing was thought about him. But they screwed up by not trading him. Now they may get more for Bo. Who funny enough was not thought of as anything more then a 5-6M long term extension. But 99pnt career year man JTM gets the money bag. Then all hell breaks loose after the team flop to start the season. This group just digs its own grave.

#sell #rebuild
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 8:39 AM ET
Dec 28 @ 12:43 AM ET
Never seen a guy with as many points as him look like such garbage
- Nucker101


And the idiot coach plays him in key parts of the game.


And the idiot coach plays him in key parts of the game.
- Reubenkincade


Back reading there was no confidence in coach BB. Above just an example.

If the story of his replacement didn’t break in the media then would this drama have occurred?

IDK seems more distraction from frustration over play and plans. But that helped the tank. No one has to love ownership or management. But respect is earned with results.

The real problems are the recent comments that made fans flee over the plan that came out in conference. Though it was a conference about the mishandling of a player’s injury. Not noted that player was not performing per his contract. But now can be LTIR to maybe end of contract. Again, not nice or classy but effective.

Who knows this ugliness may lead to something where things turn around. Many believe we’ll just keep sliding into years of futility. I get it and can agree.

Though you know some trades and drafts might change that outlook. Lol the future looks bleak but yet still undiscovered.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
Let’s put this in perspective, Tocchet’s best career coaching year gave him a 53% win average. He’s a career .400 coach and we think that’s magically gonna change. Welcome to the tire fire. We’re going from bad to worse.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Yup and he's never coached at another level to know whether he can actually coach or not.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 9:40 AM ET

- NewYorkNuck

Reality is the team is not winning, the prospect pool is not going to save the team and the president is saying the opposite of what 90% of this fan base wants to happen.

Bruce is getting showered with love because there is nothing else worthy. Team is in a sad state and Bruce's firing his been ugly.


Results matter in sports and Bruce has not been winning. The worst would if Tocchet comes in like the douche he seems to be and drives Petey out of town.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
Reality is the team is not winning, the prospect pool is not going to save the team and the president is saying the opposite of what 90% of this fan base wants to happen.

Bruce is getting showered with love because there is nothing else worthy. Team is in a sad state and Bruce's firing his been ugly.


Results matter in sports and Bruce has not been winning. The worst would if Tocchet comes in like the douche he seems to be and drives Petey out of town.

- manvanfan


I don't think the fans/us fans would have cared so much if at the end of the year Bruce got fired/not retained because his record this year sucks, and the team sucks. It's just the poop way its been brought about and dragged out.

I have a feeling the low trajectory that Benning brought the team to is only going to get lower the next couple seasons, and Petey isn't gonna want to be a part of that.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jan 22 @ 10:00 AM ET
Reality is the team is not winning, the prospect pool is not going to save the team and the president is saying the opposite of what 90% of this fan base wants to happen.

Bruce is getting showered with love because there is nothing else worthy. Team is in a sad state and Bruce's firing his been ugly.


Results matter in sports and Bruce has not been winning. The worst would if Tocchet comes in like the douche he seems to be and drives Petey out of town.

- manvanfan


So the tank continues then. Bieksa said Tocchet is here to break players down. So I guess more trades will be made? That should be good for high draft position this and next season.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:00 AM ET
Reality is the team is not winning, the prospect pool is not going to save the team and the president is saying the opposite of what 90% of this fan base wants to happen.

Bruce is getting showered with love because there is nothing else worthy. Team is in a sad state and Bruce's firing his been ugly.


Results matter in sports and Bruce has not been winning. The worst would if Tocchet comes in like the douche he seems to be and drives Petey out of town.

- manvanfan

If tocchet can drive Petey out of town then he has done his job. A rebuild can finally start around young players that connect with the community and play for their teammates and not themselves
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
I don't think the fans/us fans would have cared so much if at the end of the year Bruce got fired/not retained because his record this year sucks, and the team sucks. It's just the poop way its been brought about and dragged out.

I have a feeling the low trajectory that Benning brought the team to is only going to get lower the next couple seasons, and Petey isn't gonna want to be a part of that.

- NewYorkNuck

It's pretty ridiculous that FA selling the team is going to improve this team but in the end, what's left

Have seen many GM's, coaches, player personnel, assistant's, scouts pro and amateur come and go and there is always that feeling that nothing is going right or gonna get better for a good decade now.

I don't think the right pieces have ever really been put in place to get it done because it's not going to be one man to do it. Rutherford from the outside seems like a pretty decent choice but since he started here it's just been a poop show.

The Tocchet hiring has not been positive, not even for the fact that Bruce firing has been poop but I haven't seen anyone who is literally on board with it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:04 AM ET
So the tank continues then. Bieksa said Tocchet is here to break players down. So I guess more trades will be made? That should be good for high draft position this and next season.
- Quinn's Quest

So another decade of re-tooling?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
If tocchet can drive Petey out of town then he has done his job. A rebuild can finally start around young players that connect with the community and play for their teammates and not themselves
- CanuckDon

You don't bother to listen to Rutherford when he says he has no interest in a rebuild?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:10 AM ET
Bedard is going to Arizona to save that sad worthless franchise, Bettman is gonna make sure of that.
- NewYorkNuck

I agree, just like he did with sad sacked Edmonton and Toronto. It’s definitely happening.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
“They’d be stupid not to keep any one of these guys. These guys are top notch,” says Bruce Boudreau of his assistant coaches. #Canucks -Bruce.
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