What is a better/ more accurate name? Ring of apathy or Ring of Mediocrity ?
- CanuckDon

Ring of Jersey Sales

- Nucker101

What is a better/ more accurate name? Ring of apathy or Ring of Mediocrity ?
- CanuckDon

What are you hearing? Bo wants out or no?

I saw a Twitter poll asking "Is Bear the 2nd best Dman on the team right now?" 80% said yes
- NorthNuck

Schenn is the first

Lebrun:

The return that Vancouver could be looking for in a Bo Horvat trade is one of the interesting things to consider as this market starts to develop.

It might not be what we expect.

I assumed the Canucks would be asking for a futures-only package, as selling, retooling teams most often do when they’re dealing with an in-season trade for a pending unrestricted free agent. But so far, it seems that Vancouver is looking instead for more of a hockey deal — to upgrade at center ice and/or right-shot defense if possible and bring in a player in the twentysomething age range this Canucks management group has focused on since coming on board.

My TSN colleague Darren Dreger first reported similar information on our Insider Trading segment Thursday evening.

There’s no timeline on a potential trade at this point. If the Canucks get an offer that matches their criteria, a deal could get done quickly. But it could also easily wait until closer to the deadline.

Either way, I think it tells you a couple of things that this is what they’re looking for.

First, it tells you that the Canucks don’t feel that competing for a playoff spot this season is far-fetched. And look at the standings. They’re still only a few points back from a wild-card spot.

Second, it could signal the possibility of an acquiring team signing Horvat to a contract extension as part of a trade. That possibility is easier said than done, but if it happens, it would augment the return value for the Canucks.

The difficulty in pulling off an in-season hockey trade like that is that most contending teams with interest in an asset like Horvat aren’t going to want to lose a player off their roster who can help them win now. That’s why most high-profile rentals traded before the deadline go for futures. On the flip side, with so many contending teams right at the salary cap, a team landing Horvat would have to move money out anyway.

And the possibility of Horvat re-signing with his new team as part of a trade? It’s hard, but we did see it happen last season with Hampus Lindholm after being traded from the Ducks to the Bruins. I also wonder if non-playoff teams with cap room to spare would try to get in on Horvat, viewing the acquisition price as worth it in order to cut off the competition ahead of July 1 free agency. That’s a longer shot, I think, but you can’t rule it out.

I would also never completely close the door on Horvat re-signing with the Canucks, even though those chances are certainly more remote now than they’ve been in the past. Sometimes when the reality of a possible trade hits you — both as a front office and as a player — there can be a sudden change of heart.

At the moment, all signs point to the Canucks front office exploring the trade route after being unable to sign Horvat a couple of weeks ago. But stranger things have happened.

Lebrun:




- NewYorkNuck

Whatever.

Lebrun:




- NewYorkNuck

As usual, FA is willing to ruin the teams future to try and get 2 playoff games in for revenue.

Lebrun:




- NewYorkNuck

Playoffs baby. Woohoo

I saw a Twitter poll asking "Is Bear the 2nd best Dman on the team right now?" 80% said yes
- NorthNuck

It’s a cesspool of mediocrity back there behind Quinn Hughes. Schenn is the clear #2 though, how sad is that!

I watched the replay on Center-Ice of the Bruins vs Kings game last night to see how they play defensively. Charlie McAvoy and Quinn Hughes are very comparable players in that they both bring offence but lack somewhat defensive, especially Hughes as he’s not forced to be better defensively like McAvoy. The Bruins are paying McAvoy 9.5 million dollars a year…jeez!

It’s a cesspool of mediocrity back there behind Quinn Hughes. Schenn is the clear #2 though, how sad is that!

I watched the replay on Center-Ice of the Bruins vs Kings game last night to see how they play defensively. Charlie McAvoy and Quinn Hughes are very comparable players in that they both bring offence but lack somewhat defensive, especially Hughes as he’s not forced to be better defensively like McAvoy. The Bruins are paying McAvoy 9.5 million dollars a year…jeez!
- LeftCoaster

It’s a cesspool of mediocrity back there behind Quinn Hughes. Schenn is the clear #2 though, how sad is that!

I watched the replay on Center-Ice of the Bruins vs Kings game last night to see how they play defensively. Charlie McAvoy and Quinn Hughes are very comparable players in that they both bring offence but lack somewhat defensive, especially Hughes as he’s not forced to be better defensively like McAvoy. The Bruins are paying McAvoy 9.5 million dollars a year…jeez!
- LeftCoaster

Thanks Kelly.

3 Canucks on the top 25 leader board.

https://nhlrumors.com/nhl...5-trade-board/2022/12/16/

- Reubenkincade

Hampus Lindholm and McAvoy should swap salaries. HL is a much better player, within the Bruins system.

Thanks Kelly.
- Marwood

Yur welcome!

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- NewYorkNuck

Well that would be disappointing.

Canucks looking for good young roster players who play C or D


Rebuilding teams: “no we’re keeping them”

Contending teams: “no, we need good young cheap talent to stay under the damn cap and win”


Every team: “but here, you can have our version of Studnicka, Bear, Dermott, Vey, Granlund, Gudbranson, Baertschi, Sbisa”

Canucks: “(frank) it, we’ll take ‘em. Maybe we can turn that player around with our great development structure”

Canucks looking for good young roster players who play C or D


Rebuilding teams: “no we’re keeping them”

Contending teams: “no, we need good young cheap talent to stay under the damn cap and win”


Every team: “but here, you can have our version of Studnicka, Bear, Dermott, Vey, Granlund, Gudbranson, Baertschi, Sbisa”

Canucks: “(frank) it, we’ll take ‘em. Maybe we can turn that player around with our great development structure”
- Nucker101

Well said.
👏👏👏

This management team doesn't have a very high bar to reach, to be better than the last regime, but, as of now, I would say they are just as bad.

Well said.
👏👏👏

This management team doesn't have a very high bar to reach, to be better than the last regime, but, as of now, I would say they are just as bad.
- Reubenkincade

Yup.

Well said.
👏👏👏

This management team doesn't have a very high bar to reach, to be better than the last regime, but, as of now, I would say they are just as bad.
- Reubenkincade

I understand they are looking for a young C & RHD. Seems they aren't interested in futures (picks). The future is now.

Well said.
👏👏👏

This management team doesn't have a very high bar to reach, to be better than the last regime, but, as of now, I would say they are just as bad.
- Reubenkincade

They are worse. Benning traded Loui E. he gets the tie breaker

They are worse. Benning traded Loui E. he gets the tie breaker
- TJTD

Benning had 8 years to fuck the team up. JR & PA is merely a continuation of the same philosophy.

I understand they are looking for a young C & RHD. Seems they aren't interested in futures (picks). The future is now.
- VanHockeyGuy

I'm sure teams are just lining up to give up their young quality C/RHD

I'm sure teams are just lining up to give up their young quality C/RHD
- Nucker101

That is why you draft small skilled wingers.

Benning had 8 years to fuck the team up. JR & PA is merely a continuation of the same philosophy.
- VanHockeyGuy

Signing Miller to a seven-year, $56 million is a single action - decade fail move unless they can trade him. And I agree with you since they still missed trading him for assets at the last trade deadline because they Aquaman had to go for the playoffs again...

Signing Miller to a seven-year, $56 million is a single action - decade fail move unless they can trade him. And I agree with you since they still missed trading him for assets at the last trade deadline because they Aquaman had to go for the playoffs again...
- TJTD

Watch Horvat stroll into free agency as the Canucks are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs on Mar. 5.