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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
Bonus Track and Yoko Ono should never be used in the same sentence ever!
- Shuswap Wap


She is so misunderstood. Pity.

TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
2 cups. Boo fricken hoo. Most here have said they'd destroy the team for the next decade if we won a cup doing it.
- Retinalz


The article isn't about his cup winning, its about how he signed bad deals trying to "retool on the fly" to win with the same core.

But while you brought it up Crosby and Geno > Sedins
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
By hanging around the WC spot do folks honestly think Bo and JTM will be dealt? If anything a few players (possibly) Boeser will get moved to clear space to sign Bo. As long as they keep 'hanging around' the Playoffs don't think much will change.
- LordHumungous


Seems likely with this management.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 8 @ 4:45 PM ET
McDavid I'd still pick over anyone else right now. Drai as 2nd best is a stretch, I agree but still top 10.
- Nucker101

70% + of all NHL players polled said McDavid is by far the best in the league right now. Drai when he is at his best can be right there too but top 5 for sure.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
By hanging around the WC spot do folks honestly think Bo and JTM will be dealt? If anything a few players (possibly) Boeser will get moved to clear space to sign Bo. As long as they keep 'hanging around' the Playoffs don't think much will change.
- LordHumungous


"Hanging around the playoffs" 😂

The Canuck way.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
Bonus Track and Yoko Ono should never be used in the same sentence ever!
- Shuswap Wap

Some things are necessary in order to make a point.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
Not really. Because of the timing of the trades the return will decrease for JTM and Brock. He will be selling when the price is low.
- VANTEL


Exactly. Just think what would happen if the closer Bo's camp gets to TDL, they release a statement that they won't negotiate for the rest of the season. This basically means going to UFA.... His return would diminish significantly. After they mucked it up on the Miller trade by letting TDL and the draft pass... then they muck it up for the Bo trade.... I already picked out the dumpster I'm going to burn. It's adorable...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 8 @ 4:59 PM ET
Seems likely with this ownership.
- boonerbuck

TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 8 @ 5:01 PM ET
Exactly. Just think what would happen if the closer Bo's camp gets to TDL, they release a statement that they won't negotiate for the rest of the season. This basically means going to UFA.... His return would diminish significantly. After they mucked it up on the Miller trade by letting TDL and the draft pass... then they muck it up for the Bo trade.... I already picked out the dumpster I'm going to burn. It's adorable...
- boonerbuck


Its incredible that the contract Miller signed makes him hard to trade. The entire NHL is telling JR (who is Alvin again?) that they immediately overpaid.

I bet Lou Lam in New York set them up - he told them to sign Miller for cost certainty for a trade. Then they did it, and now NJ only is offering half the assets and will make the Canucks retain 2m of salary....
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Dec 8 @ 5:03 PM ET
I'm certainly not defending him but they've been on the job one year as apposed to eight of JB. They're aware of the holes and challenges. Question is will they make it worse if they smell playoffs?
- VanHockeyGuy


it is going to be extremely disappointing if they keep Horvat unsigned past trade deadline like Calgary did with JG. WE aren't winning this year it would set this franchise back so far.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Dec 8 @ 5:12 PM ET
You guys are going to be off the main page soon!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:15 PM ET
You guys are going to be off the main page soon!
- TurdFergeson


Only the faithful will know how to find the true path.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:15 PM ET
it is going to be extremely disappointing if they keep Horvat unsigned past trade deadline like Calgary did with JG. WE aren't winning this year it would set this franchise back so far.
- SMP8719



If they lose a player like Horvat for nothing during his prime, that's a fireable offence


No way they can be that (frank)ing dumb and gutless
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Dec 8 @ 5:18 PM ET
If they lose a player like Horvat for nothing during his prime, that's a fireable offence


No way they can be that (frank)ing dumb and gutless

- Nucker101


I agree, however Calgary never fired anyone
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 5:20 PM ET
If they lose a player like Horvat for nothing during his prime, that's a fireable offence


No way they can be that (frank)ing dumb and gutless

- Nucker101


Questionable
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
If they lose a player like Horvat for nothing during his prime, that's a fireable offence


No way they can be that (frank)ing dumb and gutless

- Nucker101

It doesn't matter how much autonomy you have/think you have, you still listen to your boss and do as told in a job.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
You guys are going to be off the main page soon!
- TurdFergeson


We will just continue hanging out near the bottom, we are used of that.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Dec 8 @ 5:24 PM ET
It doesn't matter how much autonomy you have/think you have, you still listen to your boss and do as told in a job.
- Retinalz


That is exactly why I fear it happening... unless they are eliminated which i doubt they will be fully eliminated by deadline FA might say no trade for playoff revenue.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:28 PM ET
That is exactly why I fear it happening... unless they are eliminated which i doubt they will be fully eliminated by deadline FA might say no trade for playoff revenue.
- SMP8719



I refuse to believe it, at that point I'd walk away if I were Rutherford.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Dec 8 @ 5:32 PM ET
I refuse to believe it, at that point I'd walk away if I were Rutherford.
- Nucker101


I wish I had your confidence.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 8 @ 6:03 PM ET
If they lose a player like Horvat for nothing during his prime, that's a fireable offence


No way they can be that (frank)ing dumb and gutless

- Nucker101

They have Pearson Myers and Garland to deal if need be. Maybe Boeser. Have a feeling Bo is staying and will get signed.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:08 PM ET
Here is a recent article on Rutherford's greatness:
https://thehockeywriters....-decision-making-effects/

- TJTD

I probably disagree with most of that article.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:09 PM ET
If JTM and/or Bo gets traded this whole narrative will change.

More to come...

- VanHockeyGuy

No kidding, it will take one thing to happen and wham zow people jumping to the other side like nobodies noticing.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:22 PM ET
The article isn't about his cup winning, its about how he signed bad deals trying to "retool on the fly" to win with the same core.

But while you brought it up Crosby and Geno > Sedins

- TJTD

" but a player like Matheson might be near impossible to get rid of."

2nd last paragraph says this. I've checked serval times and it says the article was written 3 days ago.

Matheson was traded July 16th.

I posted a list the other day that had Marino and Pettersson on it for top 10 best defensive defensemen in the league. For 4M a season is a fantastic contract.

What's been done in Pitt after Rutherford left is much worse than the way he left it.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 8 @ 6:24 PM ET
I'll give JR until the TDL.
- VanHockeyGuy


And then what?
Become a cantankerous troll?
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