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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 9:32 PM ET
It can't help every team be competitive or successful, but it can stop teams from being able to spend drastically more money on payroll than other teams which goes to basic sporting fairness.
- Zezel

Do you think there’s a cap in place for fairness or so that owners can control costs and make more money?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 29 @ 9:37 PM ET
Do you think there’s a cap in place for fairness or so that owners can control costs and make more money?
- Canada Cup


It's so they can control costs, but also, in order for there to be a league, there needs to be many teams, some of which are in small markets. Otherwise it's a regional league, not a continental one. So controlling costs ultimately helps them make more money too by growing the league.

Whatever the motivation is, I think without some form of cap a league ceases to be a sporting league. Like MLB I don't consider really a functional sports league.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 9:38 PM ET
Make it so teams have 2 salary CAP's.

One for home grown players drafted by the team and guys who's first pro contracts. The other for free agents. Make the home grown player CAP higher, so as to promote players to hopefully stay with the team.

Or, make it so players drafted by the team don't count against the CAP.

Boom. Easy. The NHL should pay me for these incredible ideas.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Players would never agree since it would reduce the potential benefit of hitting free agency
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 9:45 PM ET
It's so they can control costs, but also, in order for their to be a league, there needs to be many teams, some of which are in small markets. Otherwise it's a regional league, not a continental one. So controlling costs ultimately helps them make more money too by growing the league.

Whatever the motivation is, I think without some form of cap a league ceases to be a sporting league. Like MLB I don't consider really a functional sports league.

- Zezel

I’m not advocating for getting rid of the cap but of course there would be a league without it and of course MLB is a functioning sports league. It’s just structured in a very different way and there’s an acceptance to having big differences in the teams.

You could have a smaller NHL with just the big franchises with no cap. You could have have tiered leagues with relegation and promotion. There are lots of possibilities, all viable sports leagues. I’m not saying they’re better but you could do lots of different no cap NHL options
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 29 @ 9:48 PM ET
Players would never agree since it would reduce the potential benefit of hitting free agency
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killjoy
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 9:52 PM ET
killjoy
- 21peter

Capitalist swine
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 29 @ 9:53 PM ET
I’m not advocating for getting rid of the cap but of course there would be a league without it and of course MLB is a functioning sports league. It’s just structured in a very different way and there’s an acceptance to having big differences in the teams.

You could have a smaller NHL with just the big franchises with no cap. You could have have tiered leagues with relegation and promotion. There are lots of possibilities, all viable sports leagues. I’m not saying they’re better but you could do lots of different no cap NHL options

- Canada Cup


MLB is more of a an exhibition, like pro wrestling. You know the no names are never going to win and the marquee guys are.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 29 @ 10:01 PM ET
Capitalist swine
- Canada Cup

I'm more of a filantropist swine these days; mostly giving rarely getting
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
I'm more of a filantropist swine these days; mostly giving rarely getting
- 21peter

What a coincidence. I’m a Nigerian Prince with a most excellent business opportunity
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:09 PM ET
MLB is more of a an exhibition, like pro wrestling. You know the no names are never going to win and the marquee guys are.
- Zezel

Sounds like the NHL
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 29 @ 10:24 PM ET
What a coincidence. I’m a Nigerian Prince with a most excellent business opportunity
- Canada Cup

I'm sorry to say that the amount of giving is hardly up to the Royal standard
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 29 @ 10:54 PM ET
Sounds like the NHL
- Canada Cup


You're the NHL!
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
It can't help every team be competitive or successful, but it can stop teams from being able to spend drastically more money on payroll than other teams which goes to basic sporting fairness.
- Zezel


Which is precisely why a luxury tax makes sense. Having a garbage franchise that instead of devoting energies to creating excitement, creating a sustainable market and running a solid team spend time making trades for cap hits (without the pain of actual salary) to get them to the salary floor is what a hard cap does. I remember the NHL prior to the cap, the teams spending the most didn't win ( Just ask 21Peter )
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 29 @ 11:58 PM ET
This Seattle l.a. game is pretty wild
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 30 @ 6:27 AM ET
Make it so teams have 2 salary CAP's.

One for home grown players drafted by the team and guys who's first pro contracts. The other for free agents. Make the home grown player CAP higher, so as to promote players to hopefully stay with the team.

Or, make it so players drafted by the team don't count against the CAP.

Boom. Easy. The NHL should pay me for these incredible ideas.

- GreatGigInTheSky

you may be on to something👍

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 8:09 AM ET
This Seattle l.a. game is pretty wild
- TheMussel


Good offense or bad defense?

Mike Kelly
@MikeKellyNHL
There were 65 total shots in the Kraken vs Kings game.
58% of those shots came from the slot.
League average is around 38 % so, that's one way to end up with 17 goals in one game. 🤯
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
Which is precisely why a luxury tax makes sense. Having a garbage franchise that instead of devoting energies to creating excitement, creating a sustainable market and running a solid team spend time making trades for cap hits (without the pain of actual salary) to get them to the salary floor is what a hard cap does. I remember the NHL prior to the cap, the teams spending the most didn't win ( Just ask 21Peter )
- winsix

Owners will keep a cap with no luxury tax instead of a cap plus the freedom to spend beyond it. They own the PA right now and won’t change the basic economics of a system that gives then cost certainty and works well for them. A luxury tax would also increase the divide between the “haves” and Gary’s babies.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:45 AM ET
I think it is pretty obvious AM34 needs to make more money, the poor guy can't afford to dress himself for our winter. (sorry for the giant pic)

mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 30 @ 8:49 AM ET
I think it is pretty obvious AM34 needs to make more money, the poor guy can't afford to dress himself for our winter. (sorry for the giant pic)


- Symba007

I think it's pretty clear he's a dapper dresser and you're just jelly.
moneyballs
Joined: 07.23.2014

Nov 30 @ 8:56 AM ET
I think it is pretty obvious AM34 needs to make more money, the poor guy can't afford to dress himself for our winter. (sorry for the giant pic)


- Symba007


Who is the girl with the scarf and purse?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 30 @ 9:07 AM ET
Sj coming off a 4-0 win against mtl last night. Leafs have been playing well lately, hopefully this isn’t a let down game.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 30 @ 9:09 AM ET
Sj coming off a 4-0 win against mtl last night. Leafs have been playing well lately, hopefully this isn’t a let down game.
- bryant


Taking off my Leaf goggles and looking at it purely from an objective, just-talking-hockey perspective...I want to like San Jose' chances, but they have absolutely no chance whatsoever. 6-0 Leafs.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 30 @ 9:09 AM ET
Who is the girl with the scarf and purse?
- moneyballs


That purse costs more than your car.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 30 @ 9:16 AM ET
Who is the girl with the scarf and purse?
- moneyballs


Your mom after I kicked her out last night.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 30 @ 9:18 AM ET
Your mom after I kicked her out last night.
- gravyface

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