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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
Comrie sucks.

Cant believe you're still buying that "analytics " roster move at goalie.

Disappointment heading your way

- Boss34


Strange how every goalie round here cant even put up avg. #'s.... maybe playing some proper defense would help?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
Strange how every goalie round here cant even put up avg. #'s.... maybe playing some proper defense would help?
- DirtyDan


Definitely or

Upl is an ahl goalie
Anderson is 41
Comrie played 12 nhl games before landing in buffalo

Nah, it's the defense
Mostly the guy that's an awesome #5 , but is a horrible #4 😀
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
The good:

Tage: on a 100 point pace
Dahlin: on a 90 point pace
Skinner: ppg pace
Cozens: This is his coming out party.
Quinn: Took a bit to get it going but is starting to come to life
Peterka: Love the kid great motor
2nd line: We have a real second line and they're all kids!
Samuelsson: Is going to be a very good 2nd pairing d-man with that contract
Power: Is starting to come into his own, still figuring it out but he just turned 20!

The bad:

No third line meaning Mitts, Olofsson, Krebs, Vinnie...they ain't it
Lack of D depth
Goaltending: The gotta figure this out and figure it out soon, this team needs someone they trust back there that can play 50 games a year


It's very weird that our top line all are around a ppg pace, our second line is turning into a scoring threat, we have a D-man putting up Norris numbers and we are still bottom 10 in the league. The bottom 6 needs to get figured out and so does our goaltending.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
Definitely or

Upl is an ahl goalie
Anderson is 41
Comrie played 12 nhl games before landing in buffalo

Nah, it's the defense
Mostly the guy that's an awesome #5 , but is a horrible #4 😀

- Boss34


Defense comes from the forwards as well
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
Our defense collapses in on the goalie when the other team enters the zone. Way to soft. High scoring chances and penalties are killing this teams playoff chances.



The last few games PK and giving up high probability scoring chances has killed this team. Until this team stops giving up scoring opportunities 5 feet from the net a goalie isn't going to make a difference between playoffs or not. I want to blame UPL but until the PK gets better hard to blame him for 3-4 of the goals last night.

GW against the sabres Stamkos 5 feet from the net, Compher 5 feet from the net. MacKinnon also scored 5 feet from the net all left uncovered.

- sabresfan69


NHL goaltending matters.

Ukko-Pekka LetsEmIn:
Tampa - 25 shots, 19 saves, .769% OT loss
Colorado - 33 shots, 28 saves, .848% loss

Craig Anderson:
Detroit - 45 shots, 41 saves, .911% win

Same defense. Same penalty killers. Same proclivity to take penalties. Different results. This ain't hard to figure out.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
Defense comes from the forwards as well
- DirtyDan


Assplund right? 😀

Joker is the worst ever top 4 defenseman to ever play the game of hockey.

Joker is an excellent 5th defenseman. Maybe the best 3rd pairing defenseman ever.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'd say the problem isn't offense.
- TheSabresTaco


That forward group is just as responsible for their defensive woes. Thompson's line has been dominant offensively so puck possession offsets that. The Cozens line is TBD. Neither Mittelstadt's nor Okposo/Girgensons's lines do anything well offensively or defensively. So if you want to say "offense" isn't the problem, I can listen to that, but the forward group is still not anywhere near deep enough.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
NHL goaltending matters.

Ukko-Pekka LetsEmIn:
Tampa - 25 shots, 19 saves, .769% OT loss
Colorado - 33 shots, 28 saves, .848% loss

Craig Anderson:
Detroit - 45 shots, 41 saves, .911% win

Same defense. Same penalty killers. Same proclivity to take penalties. Different results. This ain't hard to figure out.

- lacaprup


To be fair, there is a massive dropoff in offensive output between Tampa/Colorado and Detroit. The Red Wings don't possess anywhere near the ability to make you pay for your mistakes as the other two. If Buffalo plays like they did against Detroit, but the opponent was one of the other two, Anderson gets shelled for 8 or 9 goals.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
While we're on the subject of easy things this team gets wrong, Craig Anderson needs to start every home game possible. I am so tired of seeing this team lose games at home because for whatever random reason we keep getting the trash in net in front of the home fans.

Since this organization obviously does not give a d*** about the record of the franchis at least toss us the smallest friggin bone for going to see your team lose another season of games.

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Assplund right? 😀

Joker is the worst ever top 4 defenseman to ever play the game of hockey.

Joker is an excellent 5th defenseman. Maybe the best 3rd pairing defenseman ever.

- Boss34



DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
While we're on the subject of easy things this team gets wrong, Craig Anderson needs to start every home game possible. I am so tired of seeing this team lose games at home because for whatever random reason we keep getting the trash in net in front of the home fans.

Since this organization obviously does not give a d*** about the record of the franchis at least toss us the smallest friggin bone for going to see your team lose another season of games.

- lacaprup


Maybe play some defense to help your rookie goalie out.... idk just a thought...
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
To be fair, there is a massive dropoff in offensive output between Tampa/Colorado and Detroit. The Red Wings don't possess anywhere near the ability to make you pay for your mistakes as the other two. If Buffalo plays like they did against Detroit, but the opponent was one of the other two, Anderson gets shelled for 8 or 9 goals.
- buffalofan19


Disagree. Anderson doesn't get shelled by 8 or 9 to anyone. He made 41 saves. Almost as many as LetsEmIn in two games.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Maybe play some defense to help your rookie goalie out.... idk just a thought...
- DirtyDan


You can watch all the Anderson games from your couch. This is a topic for people who go to games.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 11:07 AM ET
You can watch all the Anderson games from your couch. This is a topic for people who go to games.
- lacaprup


Damn guess my seasons are worthless now
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Dec 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Damn guess my seasons are worthless now

- DirtyDan


You are telling me you don't want to see Anderson in the home games and you go to the games? It's a bit early to be drinking, sir.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 2 @ 11:09 AM ET
Strange how every goalie round here cant even put up avg. #'s.... maybe playing some proper defense would help?
- DirtyDan


now don't you start making sense around here. we will have non of that..

Getting a player like Chick-run and joker moving down to top 5 would make this team so much better.

Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
The good:

Tage: on a 100 point pace
Dahlin: on a 90 point pace
Skinner: ppg pace
Cozens: This is his coming out party.
Quinn: Took a bit to get it going but is starting to come to life
Peterka: Love the kid great motor
2nd line: We have a real second line and they're all kids!
Samuelsson: Is going to be a very good 2nd pairing d-man with that contract
Power: Is starting to come into his own, still figuring it out but he just turned 20!

The bad:

No third line meaning Mitts, Olofsson, Krebs, Vinnie...they ain't it
Lack of D depth
Goaltending: The gotta figure this out and figure it out soon, this team needs someone they trust back there that can play 50 games a year


It's very weird that our top line all are around a ppg pace, our second line is turning into a scoring threat, we have a D-man putting up Norris numbers and we are still bottom 10 in the league. The bottom 6 needs to get figured out and so does our goaltending.

- Stripes77


I actually think that Chyrun could help this Sabres d core a lot. Bryson at -10 I think is horrible. Fitzgerald (sorry grit fans) is bad. Pilut I haven’t seen enough of.

The top d. Dahlin. Samuelsson and power are positive +/- right now

Joker and Lybuskin are 0

The god of grit Fitzgerald is -3

And Bryson -13 (after looking it up)


The main issue on d is our bottom pair essentially




TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
Comrie sucks.

Cant believe you're still buying that "analytics " roster move at goalie.

Disappointment heading your way

- Boss34


the post you replied to has nothing to do with analytics.

and fyi, analytics foretold Cozens performing in this manner.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 11:15 AM ET
I actually think that Chyrun could help this Sabres d core a lot. Bryson at -10 I think is horrible. Fitzgerald (sorry grit fans) is bad. Pilut I haven’t seen enough of.

The top d. Dahlin. Samuelsson and power are positive +/- right now

Joker and Lybuskin are 0

The god of grit Fitzgerald is -3

And Bryson -13 (after looking it up)


The main issue on d is our bottom pair essentially

- Sabretooth9


If the Sabres are confident in being able to put out a top 4 of Dahlin Power Samuelsson and Chicken in no specific pairing or hand then I would pull the trigger. Having Boosh and Joker as a bottom 6 pairing would be impressive to say the least.

The real question is what would it cost to get him, and do you still have a plan to fill in the 3rd line with kids and some vets.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 2 @ 11:17 AM ET
Definitely or

Upl is an ahl goalie
Anderson is 41
Comrie played 12 nhl games before landing in buffalo

Nah, it's the defense
Mostly the guy that's an awesome #5 , but is a horrible #4 😀

- Boss34


Both can be true. Their goaltending has been below average and the stats how it. Their defense has been below average too. Th PK has been bad. Big other piece is their offense, they give up a ton of odd man rushes with D jumping in and you regularly see forwards missing their assignments.

If your goaltending is weak to begin with, all these other things are exposing it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 2 @ 11:17 AM ET
That forward group is just as responsible for their defensive woes. Thompson's line has been dominant offensively so puck possession offsets that. The Cozens line is TBD. Neither Mittelstadt's nor Okposo/Girgensons's lines do anything well offensively or defensively. So if you want to say "offense" isn't the problem, I can listen to that, but the forward group is still not anywhere near deep enough.
- buffalofan19


I think we're making two different points here.

I was simply stating that the offense has no problem producing. If you want to call out the group as a whole for not being strong enough in their own end, so be it. When Asplund is on his game, and some will really hate to hear it, he offsets a ton of that.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 2 @ 11:18 AM ET
The good:

Tage: on a 100 point pace
Dahlin: on a 90 point pace
Skinner: ppg pace
Cozens: This is his coming out party.
Quinn: Took a bit to get it going but is starting to come to life
Peterka: Love the kid great motor
2nd line: We have a real second line and they're all kids!
Samuelsson: Is going to be a very good 2nd pairing d-man with that contract
Power: Is starting to come into his own, still figuring it out but he just turned 20!

The bad:

No third line meaning Mitts, Olofsson, Krebs, Vinnie...they ain't it
Lack of D depth
Goaltending: The gotta figure this out and figure it out soon, this team needs someone they trust back there that can play 50 games a year


It's very weird that our top line all are around a ppg pace, our second line is turning into a scoring threat, we have a D-man putting up Norris numbers and we are still bottom 10 in the league. The bottom 6 needs to get figured out and so does our goaltending.

- Stripes77


So we have the 3rd best scoring in the NHL and the the 4th worth in Goals Against. it doesn't take a franking rocket scientist to see that DEFENSE and Goaltending are are our glaring issues, Go trade for Chick-run and hell claim Cal Peterson at this point it cant hurt....

If the Sabres had a slightly better Defense core and played better team defense (which by the way makes the goalies job easier) we would be in a playoff position.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 2 @ 11:21 AM ET
If the Sabres are confident in being able to put out a top 4 of Dahlin Power Samuelsson and Chicken in no specific pairing or hand then I would pull the trigger. Having Boosh and Joker as a bottom 6 pairing would be impressive to say the least.

The real question is what would it cost to get him, and do you still have a plan to fill in the 3rd line with kids and some vets.

- Stripes77


There's also a chance your 3rd pair has never played LD before.

It's all just awkward. L/R, no spot on the PP, the contract. Just doesn't seem like a good fit to me.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 11:21 AM ET
So we have the 3rd best scoring in the NHL and the the 4th worth in Goals Against. it doesn't take a franking rocket scientist to see that DEFENSE and Goaltending are are our glaring issues, Go trade for Chick-run and hell claim Cal Peterson at this point it cant hurt....
- hehateme


Petersen has gone downhill the last two years and his contract is well not great.

But I would trade for Chicken
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Dec 2 @ 11:21 AM ET
You are telling me you don't want to see Anderson in the home games and you go to the games? It's a bit early to be drinking, sir.
- lacaprup



I really could care less about the goaltending. Non of them are saviours. Anderson has been good against lesser opponents minus the NJ game he was great. Its too bad he isn't 5 years younger.

We need to put a complete game together in front of any 3 of them. Our team defense is horrendous and the coach's decisions aren't helping.
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