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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:59 PM ET
Tage was taken in the 1st round the year prior to Casey.
(2016) I believe.

Took tage until last year to develop into a mega superstar.

Sabres lack center depth, hate to pass on a guy too soon.

Guys develop differently, casey seemed like a late bloomer from the start. The lack of pull ups and outright youth build. Self described non nhl condition early on and some injuries as well......

Donnie was going to whisper into his ear, I'd give him until the deadline/ offseason before giving up IMO

- Boss34


Can't treat everyone like they are the next Tage. I don't think many are expecting big midseason moves. Most of these talks lately are more about what this team looks like over the next 2 years. Mitts and VO have been passed by the Cozens line and with more prospects coming, their window of opportunity is closing quickly.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 29 @ 11:03 PM ET
Can't treat everyone like they are the next Tage. I don't think many are expecting big midseason moves. Most of these talks lately are more about what this team looks like over the next 2 years. Mitts and VO have been passed by the Cozens line and with more prospects coming, their window of opportunity is closing quickly.
- Lunaion


I dont think its unreasonable to take 22-23 to make a final decision on mitts.

Olo can get moved, there's finally guys that can score.
Skimmer / score again
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:04 PM ET
I dont think its unreasonable to take 22-23 to make a final decision on mitts.

Olo can get moved, there's finally guys that can score.
Skimmer / score again

- Boss34

Mitts should be gone already and he may be soon.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:08 PM ET
Opinions vary
- SABRES 89


It’s not an opinion, it’s factual
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:08 PM ET
And that's absolutely false.
- Buff36


No, it’s not
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 29 @ 11:11 PM ET
I dont think its unreasonable to take 22-23 to make a final decision on mitts.

Olo can get moved, there's finally guys that can score.
Skimmer / score again

- Boss34


It's not unreasonable, but right now, it's also not working and the rest of the lines are gelling without him.

I know Krebs hasn't been great, but the third line issues are doing him no favors. It's just not a good situation atm.

Bright side, if you move them, the next group of kids get to come up and play in a good situation as a third line behind 2 pretty good lines.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
No, it’s not
- jdfitz77

I have seen hits happen where the player takes the puck and scores the the winning goal. Hits do lead to wins, your are absolutely wrong.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
It’s not an opinion, it’s factual
- jdfitz77

Opinions vary
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:13 PM ET
Tonight’s scores:

CAR 3 beats PIT 2
Hits: CAR 23, PIT 49

I don’t get it….
How did Carolina win when PIT out hit them more than 2 to 1 ???

Go ahead 89 & 36, explain that one, I’ll wait….
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
I have seen hits happen where the player takes the puck and scores the the winning goal. Hits do lead to wins, your are absolutely wrong.
- Buff36


In that specific circumstance,
but that’s not always the case.

In GENERAL, the team who hits more does NOT necessarily win. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
Tonight’s scores:

CAR 3 beats PIT 2
Hits: CAR 23, PIT 49

I don’t get it….
How did Carolina win when PIT out hit them more than 2 to 1 ???

Go ahead 89 & 36, explain that one, I’ll wait….

- jdfitz77

I didn't say hits win games, read it again if you can comprehend it this time.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 11:16 PM ET
Tonight’s scores:

CAR 3 beats PIT 2
Hits: CAR 23, PIT 49

I don’t get it….
How did Carolina win when PIT out hit them more than 2 to 1 ???

Go ahead 89 & 36, explain that one, I’ll wait….

- jdfitz77

I don't care who outfits who, that doesn't matter, but a big hit can lead to a winning goal, so that means hits can lead to wins. Again you are absolutely wrong.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:16 PM ET
Opinions vary
- SABRES 89


Explain how Carolina beat Pittsburgh tonight even though PIT had 49 hits & CAR only had 23….

Hmmmmm
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:18 PM ET
I don't care who outfits who, that doesn't matter, but a big hit can lead to a winning goal, so that means hits can lead to wins. Again you are absolutely wrong.
- Buff36


Just bc a hit can lead to a goal doesn’t mean it ALWAYS does
Or even that hits on general correlate with wins

That doesn’t mean a hit is NEVER useful
But if they were as useful as ppl here wanna make them out to be, then more hits would = a win
Yet often times- they don’t
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 29 @ 11:19 PM ET
Explain how Carolina beat Pittsburgh tonight even though PIT had 49 hits & CAR only had 23….

Hmmmmm

- jdfitz77

This is what I said


Watching the Flames and the Panthers, 2 skilled teams that play the game very well and actually HIT guys, not like the Sabres who are a weak team.


where does it say, hits win games

you should quit while i'm ahead.
I'll wait!!!!!!!!!!!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:21 PM ET
This is what I said


Watching the Flames and the Panthers, 2 skilled teams that play the game very well and actually HIT guys, not like the Sabres who are a weak team.


where does it say, hits win games

you should quit while i'm ahead.
I'll wait!!!!!!!!!!!

- SABRES 89


Their SKILL is what wins them games
HITS really don’t have much to do with it

You’re clearly inferring that the Sabres would be better if we HIT more
That’s just not necessarily true
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 11:22 PM ET
Just bc a hot can lead to a goal doesn’t mean it always does
Or even that hits on general correlate with wins

That doesn’t mean a hit is NEVER useful
But if they were as useful as ppl here wanna make them out to be, then more hits would = a win
Yet often times- they don’t

- jdfitz77

You didn't say that, you said hits don't lead to wins. So again you are wrong.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:24 PM ET
You didn't say that, you said hits don't lead to wins. So again you are wrong.
- Buff36


No, i didn’t
I’m sorry you can’t read, but what i said was,
“Hits do not equal wins”

“Equal” does not mean “lead to”
That’s 2 DIFFERENT concepts dude


So again, i am correct
You’re misinterpreting what I’m saying & changing the wording to fit your narrative
Try again pal
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 11:27 PM ET
No, i didn’t
I’m sorry you can’t read, but what i said was,
“Hits do not equal wins”

“Equal” does not mean “lead to”

So again, i am correct
You’re misinterpreting what I’m saying & changing the wording to fit your narrative
Try again pal

- jdfitz77

What! So a game is tied at 1, and I crush you into the boards and take the puck and score the winning goal, I guess that hit didn't lead to the winning goal.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 11:30 PM ET
Tonight’s scores:

CAR 3 beats PIT 2
Hits: CAR 23, PIT 49

I don’t get it….
How did Carolina win when PIT out hit them more than 2 to 1 ???

Go ahead 89 & 36, explain that one, I’ll wait….

- jdfitz77


Kinda funny you use this as an example. The game winning goal was bcz a Carolina player hit a Pittsburgh player.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:33 PM ET
What! So a game is tied at 1, and I crush you into the boards and take the puck and score the winning goal, I guess that hit didn't lead to the winning goal.
- Buff36



And what if u hit me, & take the puck,
& then DON’T score…?
Just bc u made the hit, it doesn’t mean you will win


Yes, a hit *can* lead to a goal
And a goal can lead to a win

However, hits don’t always lead to goals
An overwhelming majority of the time they don’t
So therefor, hitting more doesn’t mean you’ll necessarily win
That is an inarguable fact

You’re having a different convo to fit your narrative

A hit can lead to a win,
but it doesn’t necessarily mean that you will win
There just isn’t a correlation
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:35 PM ET
Kinda funny you use this as an example. The game winning goal was bcz a Carolina player hit a Pittsburgh player.
- joshs


Agreed

A hit can lead to a win
Of course that’s possible

BUT
If the Sabres hit more, it doesn’t mean we’ll win more- not necessarily

Hits can (at times) lead to a win
But hits don’t = wins

There’s a lot that goes into a win
Sometimes hits matter, sometimes they don’t
It’s not a hard concept to grasp really
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Nov 29 @ 11:43 PM ET
Agreed

A hit can lead to a win
Of course that’s possible

BUT
If the Sabres hit more, it doesn’t mean we’ll win more

Hits can (at times) lead to a win
But hits don’t = wins

There’s a lot that goes into a win
Sometimes hits matter, sometimes they don’t
It’s not a hard concept to grasp really

- jdfitz77


I think most grasp the concept just fine.
But, lord help them if they say they think hitting contributes to winning. Their statement will be taken to the extreme by someone trying to tell them how wrong the thing which they never really actually said is.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 11:43 PM ET
Agreed

A hit can lead to a win
Of course that’s possible

BUT
If the Sabres hit more, it doesn’t mean we’ll win more

Hits can (at times) lead to a win
But hits don’t = wins

There’s a lot that goes into a win
Sometimes hits matter, sometimes they don’t
It’s not a hard concept to grasp really

- jdfitz77


I can understand that.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:44 PM ET
I can understand that.
- joshs


*some* don’t
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