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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
Actually Dahlin should have played Stammer in the OT goal. Tuh takes his man out of the play.

Dahlin covering nobody on the other side of the net.

- DirtyDan


Dahlin covered the first guy coming into the zone. Tuch came in behind that guy and also tried to play him and that left Stamkos alone. Dahlin had already engaged the guy as he was the man that was back. Why on earth would they switch guys?
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
If Donnie doesn't throw out the Mittlfat line we are talking about how great the game was last night.

Wish he would take some accountability.

- DirtyDan


He comes in front of the press and says It’s a learning experience. The very next day there are no changes to the lines at practice. It’s a sad joke
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
Sure, Tage could have gotten back to cover Tuch's man. That goal is on Tuch.
- Slump Buster

2 Tampa players skate past Tage at there Blue line as he lolligags back, if he skates hard back with them he takes the middle of the ice away. And like I said plenty of crappy plays
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Dahlin covered the first guy coming into the zone. Tuch came in behind that guy and also tried to play him and that left Stamkos alone. Dahlin had already engaged the guy as he was the man that was back. Why on earth would they switch guys?
- Slump Buster


Dahlin didnt enage till Tuch already took him out.

Its 3v3. You pick up the next guy. Dahlin moves up to Stammer and Tage takes the lane from Hedman.

Tage skates hard off the draw though and its different coverage.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
He comes in front of the press and says It’s a learning experience. The very next day there are no changes to the lines at practice. It’s a sad joke
- joshs

He gave them a stern talking to in the Locker Room
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
He gave them a stern talking to in the Locker Room
- Buff36


Ha I doubt he even did that much. Probably more like the im not mad I’m just disappointed talk to the guys.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
I know it wont happen cause theyre BFF's but..

KA should be trading away or sending down Fitz without even letting Donnie know.

Enough of this favouritism bs
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
Dahlin didnt enage till Tuch already took him out.

Its 3v3. You pick up the next guy. Dahlin moves up to Stammer and Tage takes the lane from Hedman.

Tage skates hard off the draw though and its different coverage.

- DirtyDan


But that's the thing - Dahlin was going for the guy as it was his man. Tuch did go to take him out, and he shouldn't have. There is no way that the second man coming back should be trying to pick up the first man into the zone, especially 3v3. Tuch helps out a lot like that 5v5 when there are more guys on the ice, which if fine in that situation. You can see the "oh bleep" moment when Dahlin realizes that the second guy coming into the zone (Tuch's guy) was all alone.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
But that's the thing - Dahlin was going for the guy as it was his man. Tuch did go to take him out, and he shouldn't have. There is no way that the second man coming back should be trying to pick up the first man into the zone, especially 3v3. Tuch helps out a lot like that 5v5 when there are more guys on the ice, which if fine in that situation. You can see the "oh bleep" moment when Dahlin realizes that the second guy coming into the zone (Tuch's guy) was all alone.
- Slump Buster


I just watched the play 12 times.

Tuch skates with 20 on Tampa the WHOLE way down the ice.... Where is Dahlin going for him? When hes already infront of UPL......

Tuch is skating with him form the offensive zone....
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
2 Tampa players skate past Tage at there Blue line as he lolligags back, if he skates hard back with them he takes the middle of the ice away. And like I said plenty of crappy plays
- Buff36


Tage absolutely took his time getting back up ice, and if Tuch hadn't had a brain cramp then it very likely would have been Tage's man open in the slot (they were actually both open). But the issue happened when it was 2v2 in the zone. We had men back and it should have been fine.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Tage absolutely took his time getting back up ice, and if Tuch hadn't had a brain cramp then it very likely would have been Tage's man open in the slot (they were actually both open). But the issue happened when it was 2v2 in the zone. We had men back and it should have been fine.
- Slump Buster



https://www.youtube.com/w...HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET

7:26 Dahlin points to Tuch to take 20..... HE POINTS telling him to take the guy and he still follows up behind... hes gotta jump up and grab the next guy
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
I just watched the play 12 times.

Tuch skates with 20 on Tampa the whole way own the ice.... Where is Dahlin going for him? When hes already infront of UPL......

- DirtyDan


He did chase him down the ice. If it was that close Tuch would have stripped him earlier. Again, you can't do that 3v3. You stay on your man. Tuch should have let that guy go and taken the guy that was right behind him. It is absurd to think that Dahlin should have left his spot to go into the high slot to pick up a different player.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
People’s who’s fault the Lightning scored 6 goals:
Dahlin
Tuch
Thompson
Bryson
Fitz
Mitts
VO
Asplud

People who share no blame.
UPL
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
He did chase him down the ice. If it was that close Tuch would have stripped him earlier. Again, you can't do that 3v3. You stay on your man. Tuch should have let that guy go and taken the guy that was right behind him. It is absurd to think that Dahlin should have left his spot to go into the high slot to pick up a different player.
- Slump Buster



https://www.youtube.com/w...HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET

7:26 watch Dahlin tell Tuch with his gesture to take 20.... Its on video

3v3 you do absurd things like play position less hockey.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuDfl3HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET

7:26 Dahlin points to Tuch to take 20..... HE POINTS telling him to take the guy and he still follows up behind... hes gotta jump up and grab the next guy

- DirtyDan


Fair enough - it wasn't as egregious as I thought. But Dahlin really seems unsure when he points - I don't know if he loved the fact that Tuch was on him so much, and he might have seen that Tuch wasn't looking at him. It doesn't change the fact that you're asking a player to charge out into the slot as it would make it a lot easier to skate around him if he was coming at you. Dahlin ended up in no-mans land.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuDfl3HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET

7:26 watch Dahlin tell Tuch with his gesture to take 20.... Its on video

3v3 you do absurd things like play position less hockey.

- DirtyDan



The positions had nothing to do with it. Dahlin was back and the player back will always take a guy closing in on the net at that point. Tuch charging the guy like that puts Dahlin in a bad position.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
Fair enough - it wasn't as egregious as I thought. But Dahlin really seems unsure when he points - I don't know if he loved the fact that Tuch was on him so much, and he might have seen that Tuch wasn't looking at him. It doesn't change the fact that you're asking a player to charge out into the slot as it would make it a lot easier to skate around him if he was coming at you. Dahlin ended up in no-mans land.
- Slump Buster


Its his own fault. Just cover the slot. If the guys walks around Tuch then its Tuchs fault. But you can't leave the high slot open, thats his job there and he doesnt take care of it.

Again if 20 walks around Tuch and scores then thats on Tuch and part of hockey is having assignments and having to take care of that assignment. You cant always help your teammates out or someone gets left open.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Its his own fault. Just cover the slot. If the guys walks around Tuch then its Tuchs fault. But you can't leave the high slot open, thats his job there and he doesnt take care of it.

Again if 20 walks around Tuch and scores then thats on Tuch and part of hockey is having assignments and having to take care of that assignment. You cant always help your teammates out or someone gets left open.

- DirtyDan


You can't charge the slot from Dahlin's position as the guy could easily walk right around him. That's why he didn't charge even when he saw everything break down.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
The positions had nothing to do with it. Dahlin was back and the player back will always take a guy closing in on the net at that point. Tuch charging the guy like that puts Dahlin in a bad position.
- Slump Buster


Its 3v3 not normal hockey... Dahlin has to jump the gun and cover the high slot. Tuch is already covering 20... like what
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Didn’t someone poop all over me for saying the Tuch honeymoon phase was over a week or so back…….

Seems like it is.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:45 PM ET
You can't charge the slot from Dahlin's position as the guy could easily walk right around him. That's why he didn't charge even when he saw everything break down.
- Slump Buster


Thats why you use your body.... Tuch is a big boy.

Tage doesnt back check hard enough and Dahlin tries taking the guy Tuch is playing....

Tuch was the only one on the play actually skating hard and back checking and covering someone.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:45 PM ET
Didn’t someone poop all over me for saying the Tuch honeymoon phase was over a week or so back…….

Seems like it is.

- ImThatGuy


22 in 22

you guys are nuts
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
22 in 22

you guys are nuts

- DirtyDan

Sure. I’m not the one that has been poopting on the guy though.

Twitter is, this place is.

Seems from the majority it is.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 29 @ 4:51 PM ET
Sure. I’m not the one that has been poopting on the guy though.

Twitter is, this place is.

Seems from the majority it is.

- ImThatGuy


Sabres fans are actual idiots though.... 1 great game and were off to playoffs

1 bad game and its "season over before it started"

2 guys in a shooting lane and everyone's yelling "SHOOT"
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Nov 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
Thats why you use your body.... Tuch is a big boy.

Tage doesnt back check hard enough and Dahlin tries taking the guy Tuch is playing....

Tuch was the only one on the play actually skating hard and back checking and covering someone.

- DirtyDan


Effort wasn't the issue for Tuch. He had no business being there.

Go back and watch it again. The guy has a step on Tuch and had a path to the net. If Dahlin isn't there the guy takes it to the net and then we're mad at Dahlin for not taking the first guy back. The guy only curls around because he sees Dahlin there. It isn't unlike a goalie has to honor the shot first. Tuch was clearly behind the guy coming over the blue line and Dahlin has to focus on that guy. Tuch has the opportunity to engage the guy at center ice and he slowed up.
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