Got it.
Don’t expect goalie to make hard save when needed to help team. Only makes saves that hit you in the chest or pads.

My mistake. Won’t happen again.
- ImThatGuy

Biron did a great segment on this a couple of weeks ago. When you give up a cross-ice pass near your net you are going to get scored on 40% of the time. You can ignore that if you want, but that's what happens. You can't give up those passes, period.

It's bad enough that he played them up 2 late in the game. So much worse that he chose the matchup.
- Lunaion

I’m trying to take the good with the bad with Donny but when we lose like that I want to know that Donny cares and not some non answer, learning experience, poop

Goal 4 he makes the inital save and 3 Tampa player drive the net and Olof doesnt have Stammer covered and he gets an easy rebound.

Not many goalies are making that second save and if they do its a Carey Price.

Goal 6 was broken down coverage again.

Help your goalie out maybe?
- DirtyDan

Sabres are 28th in High Danger Chances Allowed and 11th in HDCF. They put a lot of pressure on their G's.

I pretty clearly asked which games should we have won but didn't because of the goalies. Still waiting.
- Slump Buster

Any game our goaltenders gave up 4 or more goals.

I went back to make a list. 😀

Pit 7-1
Seatlle 5-1
Carolina 5-3
Tampa 5-3

Plenty more.

If you give up 4 goals, your team is generally not winning.


How about you list the games our goalies won or stole for us.

Still waiting....

Why can't he just save the first friggen chance on the 5th goal? Why does he have to let a rebound slowly dribble to Stamkos? Probably the same reason he moves laterally so slow:

He's just not good.
- lacaprup

The guy broke out form the corner. Not sure what you want him to do there.... Why cant we cover anyone ever?

I know South of the border it isn't the best hockey but I would think you guys would have some basics.

Where Power lost the puck and put it right on his shoulder??? oh my thats a reach

Any goalie would have made that save
- DirtyDan

Sabres are 28th in High Danger Chances Allowed and 11th in HDCF. They put a lot of pressure on their G's.
- Lunaion

I know they do.

Paul played hockey in Amherst so it wasn't the best hockey... his goalie HAD to make saves.

- SabresFaninIndiana

I was their for that.

And what it have to do with last night?

Any game our goaltenders gave up 4 or more goals.

I went back to make a list. 😀

Pit 7-1
Seatlle 5-1
Carolina 5-3
Tampa 5-3

Plenty more.

If you give up 4 goals, your team is generally not winning.


How about you list the games our goalies won or stole for us.

Still waiting....
- Boss34

come on Boss, really?

- We scored 1 goal in two of those games. But the goalie is the issue?
- Carolina was the better team in that game
- We've beat last night to death. Complete pond hockey.

I've said all along that our goaltending has not been stellar nor has it been terrible. But sure, I'll bite. Comrie completely stole the Edmonton game. Also, we got run over defensively in the St. Louis game but UPL was first star.

There are also different kinds of scoring chances. The cross-ice passes in the slot are the worst - that's what killed us last night. The goalie is really just hoping that the puck hits him when he slides over. We didn't give those up against St. Louis and UPL stood tall.

come on Boss, really?

- We scored 1 goal in two of those games. But the goalie is the issue?
- Carolina was the better team in that game
- We've beat last night to death. Complete pond hockey.
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- Slump Buster

Some of the ppl here are are actually jokes.... Its like they don't know what they are talking about.

Stick to Football..... The American one

Broken coverage on every goal and our goalie should be saving them all?

PLAY SOME DEFENSE
- DirtyDan

I was their for that.

And what it have to do with last night?
- DirtyDan

it was towards any goalie would have made that save comment.... sometimes goalies suck and don't make saves they should... but it really had nothing to do with last night

Donnie frustration is setting in:


Mike Harrington
@ByMHarrington
No change on #Sabres lines this morning.

come on Boss, really?

- We scored 1 goal in two of those games. But the goalie is the issue?
- Carolina was the better team in that game
- We've beat last night to death. Complete pond hockey.

I've said all along that our goaltending has not been stellar nor has it been terrible. But sure, I'll bite. Comrie completely stole the Edmonton game. Also, we got run over defensively in the St. Louis game but UPL was first star.

There are also different kinds of scoring chances. The cross-ice passes in the slot are the worst - that's what killed us last night. The goalie is really just hoping that the puck hits him when he slides over. We didn't give those up against St. Louis and UPL stood tall.
- Slump Buster

Maybe if his boy could actually kill penalties it would help the goalies.

- SabresFaninIndiana

Both would mean we actually cover on defense...


https://www.youtube.com/w...HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET


Go to 3:28 and watch Girgs give up solid position to slide across the hash marks... fvckin dumb. Legit don't know a dumber player. The googly eye an all.

Maybe if his boy could actually kill penalties it would help the goalies.
- Buff36

It really is a joke, isn't it? If you go back and watch those goals you could see the absolute turnstile that 46 is. I've never seen so many cross-ice passes being allowed. We try to do the same thing, but in the high slot where we rely on a wicked shot to get a goal. They were getting away with that close to the net.

This says a lot.


Sabremetrix📊
@Sabremetrix
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2h
Here's an interesting Sabres stat

BUF w/ one of Power/Dahlin on ice at 5v5:
41 GF, 28 GA

BUF w/o one of Power/Dahlin on ice at 5v5:
9 GF, 20 GA

This says a lot.


Sabremetrix📊
@Sabremetrix
·
2h
Here's an interesting Sabres stat

BUF w/ one of Power/Dahlin on ice at 5v5:
41 GF, 28 GA

BUF w/o one of Power/Dahlin on ice at 5v5:
9 GF, 20 GA
- Lunaion

It says that the goalies aren't making enough saves. Am I doing this right?

Both would mean we actually cover on defense...


https://www.youtube.com/w...HTm4&ab_channel=SPORTSNET


Go to 3:28 and watch Girgs give up solid position to slide across the hash marks... fvckin dumb. Legit don't know a dumber player. The googly eye an all.
- DirtyDan

Almost looked like he was trying out for the Latvian Curling Team with the need slide.

Another way to look at this:

Is it sustainable to continue to give up crazy odd-man rushes and cross-ice passes in front of your net? No. It's been happening all year. Nobody can sustain that. Nobody. Saves or not, we have regularly been getting our teeth kicked in, particularly when certain players are on the ice. You can only cover up bad players for so long.

Also

When you get into a pond hockey game you're playing with fire. If a bounce goes a different way last night we aren't even having this conversation. Sure, sometimes goalies need to make a save, and sometimes they have. We can't continue playing this fast and loose.

come on Boss, really?

- We scored 1 goal in two of those games. But the goalie is the issue?
- Carolina was the better team in that game
- We've beat last night to death. Complete pond hockey.

I've said all along that our goaltending has not been stellar nor has it been terrible. But sure, I'll bite. Comrie completely stole the Edmonton game. Also, we got run over defensively in the St. Louis game but UPL was first star.

There are also different kinds of scoring chances. The cross-ice passes in the slot are the worst - that's what killed us last night. The goalie is really just hoping that the puck hits him when he slides over. We didn't give those up against St. Louis and UPL stood tall.
- Slump Buster

Sabres 5th in the league with 81 goals scored

Sabres 6th in the league with goals allowed 79 scored against.

But goaltending isnt a problem 😀😀😀😀

I'm done arguing, you have no clue.

Have a great day.

Sabres 5th in the league with 81 goals scored

Sabres 6th in the league with goals allowed 79 scored against.

But goaltending isnt a problem 😀😀😀😀

I'm done arguing, you have no clue.

Have a great day.
- Boss34

So you dont' see the correlation? We are playing pond hockey most nights and that leads to goals for and against. But yeah, it must be something else. I had hoped you would post more games where we only scored 1 goal but lost because of the goalie. Maybe tomorrow.

It says that the goalies aren't making enough saves. Am I doing this right?
- Slump Buster

Right on. Deeper look 5v5 GF/GA...all on the goalies.

Power 27-19
Dahlin 22-13
Samuelsson 11-4
Jokiharju 10-8
Lybushkin 4-6
Clague 6-7
Pilut 6-8
Fitzgerald 6-11
Bryson 7-21

That's what happens when you have 26m of cap space, but just have to evaluate Bryson and Fitz for another year.

Marty biron, nicest guy in hockey bagging on upl's performance.

"Techincal issue" Leans forward , makes himself small not big

😀😀😀😀

But...

Your not gonna win with 1 goal

why is everyone so surprised? Our goalies are bad and only 3 D-men are good on this team. Dahlin, power and Sam.

What is frustrating is we are like the 4th highest scoring team in the NHL and the 6th worst GA.

why not try to tighten up the Defense some?