Okposo Moulson Sandella Ott Rivet Sabotka... I could keep going. None of them were as good here as they were where they came form.
- DirtyDan

Following.

Pretty much, also much harder stopping a outside rush to the net
- Buff36

Now you got it.
Power's partner should be defensively sound, not handicapped at the one damn thing we want the guy to do so that a 1OA can do the 4 or 5 things asked at a high level of success.

Pretty much, also much harder stopping a outside rush to the net
- Buff36

I find it a lot easier to defend the rush on my off side. Im a righty and I love playing the left. Opens up a lot more offensively. Helps with the poke check while skating backwards. Also if a guy tries an inside move I can now have 2 hands on my stick instead of one.

Sabres do a natural shift on ice with there Dman, all throughout the game they flop Left to right. Chychrun wouldn't be playing RD all the time.
- Buff36

As d-men should be able to IMO.

If you are significantly worse on one side than the other you are cutting into your defensive ability on half of the ice surface.

My only qualm with trading Vic is there better be a plan on who is replacing 30 goals a year. Until Quinn reliably puts the puck in the net Vic is needed. If it's part of a Horvat deal sure thing. If he's traded for a defenseman, we just lost the guy who scores the most game winners on the team. Vic does seem to have a shred of the elusive "clutch" gene.

I would try to find a team with en elite setup man. Remember the year Cheechoo or somebody scored 50 with Joe Thorton setting them up? If Vic was one of the many Crosby wingers over the years he could pot 40 a season.
- lacaprup

VO's high in goals is 20 to this point. Obviously he's on pace for over 30 this season, but just thought I'd mention that

My only qualm with trading Vic is there better be a plan on who is replacing 30 goals a year. Until Quinn reliably puts the puck in the net Vic is needed. If it's part of a Horvat deal sure thing. If he's traded for a defenseman, we just lost the guy who scores the most game winners on the team. Vic does seem to have a shred of the elusive "clutch" gene.

I would try to find a team with en elite setup man. Remember the year Cheechoo or somebody scored 50 with Joe Thorton setting them up? If Vic was one of the many Crosby wingers over the years he could pot 40 a season.
- lacaprup

Which goals are you concerned about? PP with VO is very average, in fact he's one of the least productive PP forwards in the NHL over his career. His goals are pretty, but he hurts in other ways. 5v5, he's a big net negative. Just have to hope another GM doesn't see through him.

Rosen and Kulich are obvious replacements. Both have great shots and will likely be better hockey players. Both are ahead of expectations for their first year in NA.

My only qualm with trading Vic is there better be a plan on who is replacing 30 goals a year. Until Quinn reliably puts the puck in the net Vic is needed. If it's part of a Horvat deal sure thing. If he's traded for a defenseman, we just lost the guy who scores the most game winners on the team. Vic does seem to have a shred of the elusive "clutch" gene.

I would try to find a team with en elite setup man. Remember the year Cheechoo or somebody scored 50 with Joe Thorton setting them up? If Vic was one of the many Crosby wingers over the years he could pot 40 a season.
- lacaprup

oh I agree

if they wanted to give him a different center and had extended him for 5 years instead of 2 I would have been fine with it

adams has plenty of tools to get what he needs to finish this roster but he has to sell high not dump them when they are worth 20 cents on the dollar

Which goals are you concerned about? PP with VO is very average, in fact he's one of the least productive PP forwards in the NHL over his career. His goals are pretty, but he hurts in other ways. 5v5, he's a big net negative. Just have to hope another GM doesn't see through him.

Rosen and Kulich are obvious replacements. Both have great shots and will likely be better hockey players. Both are ahead of expectations for their first year in NA.
- Lunaion

rosen is making huge strides now that he is playing for rochester and coached by people on the sabres payroll vs being buried on the 4th line overseas

My only qualm with trading Vic is there better be a plan on who is replacing 30 goals a year. Until Quinn reliably puts the puck in the net Vic is needed. If it's part of a Horvat deal sure thing. If he's traded for a defenseman, we just lost the guy who scores the most game winners on the team. Vic does seem to have a shred of the elusive "clutch" gene.

I would try to find a team with en elite setup man. Remember the year Cheechoo or somebody scored 50 with Joe Thorton setting them up? If Vic was one of the many Crosby wingers over the years he could pot 40 a season.
- lacaprup

What seasons were these 30 goals in?

I get your point, 20 isn't nothing ...but if it is a stud D man who reduces 20 a year (unproveable) it's all good

rosen is making huge strides now that he is playing for rochester and coached by people on the sabres payroll vs being buried on the 4th line overseas
- homiedclown

Pleasant surprise, assumed it would take him some time to adjust.

rosen is making huge strides now that he is playing for rochester and coached by people on the sabres payroll vs being buried on the 4th line overseas
- homiedclown

Nice to read this!

Elephant that is not in the room.

Someone said that Chiquorin was buddies with try Pegula kids back in high school.

How do we feel about having that close of a Pegula in the dressing room?

Also heard that he’s kinda like Jack Eichel- a Richard.

What say you?

oh I agree

if they wanted to give him a different center and had extended him for 5 years instead of 2 I would have been fine with it

adams has plenty of tools to get what he needs to finish this roster but he has to sell high not dump them when they are worth 20 cents on the dollar
- homiedclown

To late

Elephant that is not in the room.

Someone said that Chiquorin was buddies with try Pegula kids back in high school.

How do we feel about having that close of a Pegula in the dressing room?

Also heard that he’s kinda like Jack Eichel- a Richard.

What say you?
- Da_Cashman

I would say if Arizona was even close to getting what there asking he would have been traded. If the price is right he can help this team. Little different being a Captain and D!ck, and going to a new team.

Elephant that is not in the room.

Someone said that Chiquorin was buddies with try Pegula kids back in high school.

How do we feel about having that close of a Pegula in the dressing room?

Also heard that he’s kinda like Jack Eichel- a Richard.

What say you?
- Da_Cashman

Those rumors are certainly floating around out there.

Personally, I'm not wed to the Chychrun idea per se; I just want to see the Sabres identify and land a solid piece via trade.

KA has navigated the tear down part and taken his picks, and now it's time to assemble the roster. The second part will require taking a big swing (and hopefully he lands the punch)

Those rumors are certainly floating around out there.

Personally, I'm not wed to the Chychrun idea per se; I just want to see the Sabres identify and land a solid piece via trade.

KA has navigated the tear down part and taken his picks, and now it's time to assemble the roster. The second part will require taking a big swing (and hopefully he lands the punch)
- Hank Balling

Spicy!! Tell me more.

Those rumors are certainly floating around out there.

Personally, I'm not wed to the Chychrun idea per se; I just want to see the Sabres identify and land a solid piece via trade.

KA has navigated the tear down part and taken his picks, and now it's time to assemble the roster. The second part will require taking a big swing (and hopefully he lands the punch)
- Hank Balling

I’m more on the Bo Horvat train than Chiquorin. Tank years were when we got so guy bc we heard his name on HNIC and then he was supposed to come here and be amazing.

Spicy!! Tell me more.
- Buff36

Boring answer: I have nothing substiated on any of it.

The Pegulas have long been linked to Chychrun but there's nothing there other than smoke (at least that i personally know). The attitude issues are in the same vein - we saw accusations similarly leveled at ROR, Eichel and Reinhart.

Could be that Chychrun is just on a bad team, playing at a college arena and he's sick of all that garbage

He does not like cold weather ! no its unlikely

I’m more on the Bo Horvat train than Chiquorin. Tank years were when we got so guy bc we heard his name on HNIC and then he was supposed to come here and be amazing.
- Da_Cashman

I agree with you here, however if Adams does make a big swing he better knock it out of the park.

The Sabres could absolutely use another top 4 D man I am not sold on Chicken being that guy though.

The Sabres absolutely need more scoring from a non Skinner Tage Tuch line. Horvat would help that tremendously. Plus adding him should give the Sabres a stronger middle 6 mix.

Going with

Skinner Tage Tuch
Quinn Cozens JJ (I really like this line together)
Krebs/Mitts Horvat Oloffson

The Horvat and Cozens line playing equal minutes no need to label one the 2nd and 3rd line.

I am assuming one of Krebs/Mitts goes out in the trade probably Krebs since he is younger.

That would give the Sabres 3 productive centers to build around.

Now you got it.
Power's partner should be defensively sound, not handicapped at the one damn thing we want the guy to do so that a 1OA can do the 4 or 5 things asked at a high level of success.
- IonSabres

ChickenRun - Dahlin
Power - Samuelsson

Didnt dahlin play on the right until the nhl?

Those rumors are certainly floating around out there.

Personally, I'm not wed to the Chychrun idea per se; I just want to see the Sabres identify and land a solid piece via trade.

KA has navigated the tear down part and taken his picks, and now it's time to assemble the roster. The second part will require taking a big swing (and hopefully he lands the punch)
- Hank Balling

Also possible he's focused on smaller moves and is content with the top half of the roster. 3rd line prospects are there, but the roster spots are occupied by dead weight. Gotta upgrade the D and get something in the pipeline.

Those rumors are certainly floating around out there.

Personally, I'm not wed to the Chychrun idea per se; I just want to see the Sabres identify and land a solid piece via trade.

KA has navigated the tear down part and taken his picks, and now it's time to assemble the roster. The second part will require taking a big swing (and hopefully he lands the punch)
- Hank Balling

What's the over/under on players that need to be acquired by trade or UFA for immediate play?
2-1/2?

I think a 2RhD, a top 6 and a bottom 6 F. 3 for me please.

What's the over/under on players that need to be acquired by trade or UFA for immediate play?
2-1/2?

I think a 2RhD, a top 6 and a bottom 6 F. 3 for me please.
- IonSabres

I'm not overly concerned with the handedness or position, but for me it's:

2nd line established forward (not "middle-six" or promising prospect)
2nd pairing defenseman
4th line, hard-hitting faceoff guy

What's the over/under on players that need to be acquired by trade or UFA for immediate play?
2-1/2?

I think a 2RhD, a top 6 and a bottom 6 F. 3 for me please.
- IonSabres

Need? I'd say 0. Extend Girgs + Okposo and you have a full team returning.

I'd expect 1 hockey trade, because the composition would still be a problem. Would love to see a little more turnover than that too.