Per Ben Pope twitter...

Hawks practice lines this morning

Athanasiou-Toews-Kane
Kurashev-Domi-Raddysh
Khaira-Richardinson-Blackwell
Katchouk-Entwistle-R Johnson

J Johnson-S Jones
Roos-Murphy
McCabe-C Jones

(I see Luke going with the nuclear option.)

Lafferty out with a back. Tinordi out with a hip.
- boilermaker100

I've been wondering if Richardson would try putting Toews and Kane back together. They've had some really good chemistry on the PP.

Don't sleep on the Hawks 3rd rounders last year also. Savoie (the Marchand light), Thompson and Hayes are all having good seasons for their respective teams. All 3 project better than what is skating in the bottom 6 for the Hawks currently.
- LAHawk

Anything x 0 is still 0.

They rushed Dach to the NHL. They bounced him around the lineup. He got hurt. Then they dumped him for a lottery ticket in Nazar. Won't be long till the Hawks talk about the need for a big centerman who can play against the large centers in the league. Big forwards who skate are hard to find.
- stevefrmglencoe

This I agree with.

Well, this is not something you want to hear.

Ben Pope
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Stalock (concussion) was pulled back from ramping up the past few days as he started feeling worse.

Well, this is not something you want to hear.

Ben Pope
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Stalock (concussion) was pulled back from ramping up the past few days as he started feeling worse.
- Chunk

Certainly no need to push anyone back from any injury this season.

Certainly no need to push anyone back from any injury this season.
- mohel

Just gives Soderblom some more starts. Not a bad thing.

It would be nice if they could get back to some more structured defense in these next few games. At least it would be more watchable.

The more the merrier.
- boilermaker100

I know that a GM has to take the best player available with the eary icks, especially a lottery pick. We can only hope this will turn out to be a forward and a.center is more desirable. At some point in a rebuild Kaneand Toews must be replaced with top line talent

Although I would prefer to see Kane retire as a Blackhawk, I will be surprised if he isn't traded. At least through next season he would feel miserabe putting on the Indian sweater and puking over the on ice product.

I don't believe fans figuring trade proposals inormaly is worthwhile. But the NYR scenario makes a lot of sense. Obviously their .first mid to late first round is not producing as good a prospect fir the great Kane. Even two first round in '23 & '24 is somewhat disheartening. Maybe if we get a rosect back that KD really likes. And even if we have to offer something else. Yeah, we retain salary so as for prosects, any way we want and could pry dman Schneider?

I know that a GM has to take the best player available with the eary icks, especially a lottery pick. We can only hope this will turn out to be a forward and a.center is more desirable. At some point in a rebuild Kaneand Toews must be replaced with top line talent

Although I would prefer to see Kane retire as a Blackhawk, I will be surprised if he isn't traded. At least through next season he would feel miserabe putting on the Indian sweater and puking over the on ice product.

I don't believe fans figuring trade proposals inormaly is worthwhile. But the NYR scenario makes a lot of sense. Obviously their .first mid to late first round is not producing as good a prospect fir the great Kane. Even two first round in '23 & '24 is somewhat disheartening. Maybe if we get a rosect back that KD really likes. And even if we have to offer something else. Yeah, we retain salary so as for prosects, any way we want and could pry dman Schneider?
- jhawk59

They are very unlikely to get a high number one in this draft or the next for Kane or Toews. Those guys want to go to contenders and control the process, so only good teams (with low picks) are possible. Also, bad teams don't want old guys, and do want a shot at Bedard and Fantilli.

They are very unlikely to get a high number one in this draft or the next for Kane or Toews. Those guys want to go to contenders and control the process, so only good teams (with low picks) are possible. Also, bad teams don't want old guys, and do want a shot at Bedard and Fantilli.
- mohel

This is why prospect(s) need to come back along with picks.
- Edit- Tinordi out another week, Mitchell coming back?

They are very unlikely to get a high number one in this draft or the next for Kane or Toews. Those guys want to go to contenders and control the process, so only good teams (with low picks) are possible. Also, bad teams don't want old guys, and do want a shot at Bedard and Fantilli.
- mohel

Agree. Best we can hope for is that Kane selects a contender to go to, said contender suffers some injuries or otherwise plays poorly after the trade, makes the playoffs as a wild card and exits early. Maybe that will turn into a 17 to 22 pick or thereabouts.

Blackhawks AHL prospect update for 11/29: Isaak Phillips is flourishing https://www.msn.com/en-us...9fa5e450288a7f1015b68e20b

They are very unlikely to get a high number one in this draft or the next for Kane or Toews. Those guys want to go to contenders and control the process, so only good teams (with low picks) are possible. Also, bad teams don't want old guys, and do want a shot at Bedard and Fantilli.
- mohel

Seems the most accepted fit/landing spot for Kane is NYR. Close to his Pops, team ready to challenge for a cup, reunite with Panarin. ... Yea, a decent fit cap implications not withstanding.

Been watching a good bit of NYJ lately and IMO Kane is a better fit there. This team seems for real with few holes and a young, speedy, hungry team with tons of skill. He also fits better in Jersey long term with young studs Hughes 21 yrs old, Hishcier 23, Bratt 24, Mercer 21, Holtz 20 than with NYR's older core.

Kane, and even Toews as their 3C, brings 3 cups of experience to a group that might only lack cup experience. And of course NJ is close to his Pops....... Watching the damn fun skill/hunger/hair on fire speed/youthful brand NYJ plays I think to myself Kane would fit like a glove and be as energized as he was during the cup yrs... A line of Bratt-Hughes-Kaner or any mixture with Palat and Hischier can match up offensively with just about anyone.

We know NYJ was heavy after Gudreau in free agency and Kaner plays that same style so it seems Jersey would covet that type of player. They did however sign Palat to a long term 6 mil per deal after losing out on Johnny Hockey.

Yes, Jersey will probably end up with a low 1st rd pick but I'd guess the Hawks might ask for 20 yr old Holtz too. Seems like a fit for both sides especially if Kane would sign long term and that too seems like a fit for Kaner.

Seems the most accepted fit/landing spot for Kane is NYR. Close to his Pops, team ready to challenge for a cup, reunite with Panarin. ... Yea, a decent fit cap implications not withstanding.

Been watching a good bit of NYJ lately and IMO Kane is a better fit there. This team seems for real with few holes and a young, speedy, hungry team with tons of skill. He also fits better in Jersey long term with young studs Hughes 21 yrs old, Hishcier 23, Bratt 24, Mercer 21, Holtz 20 than with NYR's older core.

Kane, and even Toews as their 3C, brings 3 cups of experience to a group that might only lack cup experience. And of course NJ is close to his Pops....... Watching the damn fun skill/hunger/hair on fire speed/youthful brand NYJ plays I think to myself Kane would fit like a glove and be as energized as he was during the cup yrs... A line of Bratt-Hughes-Kaner or any mixture with Palat and Hischier can match up offensively with just about anyone.

We know NYJ was heavy after Gudreau in free agency and Kaner plays that same style so it seems Jersey would covet that type of player. They did however sign Palat to a long term 6 mil per deal after losing out on Johnny Hockey.

Yes, Jersey will probably end up with a low 1st rd pick but I'd guess the Hawks might ask for 20 yr old Holtz too. Seems like a fit for both sides especially if Kane would sign long term and that too seems like a fit for Kaner.
- Mr Ricochet

I kind of lean to that third New York team, the Isles. Kaner and Barzal? and Uncle Lou has always admired Kane, and is never shy about making a deadline deal. Problem is the Islanders pipeline is rather thin, so i guess it would be a 1st and Raty or Salo

Didn't mean to exclude Mitchell and Vlasic. I see them as complimentary pieces. Maybe Mitchell will be included in a trade? There's a baseball analogy about 4A players. Too good to play in the AAA league, not good enough for the majors. He's 24 but for whatever reason - More development needed? KD and LR wanting to play veteran D? Not that highly thought of? Will be a detriment to the tank?- he is stuck in the AHL and is more or less an injury call up.

Del Mastro also drafted in 2021. He looks promising too. Commesso drafted in 2020. Hopefully he signs and does not pull a "Hayes". So maybe the clock started in 2020?

2020 Reichel, Commesso, Wyatt, Slaggert
2021 Allan, Del Mastro, C. Dach
2022 Korchinski, Nazar, Rinzel, Ludwinski

Hopefully about 4 or 5 of them become major contributors and more than "just a guy".
- boilermaker100

Who is Wyatt?

Blackhawks AHL prospect update for 11/29: Isaak Phillips is flourishing https://www.msn.com/en-us...9fa5e450288a7f1015b68e20b
- Mr Ricochet

And here are the prospects not in the AHL
https://www.secondcityhoc...ie-allan-ludwinski-nov-28

Seems the most accepted fit/landing spot for Kane is NYR. Close to his Pops, team ready to challenge for a cup, reunite with Panarin. ... Yea, a decent fit cap implications not withstanding.

Been watching a good bit of NYJ lately and IMO Kane is a better fit there. This team seems for real with few holes and a young, speedy, hungry team with tons of skill. He also fits better in Jersey long term with young studs Hughes 21 yrs old, Hishcier 23, Bratt 24, Mercer 21, Holtz 20 than with NYR's older core.

Kane, and even Toews as their 3C, brings 3 cups of experience to a group that might only lack cup experience. And of course NJ is close to his Pops....... Watching the damn fun skill/hunger/hair on fire speed/youthful brand NYJ plays I think to myself Kane would fit like a glove and be as energized as he was during the cup yrs... A line of Bratt-Hughes-Kaner or any mixture with Palat and Hischier can match up offensively with just about anyone.

We know NYJ was heavy after Gudreau in free agency and Kaner plays that same style so it seems Jersey would covet that type of player. They did however sign Palat to a long term 6 mil per deal after losing out on Johnny Hockey.

Yes, Jersey will probably end up with a low 1st rd pick but I'd guess the Hawks might ask for 20 yr old Holtz too. Seems like a fit for both sides especially if Kane would sign long term and that too seems like a fit for Kaner.
- Mr Ricochet

I don't think the Devils have the cap space to extend him. They have their own young free agents to resign. Honestly I wouldn't bring in Kane if I was them. Keep the youth movement going

I kind of lean to that third New York team, the Isles. Kaner and Barzal? and Uncle Lou has always admired Kane, and is never shy about making a deadline deal. Problem is the Islanders pipeline is rather thin, so i guess it would be a 1st and Raty or Salo
- LAHawk

How much of Jersey have you watched this yr, LA? This team is fun, man. They are my very favorite NHL team to watch right now and that core is young so they will be dangerous for yrs.

They play at warp speed and make plays at that speed. ........ Now, Kaner has to approve any trade. Where do you think he'd rather be with an older group in NYR, an even older group in NYI or that Jersey bunch?

Barzal is a nice player but IMO Jack Hughes will be a much much better player. Hughes has superstar ability/potential Barzal is a fine player but not in that realm. Plus it's only Barzal and Nelson, some very old forwards and their fine defense whereas Jersey is flush with highly skilled youth.

I think Kane would choose Jersey and as a fan I'd love to see him land there than anywhere else for not only this but the next 4ish yrs. A real shot at some cups and an exciting brand of hockey.

I don't think the Devils have the cap space to extend him. They have their own young free agents to resign. Honestly I wouldn't bring in Kane if I was them. Keep the youth movement going
- GPHawksfan

The cap may be a problem for extending Kane. But Tatar's 4.5 and Bernier's 4.1 is of the books next yr if they choose to move on from them. But indeed Bratt, Severson and Graves are due a raise. Boqvist and Bastian are also RFA's.

The Palat 6 mil per for 4 yrs might be the road block but somehow they were finding room for Johnny Hockey at 10 mil per so they did have a plan to add huge money somehow.

Can they make it work? Don't know but as a fan would love to see Kaner a Devil with that group and as the Devils thought with adding Gudreau a Kaner type might put em over the top.

Who is Wyatt?
- GPHawksfan

Duh. Meant Kaiser, Wyatt Kaiser.

Ek has yet to mention Kane to the Devils so it could happen.

Since the team will be spending a few days in the NYC metro area maybe Kane will look at some condos, find a good pediatrician and interview some nanny candidates. On 2nd thought scratch the nanny interviews.

The cap may be a problem for extending Kane. But Tatar's 4.5 and Bernier's 4.1 is of the books next yr if they choose to move on from them. But indeed Bratt, Severson and Graves are due a raise. Boqvist and Bastian are also RFA's.

The Palat 6 mil per for 4 yrs might be the road block but somehow they were finding room for Johnny Hockey at 10 mil per so they did have a plan to add huge money somehow.

Can they make it work? Don't know but as a fan would love to see Kaner a Devil with that group and as the Devils thought with adding Gudreau a Kaner type might put em over the top.
- Mr Ricochet

Sorokin is 27, their top 4 D are 28, 28, 22, and 22, beauvilliar is 25, Wahlstrom is 22, and they have the cap space to sign Kane without having to ship out anyone consequential. They are not exactly the 1966 Maple Leafs as far as age.

I have seen the Devils. They are playing fantastic hockey, and Ruff has them playing his brand of up tempo hockey. i am not that enthralled with their goaltending and defense, especially the left side.

Sorokin is 27, their top 4 D are 28, 28, 22, and 22, beauvilliar is 25, Wahlstrom is 22, and they have the cap space to sign Kane without having to ship out anyone consequential. They are not exactly the 1966 Maple Leafs as far as age.

I have seen the Devils. They are playing fantastic hockey, and Ruff has them playing his brand of up tempo hockey. i am not that enthralled with their goaltending and defense, especially the left side.
- LAHawk

IMO Sorokin is the best goalie nobody talks about and I did mention NYI's fine defense but the forward group is old with little in the pipeline. Wahlstrom hasn't figured it out and same with Beauvallier. ..... As a rental sure Kaner fits but extending him?

If you argued for the same price NYJ might be better off adding Chychrun than Kaner you'd have a good argument IMO but that maniac GM in AZ wants to mutilate in a trade and as a result Chychrun is still a Coyote ..... As I mentioned Jersey is very good with few holes but like anyone in the cap era they have holes.

IMO Sorokin is the best goalie nobody talks about and I did mention NYI's fine defense but the forward group is old with little in the pipeline. Wahlstrom hasn't figured it out and same with Beauvallier. ..... As a rental sure Kaner fits but extending him?

If you argued for the same price NYJ might be better off adding Chychrun than Kaner you'd have a good argument IMO but that maniac GM in AZ wants to mutilate in a trade and as a result Chychrun is still a Coyote ..... As I mentioned Jersey is very good with few holes but like anyone in the cap era they have holes.
- Mr Ricochet

OK, then ask for the next 4 1st round picks (if they don't have a A++ prospect), unconditional of course.

Great draft to say the least.

As for the Hawks future, yes, building through the draft will take several years.
Look at the Cup winning teams from a decade ago.

Keith drafted 2002
Seabrook, Crawford, Buff 2003
Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer 2004
Hammer 2005
Toews 2006
Kane 2007

Finally reached the playoffs after the 2008-2009 season.

So has the current clock started in 2020 with Reichel, 2021 with Allan or 2022 with Korchinski, Nazar et al. ?
- boilermaker100

Good post. Of the CORE guys we see
Draft pick in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Basically, in 6 straight years at least one core guy was drafted and a couple very solid complimentary pieces.

The Sharp trade and Hossa signings added in. I give some credit on Brian Campbell deal.

Not every move made prior to 2010 Cup was brilliant, but enough were to bring the Hawks 3 Cups (along with some other ancillary moves along the way, adding Saad, Oduya, Shaw, Vermette--albeit one year too late on AV). The pick of Hammer was an incredible underrated draft pick, however, that overall was a pathetic draft. Still you land a stud shut down Top 4 who can play against anyone? Ill take it.

Great draft to say the least.

As for the Hawks future, yes, building through the draft will take several years.
Look at the Cup winning teams from a decade ago.

Keith drafted 2002
Seabrook, Crawford, Buff 2003
Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer 2004
Hammer 2005
Toews 2006
Kane 2007

Finally reached the playoffs after the 2008-2009 season.

So has the current clock started in 2020 with Reichel, 2021 with Allan or 2022 with Korchinski, Nazar et al. ?
- boilermaker100

Reichel 12th in scoring now in the AHL with 19 pts in 17 games. The Hogs must be pretty high scoring with 4 players in the top 16 scoring, Seney with 23 pts, Gust with 22 pts, Reichel and Philp with 18. As players get traded away, at some point some of these guys need to get the call-up.

Someone here was talking Phillips being decent, they're right based on the stats- 14 pts and a plus 16 in 17 games.