Question 2 of the day: I for one am not a fan of the new Hawks play by play team. At all. Very boring....Lots of Kane to Domi back to Kane.....I have to believe Chris is just a placeholder until they become good and if he becomes much better, great, but not a lot invested in Chris until that time

Question 2 of the day: I for one am not a fan of the new Hawks play by play team. At all. Very boring....Lots of Kane to Domi back to Kane.....I have to believe Chris is just a placeholder until they become good and if he becomes much better, great, but not a lot invested in Chris until that time
- glennjpawlak22

The Hawks have play by play? I normally just listen to music.

The Hawks have play by play? I normally just listen to music.
- Chunk

I know your not listening to Chelsea Dagger

Lots of good comments and post today good to see .
I think this rebuild continues with a youth 1st mentality for another two or three years before we start looking at FA to fill holes. After witnessing the greatest era of HAWKS hockey, I am fine with a rebuild. And am excited to see how the new young players coming our way turnout.

Lots of good comments and post today good to see .
I think this rebuild continues with a youth 1st mentality for another two or three years before we start looking at FA to fill holes. After witnessing the greatest era of HAWKS hockey, I am fine with a rebuild. And am excited to see how the new young players coming our way turnout.
- oldduffman

I'm really liking that Allan and Korchinski are playing as a pair in Seattle. Even though he's known as a defensive specialist, Allan has the eye to be aggressive offensively, and can skate pretty well.

Even though it is a bit weighted considering that he collected 6 pts over two games on Fri/Sat, Phillips has 14 pts in 17 games.

It's going to take some time with the forwards. I think that is where KD will be a bit more aggressive in trying to pry away more NHL ready talent from other teams.

Interesting that Dominic Basse has been on a bit of a tear this year at St. Cloud State. 6-1-0 with 0.948 and 1.29GAA with two shutouts.

I know your not listening to Chelsea Dagger
- glennjpawlak22

Nope, I play the Jock Jams CD from 1996

Once they obtain the players with all these draft picks, they can do the bolded. They have few, if any, real building blocks.
- mohel

100% agreed...I would say zero at this point.

I still think at some point Davidson will find a partner for Seth Jones as Jones will want out once 19/88 are long gone and this team is a bad for another 2-3 years minimum. Did it in Columbus, will 100% do it again.

Correct, but the rest of your post establishes that not having top picks and winning a Cup is more rare. It is FAR more common to draft a couple superstars near the top of the draft. Of course, you have to do a good job of adding real talent in other ways; but winning a Cup without those players is quite rare.
- mohel

Yes, drafting superstars is almost a requirement. Not many Cup winners without at least one if not multiple, STL may be the closest to win one without a true superstar.

Its nice to find the Pastarnaks later in the round(s), but looking at the Hawks draft history more recently did they really miss by much with their picks. While Dach has not lived up to #3 other than Zegras and maybe Seider, who was picked after that has Superstar written all over them. How about the Boqvist draft? what player in those drafts still on the boards makes them significantly better?

I'm really liking that Allan and Korchinski are playing as a pair in Seattle. Even though he's known as a defensive specialist, Allan has the eye to be aggressive offensively, and can skate pretty well.

Even though it is a bit weighted considering that he collected 6 pts over two games on Fri/Sat, Phillips has 14 pts in 17 games.

It's going to take some time with the forwards. I think that is where KD will be a bit more aggressive in trying to pry away more NHL ready talent from other teams.

Interesting that Dominic Basse has been on a bit of a tear this year at St. Cloud State. 6-1-0 with 0.948 and 1.29GAA with two shutouts.
- Chunk

I was somewhat surprised when Allan was drafted by the HAWKS. Although the more I learned of him and ability as a defensive D man the better I like him. If he has that part figured out, then any offence is gravy. I think those two are scheduled to play on team Canada also that will be great experience. Domminic numbers are impressive for any league. Could we have another Dominator. Exciting times thanks for the updates

Blackhawks CHL, USHL prospect update for 11/28: Samuel Savoie on a scoring binge

https://www.msn.com/en-us...a358643978590d034555e1191

Yes, drafting superstars is almost a requirement. Not many Cup winners without at least one if not multiple, STL may be the closest to win one without a true superstar.

Its nice to find the Pastarnaks later in the round(s), but looking at the Hawks draft history more recently did they really miss by much with their picks. While Dach has not lived up to #3 other than Zegras and maybe Seider, who was picked after that has Superstar written all over them. How about the Boqvist draft? what player in those drafts still on the boards makes them significantly better?
- TheTrob

Well, when you put it (correctly, imo) like that.....it is even more amazing that it happened to build the 2009-2016 teams. It is far from given that it happens here again. Hopefully they build a team that can at least make a serious run.

Chunk, I agree. The more you watch this team, the more you come to realize just how poor Bowman and his NHL talent evaluators were. S. Jones is...fine. Not $9.5M fine, but he is ok. He is not a true #1D and never will be. He is average in his own end, and not dynamic enough on the offensive side to be considered anywhere near the caliber of Makar, Josi, Hedman, Burns, Doughty, Letang, OEL, etc., etc. No one is taking that salary and the Hawks are not gonna eat that much space for that much term. We are stuck with him.

The other D Bowman acquired are just....blah. C. Jones is just bad. I wanted to give McCabe the benefit of the doubt, but he too has just been mostly...bad. He skates like the grocery cart with the one bad wheel, and is a horrible passer. Murphy is a serviceable d-man, but not much more. The D that KD brough in are just placeholders.

As for forwards, you have some nice role players. I personally like Kurashev and Lafferty. I think Blackwell plays hard, I think Raddysh may stick around at a decent price. The rest are just nothing to get excited for or hope for anything other than what they currently are. 4th line/ AHL tweeners. Even Domi and Anathasiou. They are ok at their current $3M, but not worth much more $ or term investments.
- TheTrob

Wasn't Davidson on Bowman's staff?

Interesting that Dominic Basse has been on a bit of a tear this year at St. Cloud State. 6-1-0 with 0.948 and 1.29GAA with two shutouts.
- Chunk

Thought the Hawks took a nice swing on the 6ft 6in Basse in the 6th rd after watching him play in the USHL for a season. Kid is an 01 and transferred to St Cloud St from Colorado College and has done well, very well.

They drafted him in 2019 and still haven't signed him. Not sure but think they'll need to do so next yr or lose him to free agency. Could do a lot worse than having Soderblom, Commesso and Basse in the pipeline. https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/294746/dominic-basse

100% agreed...I would say zero at this point.

I still think at some point Davidson will find a partner for Seth Jones as Jones will want out once 19/88 are long gone and this team is a bad for another 2-3 years minimum. Did it in Columbus, will 100% do it again.
- SteveRain

Jones has $9.5 million reasons to stay here and Davidson has $68 million of cap space for 24-25. This management better figure out a way to be playing meaningful games toward the end of 24-25 with that much available space and essentially nobody in the system who will be making more than $975k at that point.

Wasn't Davidson on Bowman's staff?
- stevefrmglencoe

What’s your point? Is it not possible that Davidson has not only a completely different idea of how to run the organization, but also different motivations?

Well, when you put it (correctly, imo) like that.....it is even more amazing that it happened to build the 2009-2016 teams. It is far from given that it happens here again. Hopefully they build a team that can at least make a serious run.
- mohel

The Hawks drafted Ruutu in 2001. He was eventually dealt for Ladd who was a big part of the 2010 Cup.

Jones has $9.5 million reasons to stay here and Davidson has $68 million of cap space for 24-25. This management better figure out a way to be playing meaningful games toward the end of 24-25 with that much available space and essentially nobody in the system who will be making more than $975k at that point.
- stevefrmglencoe

Or what?

Jones has $9.5 million reasons to stay here and Davidson has $68 million of cap space for 24-25. This management better figure out a way to be playing meaningful games toward the end of 24-25 with that much available space and essentially nobody in the system who will be making more than $975k at that point.
- stevefrmglencoe

So if he were to be traded, he's still making the same amount of money no matter where he ends up unless I missed something.

Also, what's meaningful to you? The aforementioned Red Wings have played 6 seasons since their last playoff appearance. This is the first year they have a sniff of playoff contention but they're no shoe in. Yzerman spent a bunch of money in the offseason seemingly feeling it was time to push his chips in, but was it a good move?

The Hawks drafted Ruutu in 2001. He was eventually dealt for Ladd who was a big part of the 2010 Cup.
- stevefrmglencoe

huh?

What’s your point? Is it not possible that Davidson has not only a completely different idea of how to run the organization, but also different motivations?
- Chunk

My point was if you are going to say Bowman and his talent evaluators were that bad and then you take one of his guys and make him GM, there isn't a lot of success to point to. Davidson was in a customer service role in Ottawa and then assistant here. It isn't like the Knights who have McCrimmon and his 32 years of talent evaluation making the calls.

huh?
- mohel

I feel like people think that this teardown is somehow magically going to produce something in 2-3 years. They are going to need more than picks to turn this around.

I feel like people think that this teardown is somehow magically going to produce something in 2-3 years. They are going to need more than picks to turn this around.
- stevefrmglencoe

The guys you mentioned earlier...Hoss, Campbell and Richards were brought in to augment the talent that for the most part was already in place through the draft not the other way around.

A couple of good trades by Uncle Dale (Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd who you mentioned) helped too.

Team was still built largely through the draft...as pretty much all teams who've won the Cup in the Cap Era have been.

So if he were to be traded, he's still making the same amount of money no matter where he ends up unless I missed something.

Also, what's meaningful to you? The aforementioned Red Wings have played 6 seasons since their last playoff appearance. This is the first year they have a sniff of playoff contention but they're no shoe in. Yzerman spent a bunch of money in the offseason seemingly feeling it was time to push his chips in, but was it a good move?
- HawkintheD

I think Seth Jones signed here knowing that Kane and Toews were old and would not be here long. He got a million a year more than he was worth and got it all in signing bonus so it is protected from lockouts and pandemics. It is original 6. One of the best cities in the World. Only guessing but I think he guts it out.

Trob made the best point earlier in the blog about building a winner. Drafting is huge but it takes other things. FA's and good trades.

I don't want to turn into the guy who wrote about "no fighting no Cup" so I am going to back off a bit on Richardson and try to give him time.

I think the Davidson signing was insult to Hawk fans. When did Chicago become a kindergarden? There are men who have spent 30+ years in this game who know everything and everyone in the game. Davidson could have been their Assistant for 10 years and then the Hawks GM if they loved him that much. And I am not the only one who feels this way. The few people I know with NHL jobs are shocked the Hawks would place this guy in charge fo the team at this moment.

As for the Wings, Perron, Copp and Chairot are all proven NHL guys who are going to produce and be good examples. You don't see those guys gliding back to the bench with their heads down after someone misses them on a pass.

Lalonde has 20 years of coaching. He won Championships and had the biggest 1 year turn around in ECHL history. Trying to lay off Richardson but he never won as a head coach or assistant.

The guys you mentioned earlier...Hoss, Campbell and Richards were brought in to augment the talent that for the most part was already in place through the draft not the other way around.

A couple of good trades by Uncle Dale (Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd who you mentioned) helped too.

Team was still built largely through the draft...as pretty much all teams who've won the Cup in the Cap Era have been.
- HawkintheD

What your saying is true. There is a difference that wil need to be exploited. Back then I don't remember almost every team being at the Cap. With all the Cap space the Hawks have available in the near term, they have to get some players to lead by example. They also had a coach with a long resume. Scotty Bowman said that he always needed to bring his best against a Q coached team beceause he had his teams ready to play. I hope we can say that about Richardson over the next few years.

I feel like people think that this teardown is somehow magically going to produce something in 2-3 years. They are going to need more than picks to turn this around.
- stevefrmglencoe

I've not read anyone thinking close to this.