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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 27 @ 10:41 PM ET
Is it too early to speculate if Kane may stay back in NY in a trade with the Rags?
- powerenforcer
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Too early to speculate? Every other hockey blog speculates on when Kane gets traded.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Nov 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
Nice to see Kubalik not in a Hawks jersey. Probably won t finish with 60 points. Anyways, a total liability of a hockey player even when he does score. He will be sitting out the playoffs along with Dach, DeBrincat, and Strome and the current Hawks. So point out individual statistics, let me know how they make their team better.
- LAHawk


Detroit is 11-5-4 & in 3rd in the East & looking like a solid playoff team
Kubalik has more points than every Hawk including Kane by 5 points

Total Liability- Really?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
I am in my Jeff Dunham’s dummy Walter mood tonight.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 27 @ 10:54 PM ET
My hope is that TB does not make the playoffs so the Hawks can get the 15 or 16 pick in the draft. Probably won't happen but if Detroit and Montreal can continue to play well they will be in contention in the Atlantic. Hope FLA, NYR and WSH pick up the pace too. If Kubalik, Dach and Strome get into the playoffs, okay with me.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 27 @ 11:30 PM ET
Colliton is probably laughing his ass off.
stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

Nov 28 @ 7:40 AM ET
Does he need to tell you again that the team is in the tear-down part of a deep rebuild? Maybe he should remind us all on a weekly basis?
- mohel


Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Nov 28 @ 7:44 AM ET
Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.

- stevefrmglencoe


Why the goal is to be bad and get a top pick. Tallon got lucky and the ball bounced right and turned into Kane. The next couple of years are going to be painful. But if things do work out and the ball bounces our way the future looks much much brighter.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 8:21 AM ET
Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.

- stevefrmglencoe


Nice rant. Meaningless, but nice.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 28 @ 8:27 AM ET
Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.

- stevefrmglencoe


If we step into the time machine and go back to the time before the balls took a Blackhawk bounce which turned into Kane and they kind of lucked into Toews, how would you have gauged your level of enthusiasm for that team?

Are we really pining for the good old days of Dollar Bill and Pully?

Back then, they weren't even rebuilding. If they were they weren't acknowledging it.

I get it. It is disappointing that Davidson hasn't been able to flip the Hawks on-ice fortunes in his first year.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 28 @ 8:33 AM ET
Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.

- stevefrmglencoe


The stated goal when KD took over was complete overhaul of the roster.

The first moves were to trade anything that wasn't nailed down. If Kane, Toews and Jones didn't have NMC's they would already be on other teams.

Stop expecting them to care or be good. The entire roster is made up of spare parts from a Corvair. The PURPOSE of this team is to secure a top 5 (ideally top 3) pick in the draft.

They are doing exactly what management wants.

The defense is made up of players who mostly cannot complete a pass, or skate it out. That's by design. They have one or two guys that can actually keep up with Kane and none of them are on his line. That is by design. The goalies are slightly below average at best. That is by design.

Yes, as a fan is sucks to watch, but you have to bottom out first and they are doing that.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 8:56 AM ET
The stated goal when KD took over was complete overhaul of the roster.

The first moves were to trade anything that wasn't nailed down. If Kane, Toews and Jones didn't have NMC's they would already be on other teams.

Stop expecting them to care or be good. The entire roster is made up of spare parts from a Corvair. The PURPOSE of this team is to secure a top 5 (ideally top 3) pick in the draft.

They are doing exactly what management wants.

The defense is made up of players who mostly cannot complete a pass, or skate it out. That's by design. They have one or two guys that can actually keep up with Kane and none of them are on his line. That is by design. The goalies are slightly below average at best. That is by design.

Yes, as a fan is sucks to watch, but you have to bottom out first and they are doing that.

- Chunk


Some aren't designed to tolerate a rebuild. For them, I would point to Detroit as a best-case scenario. They have an experienced GM and are 3-5 years into their rebuild. It is gonna be awhile.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
Any news on Tinordi, why he was scratched last night?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 9:10 AM ET
Any news on Tinordi, why he was scratched last night?
- powerenforcer


Bettman.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 28 @ 9:14 AM ET
Bettman.
- mohel


That's my line!
stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

Nov 28 @ 9:20 AM ET
Some aren't designed to tolerate a rebuild. For them, I would point to Detroit as a best-case scenario. They have an experienced GM and are 3-5 years into their rebuild. It is gonna be awhile.
- mohel


The Hawks are going to have something along the lines of $30 million to spend next season. I hope there is someone inside the orgainzation that knows what they are doing.
stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

Nov 28 @ 9:21 AM ET
The stated goal when KD took over was complete overhaul of the roster.

The first moves were to trade anything that wasn't nailed down. If Kane, Toews and Jones didn't have NMC's they would already be on other teams.

Stop expecting them to care or be good. The entire roster is made up of spare parts from a Corvair. The PURPOSE of this team is to secure a top 5 (ideally top 3) pick in the draft.

They are doing exactly what management wants.

The defense is made up of players who mostly cannot complete a pass, or skate it out. That's by design. They have one or two guys that can actually keep up with Kane and none of them are on his line. That is by design. The goalies are slightly below average at best. That is by design.

Yes, as a fan is sucks to watch, but you have to bottom out first and they are doing that.

- Chunk


I expect them to care. Even if they have less talent, I expect the players to play as if their careers depend upon it and the coach to coach for wins.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 28 @ 9:34 AM ET
Amatuer hour on Madison. Rocky can't be let out in public after the Town Hall debacle. CEO has never been a CEO. First time GM thinks this is a video game. First time Coach acts like a babysitter, non chalant on the bench and in the press coference. TV broadcast sounds like a High School hockey team. They have a comedian between periods who isn't funny.

When Tallon was tanking here, he would go through 40 players and make 8 trades to keep it interesting and appear to try to manage.

- stevefrmglencoe


The Hawks currently have 12 players that did not start on the team last year. Forget about he obtained 3 #1 draft choices this year when they started the of-season with zero.

Once this trade deadline is over, you will probably see at a minimum 2-3 more that were on last years opening roster gone, he will probably like a lot more, but some are just untradeable. Yet you say he has not turned over the roster enough, but one paragraph above you claim he is running the franchise like a video game.

And is going through 40 players and 8 trades managing a club, or a sign of desperation?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 28 @ 9:39 AM ET
I expect them to care. Even if they have less talent, I expect the players to play as if their careers depend upon it and the coach to coach for wins.
- stevefrmglencoe


What if I told you that even if they did care, (which I'm sure a good portion of them do) they would not be much - if any - better? Because that is what is on this roster.

Also, just because a coach doesn't do what you think he should do, does not mean he is not a good coach or doesn't care.... otherwise, I'm guessing you would have his job.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Nov 28 @ 9:50 AM ET
The Hawks are going to have something along the lines of $30 million to spend next season. I hope there is someone inside the orgainzation that knows what they are doing.
- stevefrmglencoe


They’ve stated they’re in the midst of a rebuild and will do so largely through the draft.

My guess is they’ll use some of that money to sign a few guys to prove it deals who can be flipped at the deadline like AA and Max.

Some will be used to sign their own young players who’s deals will expire. Haven’t really checked on who that is.

Pretty sure at this stage of the rebuild, there won’t be any splash signings if that’s what you’re looking for.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 28 @ 9:54 AM ET
For those of you who want to think of the future instead of the past or present, here's a write up on some prospects on the U-18 NTDP.

(Wiz has Smith, Leonard, Moore, three of the guys mentioned, going 10,16,17. Hawks can pick one with the Tampa Bay pick when they miss the playoffs. LOL)

https://www.dailyfaceoff....under-18-u-s-ntdp-roster/
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
For those of you who want to think of the future instead of the past or present, here's a write up on some prospects on the U-18 NTDP.

(Wiz has Smith, Leonard, Moore, three of the guys mentioned, going 10,16,17. Hawks can pick one with the Tampa Bay pick when they miss the playoffs. LOL)

https://www.dailyfaceoff....under-18-u-s-ntdp-roster/

- boilermaker100


Thanks Boiler! This is the kind of info that makes getting through this season more interesting.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:27 AM ET
The Hawks are going to have something along the lines of $30 million to spend next season. I hope there is someone inside the orgainzation that knows what they are doing.
- stevefrmglencoe


Yeah, no....

UFA spending is not the way to get good.

Hopefully they use that money to get rentals to trade at next season's trade deadline, or to eat bad contracts in exchange for a piece of candy.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:29 AM ET
They’ve stated they’re in the midst of a rebuild and will do so largely through the draft.

My guess is they’ll use some of that money to sign a few guys to prove it deals who can be flipped at the deadline like AA and Max.

Some will be used to sign their own young players who’s deals will expire. Haven’t really checked on who that is.

Pretty sure at this stage of the rebuild, there won’t be any splash signings if that’s what you’re looking for.

- HawkintheD


Sorry, D, I didn't mean to copy off your paper.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
Is it too early to think of the 2024 draft? Next year at this time (hopefully we're all here) we might be thinking of the Hawks drafting in the top 5 again.

Here's a recent article on the 2024 draft class.

https://thehockeynews.com...igible-prospects-to-watch

fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Nov 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
Haven’t seen Rockford play but based on the statistics, the team defense is weak again. Appears again to be overhype if the prospects. They all seem to be on a par with C. Jones.

I can’t see Korchinski not playing in Chicago next year. Clarke is playing in LA in his 19th year, and the Kings have a HOF defenseman as its GM.

I think KD is keeping the D “prospects” in Rockford not to developed a winning culture, but knows they are fringe NHL ers at best

No red font

- LAHawk


I'd agree with this. They have a bunch of guys. Which is fine, sometimes they surprise you but there aren't any building blocks there.
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