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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:52 AM ET
Poop just got real with Rachel Doerrie and the Canucks, yo.

I must confess that other than the story about her being fired, I have no idea who she is.

- Atomic Wedgie



never heard of her
Google time I guess.


... ok, lots to unpack there. I guess the problem I have with what sounds like some pretty serious mental illness is that it makes me question her perspective on what happened. I am not sure anyone is ever going to get the whole actual story. I feel bad for her of course.

Apologies if I have offended anyone with that take.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:56 AM ET
What is the likelihood of a big trade in the NHL before xmas? Any guesses?
- Aaron_85

25% yes
75% no

my guess.

I think it's Rangers and Chicago for Kane
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 28 @ 9:57 AM ET
Edna Garrett
@WatchMyReview
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45m
Sheldon Keefe now has the 2nd best Point % in NHL HISTORY among coaches with 100+ games coached...

#firedubas #firekeefe

- gravyface

this is reg season or the playoffs??
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 28 @ 9:58 AM ET
It’s Keefe but it’s an easy job considering how good a job Dubas has done in putting a team together. No, wait
- Canada Cup


If they would fire management and get rid of their best players they would never lose.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
Edna Garrett
@WatchMyReview
·
45m
Sheldon Keefe now has the 2nd best Point % in NHL HISTORY among coaches with 100+ games coached...

#firedubas #firekeefe

- gravyface

0.421 winning % in playoffs
19th among current NHL coaches

Bednar
Cooper
DeBoer
Ruff
Montgomery
Bowness
Gallant
Sullivan
Sutter
Laviolette
Brind’amour
Woodcroft
McLellan
Cassidy
Boudreau
Torts
Berube
Maurice
Keefe
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
It's actually Trotz coaching but wearing a Keefe skin suit.
- Zezel

he's a skinwalker or he is using his mind power to control Keefe.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
this is reg season or the playoffs??
- 21peter

Combined
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
this is reg season or the playoffs??
- 21peter


We don't talk about playoffs.

It is worth wondering how come a team like the Leafs can be so successful in the regular season and an utter failure in the playoffs.

Sadly, the NHL will never address why they change the game so much in the playoffs. It is ridiculous to think that the only difference is that players are trying harder.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
Combined
- Canada Cup


Thank, I was wondering. No too surprising considering they are always losing in 7 games so it isn't like the playoff numbers are going to make a huge difference overall.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
None of us know what’s going on but I’ve seen various media types say if this kind of media contact is now a firing offence, half the front offices in the NHL better get their resumes in order. There may be issues but that sounds a little off.
- Canada Cup


That I'd agree with - but when you go to HR to file a complaint against the AGM, who is your boss, on what could theoretically be considered thin ice to begin with, there may be problems beyond the personal that aren't going to be rectified.

I've seen this happen with people I know - not THIS - but cases where both the manager and the employee go to HR about one another. It may not be right or fair, but I've never seen a case where there isn't a clear violation of the code of conduct by one party where HR took the side of the person lower in the organization - and I think I've seen one case where the two managed to hash it out and work together - although at arm's distance - but in most cases where termination didn't occur, the worker had to move in the organization to a different group. I've seen this in IT, Telecommunications, Accounting, Government . . . it's the same all over.

Maybe complaints like this by Rachel Doerrie can change some of that, but I sincerely doubt it. In fact in small circle organizations - like a sports team - I would imagine even less flexibility to allow for personal conflicts.

That all said, I go back to my original comment which was that this is my initial take on it - I don't know enough, and I'm not really set on any opinion about it right now.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
What's past is prologue. Keefe’s playoff winning percentage is about to increase, large.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:28 AM ET
Edna Garrett
@WatchMyReview
·
45m
Sheldon Keefe now has the 2nd best Point % in NHL HISTORY among coaches with 100+ games coached...

#firedubas #firekeefe

- gravyface

Now do his playoff record.

Edit: looks like some someones have already beaten me to the punch. Boo.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
this is reg season or the playoffs??
- 21peter


I don't know, but it's pretty impressive nonetheless.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
Thank, I was wondering. No too surprising considering they are always losing in 7 games so it isn't like the playoff numbers are going to make a huge difference overall.
- Aetherial

I think the listing was for regular season but when I looked at his numbers it didn’t seem like an 8-11 record was going to have a big statistical impact on his four seasons regular season winning %. I didn’t do the math mostly because I’m too lazy to search around for whoever was third with over 100 games (the site didn’t isolate)
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
We don't talk about playoffs.

It is worth wondering how come a team like the Leafs can be so successful in the regular season and an utter failure in the playoffs.

Sadly, the NHL will never address why they change the game so much in the playoffs. It is ridiculous to think that the only difference is that players are trying harder.

- Aetherial

QFT.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
Maybe kane.
Nothing really for the leafs imo.

- Fakepartofme

Florida has to trade a player that makes over 3M by Christmas and it can't be Hornqvist
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:48 AM ET
Now do his playoff record.

Edit: looks like some someones have already beaten me to the punch. Boo.

- mjones242


You know MOST of the current coaches also have a similarly poor first-three year record for playoff success.

Sullivan and Cooper had faster success than most (Sullivan winning in his third year, and Cooper making it to the finals in his third year), but some of the others:

Laviolette: .333
Torts: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until his 4th year - but he did win the cup in his 5th)
De Boer: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until the 4th year, and made them only once in his first 7 coaching)
Boudreau: .464
Sutter: .423
Cassidy: .333

I mean Bowness made the playoffs once in his first 9 years of coaching Ottawa, Boston and Winnipeg.

There's a lot of names of guys that a lot of people here would love to have as the Leafs head coach.

Barry Trotz didn't make the playoffs for his first 5 seasons, and didn't win a round until his 12th year coaching.

Paul Maurice didn't make the playoffs for his first 3 seasons and didn't win a round until his 7th year coaching.

It's easy to get mad at the coach, but all these guys who are supposedly so much better all started somewhere - and they didn't start as well.






Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 28 @ 10:54 AM ET
this is reg season or the playoffs??
- 21peter

I would assume reg season, Roger wouldn't post the playoffs percentage because it wouldnt be as good.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
Now do his playoff record.

Edit: looks like some someones have already beaten me to the punch. Boo.

- mjones242

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
I would assume reg season, Roger wouldn't post the playoffs percentage because it would be good.
- Fakepartofme

damn, I didn't see it was Rogers account

guy is f'n awesome!
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
Random stuff

AM will need to score 50 goals in 59 games to match his 60 from last season (probably unlikely)

Kallgren has seemed to play fine in the games Iv watched, but he is still only.898 sv%
would have thought it would be higher. but a 3rd stringer...so shrug

So far (yes still lots of time for bad stuff to happen), Murray/Samsonov has been a Dubas home run. at least the goalie experts that jumped all over him are silent...waiting in the bushes..spaget style.

With Muzzin, Brodie and Rielly out, it doesnt look like the Leafs are missing a beat. Credit to Dubas for some depth. and not panicking...shutting the haters up..but also...see above...spagett
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
If Pontus can rock the 4th line C position, go all in on a top 6 forward to either make AM's line better or JTs.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
You know MOST of the current coaches also have a similarly poor first-three year record for playoff success.

Sullivan and Cooper had faster success than most (Sullivan winning in his third year, and Cooper making it to the finals in his third year), but some of the others:

Laviolette: .333
Torts: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until his 4th year - but he did win the cup in his 5th)
De Boer: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until the 4th year, and made them only once in his first 7 coaching)
Boudreau: .464
Sutter: .423
Cassidy: .333

I mean Bowness made the playoffs once in his first 9 years of coaching Ottawa, Boston and Winnipeg.

There's a lot of names of guys that a lot of people here would love to have as the Leafs head coach.

Barry Trotz didn't make the playoffs for his first 5 seasons, and didn't win a round until his 12th year coaching.

Paul Maurice didn't make the playoffs for his first 3 seasons and didn't win a round until his 7th year coaching.

It's easy to get mad at the coach, but all these guys who are supposedly so much better all started somewhere - and they didn't start as well.

- Monkeypunk


I like regularly making the playoffs
I like that Matthews’ shooting % has nowhere to go but up
I like that Matthews lead the forwards in blocked shots and is third on the team in hits
I like that we have two good goalies
I like that the team is playing a strong defensive game
I like that the weak links on D are playing well and that there’s good depth
I like that the team has has an excellent defensive record and Brodie is due back
I like that there’s potentially a good chunk of cap space to spend later in the year
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
You know MOST of the current coaches also have a similarly poor first-three year record for playoff success.

Sullivan and Cooper had faster success than most (Sullivan winning in his third year, and Cooper making it to the finals in his third year), but some of the others:

Laviolette: .333
Torts: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until his 4th year - but he did win the cup in his 5th)
De Boer: 0 (didn't make the playoffs until the 4th year, and made them only once in his first 7 coaching)
Boudreau: .464
Sutter: .423
Cassidy: .333

I mean Bowness made the playoffs once in his first 9 years of coaching Ottawa, Boston and Winnipeg.

There's a lot of names of guys that a lot of people here would love to have as the Leafs head coach.

Barry Trotz didn't make the playoffs for his first 5 seasons, and didn't win a round until his 12th year coaching.

Paul Maurice didn't make the playoffs for his first 3 seasons and didn't win a round until his 7th year coaching.

It's easy to get mad at the coach, but all these guys who are supposedly so much better all started somewhere - and they didn't start as well.

- Monkeypunk

I think you've spent far too much time rebutting my flippant reply. (although maybe this was for the "but the playoffs!" commentariat in general)

For the record, I'm not a Keefe hater - I'm actually mostly ambivalent. I think I've criticized him in the past for galaxy braining some decisions and, perhaps, being oddly pro-line blender in the regular season and too rigid in the post-season. But I'm not married to that observation either.

It's easy to hindsight/reductively criticize a coach for early playoff exits. What do I know? 🤷
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Random stuff

AM will need to score 50 goals in 59 games to match his 60 from last season (probably unlikely)

Kallgren has seemed to play fine in the games Iv watched, but he is still only.898 sv%
would have thought it would be higher. but a 3rd stringer...so shrug

So far (yes still lots of time for bad stuff to happen), Murray/Samsonov has been a Dubas home run. at least the goalie experts that jumped all over him are silent...waiting in the bushes..spaget style.

With Muzzin, Brodie and Rielly out, it doesnt look like the Leafs are missing a beat. Credit to Dubas for some depth. and not panicking...shutting the haters up..but also...see above...spagett

- senstroll


Maybe the Leafs play good D like the stats have been saying for the most part the last few years.

Last year the goaltending absolutely sucked.
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