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rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:01 AM ET
What about the Phantoms coaches? Did Hextall allow the coach to hire his assistants? Or did Hextall do that for him?
- furio16

I wasn't there, I don't know.
I don't think Gordon was a bad AHL coach and Lappy has stayed on since. Not sure what the other coaches are doing now.

Edit: and for the record, my comment was more about Hakstol. The ongoing Hextall arguments bore me. He's been gone 4 years. To me, bashing Hextall just takes some of the heat of Fletcher.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:02 AM ET
All NHL players, which is what he said.
- MBFlyerfan

You care to explain HextallS plan? What was getting his team out of the playoff bubble? Ol Frosty, maybe Rubstov? All his good picks were already playing and it didn’t change a thing. Keep picking at #20?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:03 AM ET
All NHL players, which is what he said.
- MBFlyerfan


There's actually 2 more.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:04 AM ET
The Flyers record under Fletcher is now 124-125-37 (.498).
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
Friedman stated the obvious on his latest podcast, that the Flyers want to sign Anisimov but cannot because they are at 50 contracts. They could try waiving Bellows and see if there's another GM as dumb as Fletcher who will claim him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
You care to explain HextallS plan? What was getting his team out of the playoff bubble? Ol Frosty, maybe Rubstov? All his good picks were already playing and it didn’t change a thing. Keep picking at #20?
- ClaudeFather



No, I don't care to.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
There's actually 2 more.
- MJL

Not sure if undrafteds count but he did well to uncover Myers and Zamula, who I think we all agree should be playing over Seeler. Also, Kalynuk was a 7th rounder who's seen time in the NHL over the past 2 seasons but is probably more of a quad A kind of player.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
Disagree on all 3. Hextall brought in a number of veteran players that helped the team to compete while attempting to clear up the cap and build up the prospect base. He had his share of mistakes, but he was not terrible.
- MJL
He was average at best (a theme) in bringing in vet players. They did not help the team compete. The top end guys carried those teams.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
The Flyers record under Fletcher is now 124-125-37 (.498).
- Feanor


Stop with this garbage

They have a .433 WINNING %
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:12 AM ET
Stop with this garbage

They have a .433 WINNING %

- THE BLACK HAND



Yeah, technically the .498 is points %


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
Stop with this garbage

They have a .433 WINNING %

- THE BLACK HAND


This "garbage" is how the NHL has decided who makes the playoffs since 2005-06. If you have a problem with it, you should contact Gary Bettman.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
OK Ill bite.

Sanheim
Lindblom
NAK
Provorov
Konecny
Sandstrom
Hart
Allison
Lacynski

Frost
Cates
Farabee

bold indicates not on the team any more.

No editorializing, just naming names.

- MBFlyerfan
I do not consider them full time NHL players. If not for injuries they are in the AHL. Sandstrom , who I like, is also borderline. Frost and Cates we shall see though will count them for now.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Yeah, technically the .498 is points %
- MBFlyerfan


It's the only % listed on the NHL website, so why would I use something else? We're talking about the NHL, not the NBA or MLB.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:17 AM ET
Yeah, technically the .498 is points %
- MBFlyerfan

Its not technically.....

some games are worth 3 pts and some are worth 2. You cant assess quantitatively when there are different qualifying standards.

Now if the NHL went to a 3-2-1 format, then you could use Points% as an arguement, otherwise, as it stands, each game has a winner and a loser and they lose almost 6 out of 10 games
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
This "garbage" is how the NHL has decided who makes the playoffs since 2005-06. If you have a problem with it, you should contact Gary Bettman.
- Feanor

Im glad youre easily brainwashed
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
The Flyers record under Fletcher is now 124-125-37 (.498).
- Feanor


throw out the season he was hired.
his pts% by season
.645
.518
.372
.432 (through 22 games).

Not a good trend. And this will be 3rd consecutive year with no playoffs.


furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
There's actually 2 more.
- MJL
What are you using to qualify as an NHL player? 10 games or more? 82 games or more? Need some clarification and context.

Defend until the end. Will he get another job after he is fired from Pitt do you think?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
Its not technically.....

some games are worth 3 pts and some are worth 2. You cant assess quantitatively when there are different qualifying standards.

Now if the NHL went to a 3-2-1 format, then you could use Points% as an arguement, otherwise, as it stands, each game has a winner and a loser and they lose almost 6 out of 10 games

- THE BLACK HAND


A team that went 41-0-41 would win the President's Trophy with 123 points, so clearly losing in OT or a SO is not the same as losing in regulation. We've had this format for 17 years already.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
It's the only % listed on the NHL website, so why would I use something else? We're talking about the NHL, not the NBA or MLB.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50

- Feanor



What are you arguing about? The stat IS points %, not winning %.

That isn't some revelation. That is what it IS. It LITERALLY says it at the top of the stat.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
It's the only % listed on the NHL website, so why would I use something else? We're talking about the NHL, not the NBA or MLB.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50

- Feanor

I dont give AF what the NHL says.....If you want to use the NHL as a bastion of logic and doing things that make sense, then I dont know what to tell you

FOr you, as a analytics maven, this is embarrassing
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
Its not technically.....

some games are worth 3 pts and some are worth 2. You cant assess quantitatively when there are different qualifying standards.

Now if the NHL went to a 3-2-1 format, then you could use Points% as an arguement, otherwise, as it stands, each game has a winner and a loser and they lose almost 6 out of 10 games

- THE BLACK HAND



It LITERALLY says P% (points %)
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:21 AM ET
A team that went 41-0-41 would win the President's Trophy with 123 points, so clearly losing in OT or a SO is not the same as losing in regulation. We've had this format for 17 years already.
- Feanor

and that team would be 500
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
I dont give AF what the NHL says.
- THE BLACK HAND


Then (frank) off to a Sixers forum, weirdo. We're talking about the objectively poor performance of the Flyers in the NHL under Fletcher using the Team rankings since he was hired.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
and that team would be 500
- THE BLACK HAND


That team would be the #1 seed in the playoffs.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
It LITERALLY says P% (points %)
- MBFlyerfan

I know and I dont care.....its a joke and a prop by Gary to instill a false parity......Im not the guy to have his leg pissed on and thinks its rainig
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