I sure hope they aren't in the Karlsson deal that EK is talking about, that's a lot of salary to carry for 5 years.
- BetweenTheDots

We discussed this on our latest episode, say the sharks eat 50% and then the hawks eat 50% of that youre looking at just under 3 million through 26/27 season. this lines of up year four of the 3-5 year rebuild plan. So with the cap going up greatly as early as next season if the return to use the hawks cap space is right it might not be the worse idea.

i personally would rather them avoid taking on long term cap hits but just some food for thought

I sure hope they aren't in the Karlsson deal that EK is talking about, that's a lot of salary to carry for 5 years.
- BetweenTheDots

I don't think they are for the very reason you stated.

If the Leaves truly want Karlsson it's going to cost them a ton in picks, prospects and a couple of roster players since they are already at 50/50 contracts.

Figure the Sharks will retain some $ and are going to be asking for a 1st and some decent bodies back. Any 3rd team willing to retain $2/3 million for 5 years is going to be asking for "A" level or NHL ready prospects in return. I don't even know if they have that on the farm.

The Leaves are pretty screwed if they try to go the Karlsson route.

As of this morning the Hawks are a mere 2 pts ahead and sitting at third worst after ANA and OTT.

Let's give thanks....

Happy Thanksgiving Buzz Crowd!
- HawkintheD

Maybe Debrincat would come back ??????

I would NOT be surprised to see Kane leave at the deadline and then sign as an UFA in the summer for 2-3 years and see where they are at....could be 100% wrong on that guess, likely am, but if either would return after being dealt as an UFA I would bet heavily on 88 vs 19
- SteveRain

We could also see 88 or 19 play out the year because they don't want to move midseason and see them sign deals as UFA with other teams who might be willing to pay more. The Hawks might trade them and get assets, but we might still get nothing for them too. They are both coming on their career contracts where neither one took a hometown discount and we assume a lot of loyalty, but the proof will be in what they do.

We discussed this on our latest episode, say the sharks eat 50% and then the hawks eat 50% of that youre looking at just under 3 million through 26/27 season. this lines of up year four of the 3-5 year rebuild plan. So with the cap going up greatly as early as next season if the return to use the hawks cap space is right it might not be the worse idea.

i personally would rather them avoid taking on long term cap hits but just some food for thought
- Zach Jarom

Never never never should a GM trust what the league says about the future cap. Based on the math, i don't exactly remember the figure, the league cap has only increased 2+% per year? Less than the cost of living?

Tying up future money is a big mistake, it will offer less flexibility in the long run, unless it's a Hagel kind of deal.

I also want them to have the flexibility of eating half of Toews, Kane and another contract to accumulate draft picks.

Wow! That was embarrassing!

Mitchell sent down

RIP Borje Salming Aleha-ha-shalom

RIP Borje Salming Aleha-ha-shalom
- LAHawk

Doggone, that was fast

Wow! That was embarrassing!
- bjphawkfan

This team is pathetic!!

This team is pathetic!!
- Lauerg

Is that a surprise to you?

Doggone, that was fast
- 6628

Seeing Borge during the very recent Leafs pre-game event where they honored him and his career was especially hard for me having seen 2 immediate relatives succumb to that dreadful disease.
After seeing the progression of this disease through them it looked to me that Borge still had a bit of time left so I am surprised to see him go so soon after this Leafs event for him. Maybe he had a more aggressive form of it. I am glad the Leafs did that for him as he really seemed to enjoy the event.

Mitchell sent down
- LAHawk

Disappointing
Send c Jones elsewhere instead

As of this morning the Hawks are a mere 2 pts ahead and sitting at third worst after ANA and OTT.

Let's give thanks....

Happy Thanksgiving Buzz Crowd!
- HawkintheD

Obviously, they got the message late they weren't supposed to win.

On track to finish last & a shot at Bedard
✅
Kane will bring 3 solid players ✅
Toews - A second & a third

AA stays & Domi is 50/50 ✅

Is that a surprise to you?
- LAHawk

Sure seems that way.

On track to finish last & a shot at Bedard
✅
Kane will bring 3 solid players ✅
Toews - A second & a third

AA stays & Domi is 50/50 ✅
- Colbyboy

Kane will not be traded, then he'll walk as a UFA. ✅
Toews is traded for a 4th round pick ✅
AA is traded for a 5th round pick ✅
Domi is re-signed to a long-term contract ✅
The Hawks finish last but draft 3rd overall ✅

Great line Duffy. I may have to use it myself some day.

And instead of 3 stars of the game they should announce the 3 tankers of the game. Can you imagine the post game interview with Colby Cohen?
- boilermaker100

All yours Boiler need to have a little humor in these dark times Eh

A big banger on the backend is nice Duff, but such banger needs to be able to skate some.
- Angotti

Oh you are correct and the Hawks as of now cannot afford one that is insufficient at any aspect of the game as their entire defense is weak. Maybe in the future (near I hope ) as the Hawks build a stronger top 4 D core they can have a one dimensional big hitter goon type to play shelter minutes

Maybe Debrincat would come back ??????
- Hawkytalk

Korchinski + Chicago’s 2023 1st for DeBrincat

Again, spare goalie playing against the hawks.

Korchinski + Chicago’s 2023 1st for DeBrincat
- DarthKane

And he signs 8 x $13.

Soderblom looks good, those jerseys do not.

Was able to catch the Kelowna at Seattle WHL game on Wednesday. Some notes:

Wednesday, 11/23/22
Kelowna at Seattle WHL game on Nov.23: This started as a bit of a sloppy game and was a bit slower than expected the first two periods. Seattle was called for several penalties in the 2nd period. The third was better played, faster and more wide open. Seattle led 3-2 after 2 and finished with an empty net goal.

Notes on players:

Colton Dach, LW, Kelowna - did not play. He was serving a one-game suspension for a check to the head, got a major and a game misconduct in his last game. Kelowna returns to Seattle in a few weeks, may get a look at him then.

Andrew Cristall, LW, Kelowna, 2023 eligible (Wiz rank #18) - Cristall is a small player at 5-10 and 165. He carries the puck easily in open ice, and is focused on moving it forward by passing. He had a nice no-look pass to spring a teammate for a breakaway. As you might expect, although he is very skilled, he can be bumped off the puck and has trouble passing in crowded areas. He will need to get stronger, and learn to protect the puck especially along the boards to enable clean passes. He played LW on a line with Gabriel Szturc (see below). He has a nice shot that he elevates easily; against a bigger team like Seattle he struggled a little to find space to shoot. Had 4 PIM (a roughing minor and a high-sticking minor). Cristall has been on a hot streak before this game and is 5th in the WHL in points: 15G, 20A, 35pts in 19 games.

Gabriel Szturc, C/LW, Kelowna, 2023 eligible (Wiz #162) - Szturc (pronounced like - Sturtz) played C on the same line with Cristall. He is always engaged in the play and tries to carry the puck in. He is average size (5-10, 176) and was somewhat limited by the larger Seattle team. He was rubbed out on the boards several times, but wasn't deterred. Had two assists on the night and was named 3rd star. Stood up for a teammate in a dust-up around the net. High motor and always around the puck; faceoff percentage 9/17. Shows potential as a bottom-6 guy in higher leagues as he is always active and involved. Right now he is doing lots of scoring. Stats: 8G, 21A for 29 points in 18 games.

Caden Price, LD, Kelowna, 2023 eligible (Wiz #21) - Price has good size at 6-1, 181 and uses his size to engage along the boards. Price seemed sluggish to start the game, nearly getting beaten a couple of times, but improved as the game went along. He appeared at RD also, and seemed comfortable on either side. Took a hooking minor and Seattle scored on the power play. Good in 3rd period, carried the puck out a couple of times, had a big hit along the boards for a turnover, and showed nice defense on the penalty kill. Talent showed through after a slow start. Stats: 2G, 10A for 12 points in 18 games.

Seattle players:

Kevin Korchinski - Again looked very polished and always where he is supposed to be. Had a couple of rushes showing ability to maneuver and carry up ice, then trigger the play in the offensive zone. Pinched more than in the game on 11/1, got some chances but did not end up out of position. Nice assist on the power play. One bad giveaway, did not result in a goal. Started on LD with Nolan Allan at RD, but they were separated early.

Nolan Allan - Was second star of the game but had no stat line. Was very good on defense; as expected, he engaged physically but also was very good with using the stick in the defensive zone, and broke up several plays. He is confident in roaming a bit from his defensive position to make a play. Early in the game he seemed hesitant on passing and clearing the puck, but was much improved by the 3rd, and got into the rush several times. He is still new to the team so hesitating in some situations could be expected. Started at RD first pairing with Korchinski, but moved to LD later, looked comfortable at both.

Gracyn Sawchyn, F/C, 2023 eligible (Wiz #135) - Sawchyn had been playing 2C for Seattle but was moved up to 1RW. Has recently had a hot streak for points, now at 5G, 14A, 19 points in 18 games. His game is still as noted previously, always involved and engages physically, but in this game he carried the puck more and had some good rushes. Two shots on goal, and only 5 faceoffs, winning two.

Scott Retzlaff, G, 2023 eligible (Wiz #62) - Ratzlaff is average size (6-1, 170) and is mostly quiet in net. He stays low, does not roam much, and seems to be able to stay compact and square with the shooter. On the first goal, he got off balance. The second goal was on a deflection. As the game opened up in the third period, he came out of net to play the puck a little more and was efficient, moving quickly and then getting back to the net. Handled a series of penalty kills well in the 2nd.

Nico Myatovich, RW, 2023 eligible (Wiz #89) - Watching all the other players above caused me to not follow Myatovich much during this game. He always seems to score in the games that I attend, in this game he got the assist on the empty net goal to finish the game. His size (6-2, 181) is noticeable on the ice, and he seems to have a nose for the net. 7G, 6A, 13 points in 18 games. Will try to follow more closely in a future game.

Tij Iginla, C, 2024 eligible - Again, was not able to watch Iginla closely. He had a primary assist on Seattle's third goal. On one rush, he showed impressively smooth skating, and was able to maneuver quickly, avoiding Kelowna players easily and getting deep into the offensive zone. Will try to follow more closely in a future game. As a young player, he is not getting into every game. Stats: 1G, 5A, 6 points in 11 games. See 10/15 notes for more on Iginla.

And he signs 8 x $13.
- rpeters01

That’s a steep price for Korchinski but probably worth it.