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SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 26 @ 10:34 PM ET
Not sure how they would make that work then.
- Pegullaville

Adams has high value on a 1st round pick, i'd be shocked from what I was told if that's moved.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
Totally forgot about Simon Edvinsson last year.

Fact of the matter is, Yzerman the architect of the Lightning, showed up in Detroit and said we are going to burn it down to the studs and rebuild around a bevy of top 8 picks.

This is the first year he’s actively trying to win.

Yet I doubt Red Wings fans are chastising the guy the way we do to Adams.

And you know what, you better damn believe it was the right move too cause Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, and Kasper is a damn good group of U21 talent

- Pegullaville


When was Yzerman so incompetent that he ruined the boards of a practice rink?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 26 @ 10:37 PM ET
Is he the right player? he wants out of Arizona why come here ? almost the same situation except for the arena. They are building from the net out and starting with the Defense now with the goaltending looking good for the future. You may see a Center brought in soon.
- SABRES 89

I don't know if he is the right player. That's 4LD in your Top4. Yes he can play RD but he's better at LD.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 26 @ 10:41 PM ET
When was Yzerman so incompetent that he ruined the boards of a practice rink?
- Wetbandit1

following
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
I don't know if he is the right player. That's 4LD in your Top4. Yes he can play RD but he's better at LD.
- Buff36

it's already another lost season and we have not reached dec 1st yet
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 26 @ 10:50 PM ET
it's already another lost season and we have not reached dec 1st yet
- homiedclown

Be Nice
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 26 @ 10:56 PM ET
Adams has high value on a 1st round pick, i'd be shocked from what I was told if that's moved.
- SABRES 89


I’d be shocked if they moved a 2023 first as well even with a protection with how good this draft class is.

I’m not sure why he’d be hesitant to move a 2024 first though
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 26 @ 10:59 PM ET
it's already another lost season and we have not reached dec 1st yet
- homiedclown

Only in Buffalo is “we’re not trying to win this year” worn with a badge of honor
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 26 @ 11:03 PM ET
I’d be shocked if they moved a 2023 first as well even with a protection with how good this draft class is.

I’m not sure why he’d be hesitant to move a 2024 first though

- Pegullaville

After the top 10 it's the same as any other draft. I don't know if Chychrun is that player but there shouldn't be a hesitation to use it on such player. You can only have so many prospects.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 26 @ 11:16 PM ET
After the top 10 it's the same as any other draft. I don't know if Chychrun is that player but there shouldn't be a hesitation to use it on such player. You can only have so many prospects.
- Buff36


I wouldn't give up a future 1st for 2 more years of him right now.

Need to find a way to make a hockey trade, and not just deal with futures or future considerations.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 26 @ 11:59 PM ET
Is grit considered at the same level on this board as Tage is a bad Center who only scores some points, and Quinn is a terrible skater?
- kingcong39


Tage is actually a bad center and Quinn is slow. Both are correct.

I’m not calling tage a bad player. I’m just saying he’s not a great center. You know the center position where he can’t win face offs and other duties at the CENTER position.

And Quinn is like Reinhart. Needs to work on his skating big time and get faster. He needs nhl games played and off ice summers to figure it out
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 26 @ 11:59 PM ET
Only in Buffalo is “we’re not trying to win this year” worn with a badge of honor
- sbroads24


We have the youngest team in the nhl.

That slogan fits
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Nov 27 @ 12:24 AM ET
Tage is actually a bad center and Quinn is slow. Both are correct.

I’m not calling tage a bad player. I’m just saying he’s not a great center. You know the center position where he can’t win face offs and other duties at the CENTER position.

And Quinn is like Reinhart. Needs to work on his skating big time and get faster. He needs nhl games played and off ice summers to figure it out

- Sabretooth9


I think they're fine with Tage's so-called deficiencies in exchange for 90 or more points. But, but, his faceoffs man...
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 27 @ 12:34 AM ET
I think they're fine with Tage's so-called deficiencies in exchange for 90 or more points. But, but, his faceoffs man...

- joevthree


You aren’t getting my point.

Not saying tage sucks. I’m saying if we had a good team. He would be on the wing
Wetbandit1
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Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 27 @ 12:59 AM ET
Tage is actually a bad center and Quinn is slow. Both are correct.

I’m not calling tage a bad player. I’m just saying he’s not a great center. You know the center position where he can’t win face offs and other duties at the CENTER position.

And Quinn is like Reinhart. Needs to work on his skating big time and get faster. He needs nhl games played and off ice summers to figure it out

- Sabretooth9


What, bad at faceoffs like McKinnon, Eichel, or Barzal? Cause those are some pretty good centers.

McDavid finally figured them out last year too

Pettersson sucks at them too
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 27 @ 1:04 AM ET
What, bad at faceoffs like McKinnon, Eichel, or Barzal? Cause those are some pretty good centers.

McDavid finally figured them out last year too

Pettersson sucks at them too

- Wetbandit1


It’s more than just faceoffs. On a good team he would be a winger

Again. I am not saying he sucks. You are the 2nd person twisting my words to fit a narrative.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 27 @ 2:35 AM ET
It’s more than just faceoffs. On a good team he would be a winger

Again. I am not saying he sucks. You are the 2nd person twisting my words to fit a narrative.

- Sabretooth9


What "other duties" do centers have that others don't?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 27 @ 4:06 AM ET
Who did they want? We can give them grit. Casey Fitzgerald +++. Grit is considered elite skill here on this message board
- Sabretooth9


🤣🤣🤣 good post
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 27 @ 4:11 AM ET
Only in Buffalo is “we’re not trying to win this year” worn with a badge of honor
- sbroads24


Except NO ONE does that
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 27 @ 4:18 AM ET
It’s more than just faceoffs. On a good team he would be a winger

Again. I am not saying he sucks. You are the 2nd person twisting my words to fit a narrative.

- Sabretooth9


Welcome to hockeybuzz
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 27 @ 4:21 AM ET
What "other duties" do centers have that others don't?
- Wetbandit1


For one thing,
the defensive zone duties are wildly different for Centers & Wingers

But u know a lot about hockey (🤣🤣🤣),
so u were probably aware of that….

Hmmmmm
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Nov 27 @ 5:02 AM ET
For one thing,
the defensive zone duties are wildly different for Centers & Wingers

But u know a lot about hockey (🤣🤣🤣),
so u were probably aware of that….

Hmmmmm

- jdfitz77


I have heard Don Granato and several players say, "the first forward back into the zone is the center." Now, off a defensive zone draw this does not apply, but the top line isnt there for defensive zone faceoffs most of the night. In the Sabres system, it's not wildly different, that's why Don wants so many forwards to play both C and W.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 27 @ 5:54 AM ET
I have heard Don Granato and several players say, "the first forward back into the zone is the center." Now, off a defensive zone draw this does not apply, but the top line isnt there for defensive zone faceoffs most of the night. In the Sabres system, it's not wildly different, that's why Don wants so many forwards to play both C and W.
- lacaprup


That’s true of just about any team
Of course a winger won’t leave the net front uncovered if the Center isn’t back yet,
But once everyone does get back into the zone, you’ll generally see guys reset into their positions
It’s obviously fluid

But the point is that the “Center” has different responsibilities in the defensive zone
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 27 @ 6:49 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/655294
A lot, but a interesting idea, and it really doesn't even put a dent in are system.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 27 @ 8:23 AM ET
Only in Buffalo is “we’re not trying to win this year” worn with a badge of honor
- sbroads24
hand out more extensions
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