Why not Krebs and Casey packaged? Arizona might bite.

I have more faith in Casey than Krebs. Krebs is going backwards.
- sabresfan69

krebs buried most of the year has more even strength points than casey this season , 3 vs 2

if casey, krebs, and joker gets it done, with maybe a 2nd I am fine shipping them both out

Here are the two trade proposals for Chychrun from the Expected Buffalo crew:

2023 protected 1st (Sabres keep it if they miss the playoffs, and Arizona gets the 2024 1st unprotected), Olofsson, Noah Ostlund

OR

2023 protected 1st (Sabres keep it if they miss the playoffs, and Arizona gets the 2024 1st unprotected), one of the Sabres 2023 2nd round picks, Jokiharju, rights to Ryan Johnson
- kingcong39

They are not even close. Someone is playing here.

Bills inactives vs. Browns: CB Kaiir Elam (ankle), DE Greg Rousseau (high ankle sprain), LB Tremaine Edmunds (groin/heel), CB Tre'Davious White, TE Tommy Sweeney, LB A.J. Klein, OL Justin Murray. Safety Jordan Poyer is active after missing the last two games with an elbow injury.

krebs buried most of the year has more even strength points than casey this season , 3 vs 2

if casey, krebs, and joker gets it done, with maybe a 2nd I am fine shipping them both out
- homiedclown

Unfortunately I don't see Adams making the move. He is more like Botterill than people know.

Here are the two trade proposals for Chychrun from the Expected Buffalo crew:

2023 protected 1st (Sabres keep it if they miss the playoffs, and Arizona gets the 2024 1st unprotected), Olofsson, Noah Ostlund

OR

2023 protected 1st (Sabres keep it if they miss the playoffs, and Arizona gets the 2024 1st unprotected), one of the Sabres 2023 2nd round picks, Jokiharju, rights to Ryan Johnson
- kingcong39

Expected Buffalo has the worst takes on the Sabres outside of Kevyn Adams. Those two offers wouldn't touch Chychrun.

"The rights to Johnson "

Rofl

Unfortunately I don't see Adams making the move. .
- sabresfan69

agreed

Rate these in order

Pilut
Fitzgerald
Bryson
Clague

I see

Bryson
Clague
Pilut
Fitzgerald

I liked Clague's play, Pilut is standing around on too many goals and Fitzgerald is just awful

Well, dahlin and power seem to be a 50 minute pair currently.
- Boss34

The numbers and on ice results are indicating that Donnie is hurting the team's chances of winning by playing Dahlin and Power together, instead of separately, due to just how much the other 2 defense pairs are getting caved in every game.

Rate these in order

Pilut
Fitzgerald
Bryson
Clague

I see

Bryson
Clague
Pilut
Fitzgerald

I liked Clague's play, Pilut is standing around on too many goals and Fitzgerald is just awful
- sabresfan69

perfect world bryson is the 7th d man and maybe pilut as the extra

The numbers and on ice results are indicating that Donnie is hurting the team's chances of winning by playing Dahlin and Power together, instead of separately, due to just how much the other 2 defense pairs are getting caved in every game.
- kingcong39

the biggest issues on the other 4

joker, adams extended
bryson, adams extended
lyubushkin, adams targeted in free agency

if you want to throw out the 4th guy due to injury on samuelsson, that is fine


the 3 guys stinking up the ice when dahlin and power is on the bench, are guys adams brought in or retained

adams has been here a while now

agreed
- homiedclown

Which GM WOULD make the move? Regier? The Assistant GM of the Devils, Knights or Canes?

the biggest issues on the other 4

joker, adams extended
bryson, adams extended
lyubushkin, adams targeted in free agency

if you want to throw out the 4th guy due to injury on samuelsson, that is fine


the 3 guys stinking up the ice when dahlin and power is on the bench, are guys adams brought in or retained

adams has been here a while now
- homiedclown

Power isn't strong enough to carry the load either. When Power is with Bryson, Joker or Pilut its still a trainwreck.

Adams wont get off his hands and do something. They preach patience like Botts. All the while destroying morale.

Expected Buffalo has the worst takes on the Sabres outside of Kevyn Adams. Those two offers wouldn't touch Chychrun.

"The rights to Johnson "

Rofl
- lacaprup

To have takes as bad as Adams, they wouldn't be advocating for any trade, right?

How much do you think Arizona is going to realistically get for Chychrun?

He's a quality defenseman, but he's not a star or superstar.

The first deal is a 1st round pick and another 1st round pick they just made in Ostlund.

If you believe they'll get the equivalent of 3 1st round picks for Chychrun, why hasn't the deal happened already?

To have takes as bad as Adams, they wouldn't be advocating for any trade, right?

How much do you think Arizona is going to realistically get for Chychrun?

He's a quality defenseman, but he's not a star or superstar.

The first deal is a 1st round pick and another 1st round pick they just made in Ostlund.

If you believe they'll get the equivalent of 3 1st round picks for Chychrun, why hasn't the deal happened already?
- kingcong39

Chychrun also is often injured and only plays around 65 games.

Not selling the farm for that.

I don’t want to ship him out. I wish he would play with some more of the intensity and drive we saw earlier.
I simply think we will get the door slammed in our face when KA (if) starts looking for the pieces we need to be competitive, and we’re only offering the garbage that’s not successful here in return. Nothing against Tuch, just know teams won’t ask for Joker or Olofsson in return for a top 4 D
- lulags

The cost is likely going to involve a 1st round pick and one of the prospects, before they're suspects, meaning one of the forwards they just selected in the first round last season, or one of Peterka or Quinn.

Chychrun also is often injured and only plays around 65 games.

Not selling the farm for that.
- sabresfan69

I get people in S FL clamoring for the kid that started as a junior Panther, but I really don’t get all of the hype around him. Admittedly, I haven’t seen him play all that much, but I just don’t see him being worth what the doggies want for him.

Chychrun also is often injured and only plays around 65 games.

Not selling the farm for that.
- sabresfan69

Every team knows the issues with Chychrun as a player.

It's why no team made the deal for the supposed ask of 3 or 4 1st round equivalent picks.

The Sabres deal of a 1st round pick and Ostlund is closer than people think.

Chychrun's contract status is also a factor for any team acquiring him.

The numbers and on ice results are indicating that Donnie is hurting the team's chances of winning by playing Dahlin and Power together, instead of separately, due to just how much the other 2 defense pairs are getting caved in every game.
- kingcong39

They really miss samuelsson.

You gotta admit, that pairing of power and dahlin needs to be developed. Needs a look regardless of results in a rebuild season.

They are the only 2 " offensive " defenseman.

I agree, splitting them would help right now

I get people in S FL clamoring for the kid that started as a junior Panther, but I really don’t get all of the hype around him. Admittedly, I haven’t seen him play all that much, but I just don’t see him being worth what the doggies want for him.
- Ratsreign

The bold is why no team has traded for him yet.

The Arizona ask is way overboard, but that's what they're supposed to do.

You don't start low when negotiating a sale. You start stupidly high, and work downward from there.

They really miss samuelsson.

You gotta admit, that pairing of power and dahlin needs to be developed. Needs a look regardless of results in a rebuild season.

They are the only 2 " offensive " defenseman.

I agree, splitting them would help right now
- Boss34

Dahlin and Power playing 50 minutes of the game is greater than Dahlin and Power playing 25 minutes of the game, which is what's happening now.

Pairing them is a bad idea IMO.

The bold is why no team has traded for him yet.

The Arizona ask is way overboard, but that's what they're supposed to do.

You don't start low when negotiating a sale. You start stupidly high, and work downward from there.
- kingcong39

20-21 season Chychrun played in every game and was literally one of the best 8 to 10 d men in the game that year

since then he has played half of their games


if a team overpays it's for the 2020-21 version, not the current version of him


I could go either way as I firmly believe at some point we need to make a few 2 or 3 for 1 trades to get the best player in the trade

Every team knows the issues with Chychrun as a player.

It's why no team made the deal for the supposed ask of 3 or 4 1st round equivalent picks.

The Sabres deal of a 1st round pick and Ostlund is closer than people think.

Chychrun's contract status is also a factor for any team acquiring him.
- kingcong39

I wasn't in the rooms to know that the asking price was 4 1st rounders.

You were?

EDIT: I guess you weren't
https://nhltradetalk.com/...price-for-jakob-chychrun/

young player, high end prospect and 1st. That was the initial asking price.

Dahlin and Power playing 50 minutes of the game is greater than Dahlin and Power playing 25 minutes of the game, which is what's happening now.

Pairing them is a bad idea IMO.
- kingcong39

the only logic to play them together is they have zero faith in any of the other 4 playing 18 minutes even strength a night

only other option is to split 2 guys with dahlin and the other 2 with power

coach has had many weeks to prepare for the current situation and this is the best he has

give him another extension and a participation trophy

Watching Jost highlights. Scrappy player. Seems to have a nose for goals around the net. Might be. Decent addition

pekar got a point in his second game for rochester last night