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Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 7:57 PM ET
That's not a penalty. It was a good hit by Stutzle.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 16 @ 7:59 PM ET
That's not a penalty. It was a good hit by Stutzle.
- Whatisavailable

soccer refs have got nothing on nhl refs, worst officiating of any sport
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 7:59 PM ET
the level of ass kissing by the SN announcers is unreal..coaching not the problem...forsberg is long term #1 for OTT, idk if they pretenting to be morons or just are morons
- Mithos

Their jobs depend on maintaining a good working relationship with management so I guess they fit both of those options.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:02 PM ET
Eric Karlsson. No!!!!!!!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:07 PM ET
Eric Karlsson. No!!!!!!!
- spatso


they are seriously ok (the SN analysts) with a last placed team giving up their 1st round pick for a 32 YO Dman know for his offense, with only so so defense making 11.5M.. they are freaking morons
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:14 PM ET
Karlsson rumours are strange but somewhat intriguing if you can use Norris as a big piece while having San Jose eat some salary and somehow not use your 2023 1st rounder.

Probably not much to the speculation though and Karlsson is playing at a rate that isn't sustainable and has regressed over the last couple of seasons.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:15 PM ET
Missed most of the 1st period but the Sanderson highlight package looked good. Doesn't seem out of place with the increased ice time overall the last couple of games.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:29 PM ET
seems sens players forgot how to keep their stick on the ice...
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
Man these guys are determined to lose.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:31 PM ET
Karlsson rumours are strange but somewhat intriguing if you can use Norris as a big piece while having San Jose eat some salary and somehow not use your 2023 1st rounder.

Probably not much to the speculation though and Karlsson is playing at a rate that isn't sustainable and has regressed over the last couple of seasons.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

You can't be serious. You want to even give up Norris?
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:43 PM ET
Nice pressure. It's like they woke up all of a sudden. Nice goal by Tkachuk.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:48 PM ET
You can't be serious. You want to even give up Norris?
- Whatisavailable

This is a rumour site. Might as well discuss the rumour.

Define "want to give up". In any Karlsson trade, as far fetched as it may be, salary movement will need to happen. You don't want to give up Norris but you have to evaluate what would potentially make it work. I made a stab.

Do I want Karlsson back in a Sens jersey? Sure. Why not. He was one of the most polarizing players in franchise history and is playing great right now. It's a nice fantasy.

Do I think it's realistic, smart, or viable? Not in the slightest. His level of play is not sustainable and his last couple of season, he has shown regression.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:49 PM ET
Nice pressure. It's like they woke up all of a sudden. Nice goal by Tkachuk.
- Whatisavailable


But...as soon as they score, they let up.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:51 PM ET
Who is manning the steering wheel is exactly right?
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:51 PM ET
Who is manning the steering wheel is exactly right?
- Whatisavailable

the sens bus has no driver
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 8:58 PM ET
This is a rumour site. Might as well discuss the rumour.

Define "want to give up". In any Karlsson trade, as far fetched as it may be, salary movement will need to happen. You don't want to give up Norris but you have to evaluate what would potentially make it work. I made a stab.

Do I want Karlsson back in a Sens jersey? Sure. Why not. He was one of the most polarizing players in franchise history and is playing great right now. It's a nice fantasy.

Do I think it's realistic, smart, or viable? Not in the slightest. His level of play is not sustainable and his last couple of season, he has shown regression.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Thank god! You had me worried there for a bit.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
Who is manning the steering wheel is exactly right?
- Whatisavailable


Lots of talking heads want to blame coaching. But you will notice how all the commentators who have actually played the game (Methot, Galley) are pretty strong in saying it has nothing to do with coaching.

I don't think it really matters. Unlikely Dorion or DJ survives ownership change. Just the way it is. New owner always wants his own guy as GM. First job of GM is the name the head coach.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 9:11 PM ET
Lots of talking heads want to blame coaching. But you will notice how all the commentators who have actually played the game (Methot, Galley) are pretty strong in saying it has nothing to do with coaching.

I don't think it really matters. Unlikely Dorion or DJ survives ownership change. Just the way it is. New owner always wants his own guy as GM. First job of GM is the name the head coach.

- spatso

OK. Just a question about one little thing. Do you think the coach had anything to do with the change that resulted in that 2 on 0 break?
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 16 @ 9:16 PM ET
Thank god! You had me worried there for a bit.
- Whatisavailable

I was close to suggesting Chabot for Karlsson straight up.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
I was close to suggesting Chabot for Karlsson straight up.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0



Problem with any consideration of Karlsson is the question of term. Most of the Sens young guys are still 3 to 4 years away from hitting peak performance levels. Love Karlsson. But, I fear, he will not age well.


Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
I was close to suggesting Chabot for Karlsson straight up.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I bet you there would be people thinking that's a great idea and it would just snowball.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 16 @ 9:42 PM ET
It's a miracle! DeBrincat buries one of his point blank, 10 bell, grade A chances.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Good game. They have been playing well. Perhaps the hockey Gods will begin to reward them!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM ET
Sens 6 points out of playoff spot. Not an entirely lost cause.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 16 @ 9:55 PM ET
Sort of an ugly win but when you are struggling, you will take it.

I feel Sanderson played the best game by a d-man this year for the Sens. He was everywhere and a force. Very impressive.
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