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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
The conversation for you is never over. No wonder you end up in street brawls.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Haven't been in a street brawl since the 90's you twit.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:22 PM ET
The amount of actual tradable assets that will help the club, is very few. Horvat and Pettersson are probably the only two assets the organization has that would bring any type of nice return, and Pettersson isn't getting traded any time soon IMO.
- Pacificgem


Hughes... Demko...
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
They likely will just put Bruce out of his misery within these next few weeks, but if the goal is to truly make major changes and you want to sell off players, I'd bring in another offensive minded coach to keep the people totals inflated for trade value.



I mean look at these 82 game paces despite most of these guys playing like poop:


Horvat = 96 Points
Pettersson = 96 points
Hughes = 88 points
Miller = 77 points
Boeser = 67 points
Kuzmenko = 56 points
Mikheyev = 47 points
Garland = 46 points
OEL = 34 points


The pond hockey they're playing should help inflate some of these guys' values

- Nucker101

I read this morning this club is currently outpacing the 2011 team for scoring...can you believe that. If they could only defend.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
Hughes... Demko...

- boonerbuck



I'd start with those 4...start with the cream of the crop, no one's lining up for Tanner Pearson and OEL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
I read this morning this club is currently outpacing the 2011 team for scoring...can you believe that. If they could only defend.
- Pacificgem



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
They likely will just put Bruce out of his misery within these next few weeks, but if the goal is to truly make major changes and you want to sell off players, I'd bring in another offensive minded coach to keep the people totals inflated for trade value.



I mean look at these 82 game paces despite most of these guys playing like poop:


Horvat = 96 Points
Pettersson = 96 points
Hughes = 88 points
Miller = 77 points
Boeser = 67 points
Kuzmenko = 56 points
Mikheyev = 47 points
Garland = 46 points
OEL = 34 points


The pond hockey they're playing should help inflate some of these guys' values

- Nucker101


You get Yeo as BB's replacement. It was probably their safety net all along.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
I give Lordy credit for sticking to his guns, he is a good fan. He is pretty much the last man standing sticking with the notion that it will turn around.

I switched this year after being optimistic and seeing the same results. It made me come to the conclusion that it is more than an on-ice talent issue because there is talent.

I think it does need to start over from the bare bones, but I don't see the owner accepting that seeing he is making buckets of money. I am sure he would love a cup winner but more than that I think he wants to continue raking in the dough.

- VANTEL

I will say I was a little concerned when MNGT started swapping out 5 forwards and a few D men. We needed D and went out and got 5 forwards. After losing Richardi and Motte and a few others it's not surprising this club hasn't found chemistry. Boudreau had this club clicking last year but it was more of a different roster than I expected. Mostly in the bottom 6 and last pairing D.

The I told you so's are out I'm sure but anyone who says they saw this coming after what we saw last year after the coaching change is full of sh!t. Easy to say now...not so much pre season. Booner was one of the few that pointed out preseason inconsistencies that may spill into the season and here we are.

To me the 25 game mark is still where things may change or happen. I still think the WC is what they could shoot for but so many things from this point need to go right for them plus an insane amount of luck. This team can score we know we just need to get back to defending for 60 minutes and Demko will come around. Actually have a worse record now than the same time under Green the past year lol. If there is change room dissention as rumors suggest then solve it and get back to basic Hockey. I've been critical about Bo but am disappointed in JR's handling of his contract. I still maintain he was angry about it. But it's good to see him scoring. I just hope we don't lost Bo after 8 years but who knows? Maybe he is the one that wants out?

Either way, something big will happen if the club continues to slide. If you recall I was a Linden backer as well and was for his 'teardown' mentality at the time. But it was clear FA would never let it happen so Linden got chopped and Benning got the reigns. Here we are under new MNGT with more of the same. For now. lol.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 16 @ 3:27 PM ET
I read this morning this club is currently outpacing the 2011 team for scoring...can you believe that. If they could only defend.
- Pacificgem



Scoring league wide is way up these days too though. Back then a 2 goal lead was pretty much a lock for even mediocre teams.

Only 15 players were PPG or above that season.


44 players were PPG or above last season





NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
WTF are you talking about? I made a couple of posts yesterday and moved on. NYN has been posting non stop in 2 threads about it. Is that moving on? He even came back in today trying to drag me back into the conversation after pages of hockey talk had left the topic in the past. Why didnt he just leave it alone? Why don't you just leave it alone? All you guys need to do is shut the (frank) up and I'll go back to talking hockey.

Go whine to NYN.

- boonerbuck




I'm in Germany, so +9 hours from Vancouver. I was asleep, and continued the conversation when I got my day started this morning.

Holy hell you're a baby. Wah wah wah
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
I read this morning this club is currently outpacing the 2011 team for scoring...can you believe that. If they could only defend.
- Pacificgem


if there was any time to start trading players it would be right now. Except this management seems to want to handcuff themselves to players that have big point totals and move them when they don't.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 16 @ 3:30 PM ET
The level of stupidity here at times never ceases to amaze me! 🛁 🧂
- VanHockeyGuy


says the guy who likes to cause as much disruption as possible and then complains about that disruption.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 16 @ 3:33 PM ET
I will say I was a little concerned when MNGT started swapping out 5 forwards and a few D men. We needed D and went out and got 5 forwards. After losing Richardi and Motte and a few others it's not surprising this club hasn't found chemistry. Boudreau had this club clicking last year but it was more of a different roster than I expected. Mostly in the bottom 6 and last pairing D.

The I told you so's are out I'm sure but anyone who says they saw this coming after what we saw last year after the coaching change is full of sh!t. Easy to say now...not so much pre season. Booner was one of the few that pointed out preseason inconsistencies that may spill into the season and here we are.

To me the 25 game mark is still where things may change or happen. I still think the WC is what they could shoot for but so many things from this point need to go right for them plus an insane amount of luck. This team can score we know we just need to get back to defending for 60 minutes and Demko will come around. Actually have a worse record now than the same time under Green the past year lol. If there is change room dissention as rumors suggest then solve it and get back to basic Hockey. I've been critical about Bo but am disappointed in JR's handling of his contract. I still maintain he was angry about it. But it's good to see him scoring. I just hope we don't lost Bo after 8 years but who knows? Maybe he is the one that wants out?

Either way, something big will happen if the club continues to slide. If you recall I was a Linden backer as well and was for his 'teardown' mentality at the time. But it was clear FA would never let it happen so Linden got chopped and Benning got the reigns. Here we are under new MNGT with more of the same. For now. lol.

- LordHumungous


I think things will change next year.

OEL I believe is playing his last year. This is why I want to see Briesbois come in and play a regular shift. I think he can be consistent third pair on a Schenn like contract to counter the loss of 4 mil peak if OEL is bought out.

I also see Myers departing and not returning. Canucks should not be turning to Free Agency but rather use a big asset like Bo or Hughes to get a good Dman and draft like a motherfu@ker to fill the holes. No more Stillman or Dermott trades

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:37 PM ET


I'm in Germany, so +9 hours from Vancouver. I was asleep, and continued the conversation when I got my day started this morning.

Holy hell you're a baby. Wah wah wah

- NewYorkNuck


Once again you return to keep this going... and at least this time you admit to bringing it up again the next day after you slept.

Holy (frank). How does this baby narrative come from you? I left this conversation in the past... you didnt. Once shown you have fallen for a propaganda op, you then moved on to name calling. The calling card of every immature loser of a debate. Just stop posting about this. People are getting very sick of it. For 2 days you haven't been able to let go.

...and I'm the baby.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:37 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
Once again you return to keep this going... and at least this time you admit to bringing it up again the next day after you slept.

Holy (frank). How does this baby narrative come from you? I left this conversation in the past... you didnt. Once shown you have fallen for a propaganda op, you then moved on to name calling. The calling card of every immature loser of a debate. Just stop posting about this. People are getting very sick of it. For 2 days you haven't been able to let go.

...and I'm the baby.

- boonerbuck



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 3:45 PM ET

- Nucker101


I think this one was used by someone only a couple of days ago. I'm disappointed in you.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 16 @ 3:47 PM ET

- Nucker101

He just loves controversy, probably doesn’t know any different because he’s been dealing with it all his life and thinks it’s normal. Too proud to just walk away, it’s not in his nature. Which is why his brain is scrambled eggs and he retired at 35 from a head injury sustained while talking when he should’ve been listening.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
I think things will change next year.

OEL I believe is playing his last year. This is why I want to see Briesbois come in and play a regular shift. I think he can be consistent third pair on a Schenn like contract to counter the loss of 4 mil peak if OEL is bought out.

I also see Myers departing and not returning. Canucks should not be turning to Free Agency but rather use a big asset like Bo or Hughes to get a good Dman and draft like a motherfu@ker to fill the holes. No more Stillman or Dermott trades


- VANTEL


This idiot management team, and many fans, actually think Rathbone has earned a shot, and Brisebois, who has been solid in the organization doesn't get a real shot, because he only plays solid and doesn't have any eliteness, like the great Quinn Hughes.
Ffs, this team is doomed for another decade
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Nov 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Canucks sure score a lot win or lose. It’s either amassing value for trades. Or proving Coach should be fired for not organizing their D play.

So no firings no trades yet. All good. I guess they stay the course with each false hope win.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Nov 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
Ya, Rathbone the savior.

That was 15 million dollars of defensemen, sitting on the bench, for the final few minutes, because they can't play defense worth shit.

Hughes must go.

- Reubenkincade

I think stacked could be applied in the right perspective.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
Poor Brock Boeser!! #CavedIn

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 16 @ 4:06 PM ET
I think stacked could be applied in the right perspective.

- Shuswap Wap



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 16 @ 4:06 PM ET
This idiot management team, and many fans, actually think Rathbone has earned a shot, and Brisebois, who has been solid in the organization doesn't get a real shot, because he only plays solid and doesn't have any eliteness, like the great Quinn Hughes.
Ffs, this team is doomed for another decade

- Reubenkincade


Buffalo who has had multiple first and second overall picks and have torn down the team selling off best players lost to the sh1tty Canucks last night.

I don't know what the answer is, but you would think by now all the teams would know the solution.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 16 @ 4:06 PM ET
He just loves controversy, probably doesn’t know any different because he’s been dealing with it all his life and thinks it’s normal. Too proud to just walk away, it’s not in his nature. Which is why his brain is scrambled eggs and he retired at 35 from a head injury sustained while talking when he should’ve been listening.
- Pacificgem


Over and over you admit to making posts to create controversy. BTW, you are typing this with a mouth full of broken teeth... maybe you should have kept your trash talking mouth shut before it got shut for you.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
Over and over you admit to making posts to create controversy. BTW, you are typing this with a mouth full of broken teeth... maybe you should have kept your trash talking mouth shut before it got shut for you.

- boonerbuck

Hey, those are shiny new teeth, I'll have you know!
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