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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:54 AM ET
Escalators going up to the 300 level broke right before the anthems last night. Anyone else get caught in that? I swear we have to have the worst in-game experience in the league, night in and night out. I've only ever been to Toronto and Vegas for away games, but I have to imagine that only Arizona would be worse at this point.

Much of my frustration and overreaction comes from trudging down there night after night and dealing with nonsense like that. While the team is rebuilding the off-ice product should be a no-brainer, but it's like they don't even care. Jumbotron is pixelate some nights and the shot counter is gone on occasion. Escalators breaking down going back to last season and the same soap dispenser in one bathroom is broken going on two seasons now. Spilled beverages aren't cleaned up on the regular in the stands and there is a broken seat in the row behind me. The whole switching to smaller beer cups on busier nights is just scummy. I realize that a lot of this is on erie county and Delaware North, but do the Sabres not have any say in this whatsoever? They're okay with this standard? Do they even care? As pissed as I get that attendance is still poor, if I am being honest I can't blame people.

I realize that progress and growth aren't always linear and we are seeing some great things on the ice so far this season. Tage's transformation might be second in franchise history only to Hasek. Power looks to be ahead of where Dahlin was during his rookie season; he's going to be scary good. Speaking of Dahlin, he's finally put it all together. Cozens is turning into that pain in the ass 2-way center we knew he could be. Peterka is a keeper.

That being said, there are still 6 of the same guys on this team, we aren't physical or tough to play against and I can't stomach thinking that we're still 2-3 seasons away from being relevant again. We only have half a team at this point, so I don't know guys. For all those preaching patience, haven't we been patient enough?

- The_Inkwell



This is an excellent post. I'm assuming your a fellow sth, and it takes dedication to make most of the home games.

The jumbo tron should / could be the easiest upgrade
The outright dirty bathrooms , seats ect is an embarrassment.

The pegula's are aiming for a new stadium, that's why they havent fixed anything.

Either use taxpayers $ for a new stadium or a big money upgrade.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
Maybe your buddy didn't have accurate information?
- kingcong39


That is possible. I saw him at hockey Sunday night. (Men’s league) lol
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
The Avalanche won a cup in Mackinnon’s 9th season and we’re mostly irrelevant for the first 7 years.

How many years did it take for the Capitals to finally win one and they had Ovechkin and Backstrom for how long ?

How long did it take for the Lightning to get Stamkos and Hedman a ring ?

This whole 5 years to hardware thing is fundamentally flawed.

The leafs can’t get out of the first round of the playoffs yet they bottomed out and rebuilt as cleanly as one can possibly could.

- Pegullaville

Irrelevant, they were in the playoffs 5 of those other years to. A little different when you atleast see the playoffs occasionally instead of a team that hasn't sniffed it in over a decade and still has problems getting out of its own way
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
Dion pulled up in the goathead 🔥

https://twitter.com/TheCh...CsYpi2M0cltQ0TQX62HQ&s=19
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
This is an excellent post. I'm assuming your a fellow sth, and it takes dedication to make most of the home games.

The jumbo tron should / could be the easiest upgrade
The outright dirty bathrooms , seats ect is an embarrassment.

The pegula's are aiming for a new stadium, that's why they havent fixed anything.

Either use taxpayers $ for a new stadium or a big money upgrade.

- Boss34


Get the bills stadium approved and then the arena is next. Blame Erie county though. Not the pegulas. Erie county owns the arena and pegulas tried to buy it a few years ago
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Nov 13 @ 11:00 AM ET
The Avalanche won a cup in Mackinnon’s 9th season and we’re mostly irrelevant for the first 7 years.

How many years did it take for the Capitals to finally win one and they had Ovechkin and Backstrom for how long ?

How long did it take for the Lightning to get Stamkos and Hedman a ring ?

This whole 5 years to hardware thing is fundamentally flawed.

The leafs can’t get out of the first round of the playoffs yet they bottomed out amd rebuilt as good as one can possibly could.

- Pegullaville


How many years did each of those teams play in the playoffs before finally reaching promised land? We're still not to that part. The GM has nothing on his resume indicating he knows how to get to the next part, let alone the hardware part.

I'd trade with a Leaf fan any day. They've played meaningful games for years now. We've got RJ night, the Heritage classic, the two Vegas games.

I've no reason to expect we're going forward next season. Maybe we'll do a dead cat bounce like we did last year, but that'll only mean somewhere like 10th or 11th in the conference.

The fact that the patience crowd has now had the Conner Bedard name start falling into their posts of late shows how bankrupt that strategy is. Another teen idol savior when we have two on the roster already and had to trade one away. Keep chasing that dragon.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
How many years did each of those teams play in the playoffs before finally reaching promised land? We're still not to that part. The GM has nothing on his resume indicating he knows how to get to the next part, let alone the hardware part.

I'd trade with a Leaf fan any day. They've played meaningful games for years now. We've got RJ night, the Heritage classic, the two Vegas games.

I've no reason to expect we're going forward next season. Maybe we'll do a dead cat bounce like we did last year, but that'll only mean somewhere like 10th or 11th in the conference.

The fact that the patience crowd has now had the Conner Bedard name start falling into their posts of late shows how bankrupt that strategy is. Another teen idol savior when we have two on the roster already and had to trade one away. Keep chasing that dragon.

- lacaprup


You mean like Gabe Landeskog, Nathan Mackinnon, Cale Makar, Bowen Byram, and Mikko Rantenen ?

The only way the Sabres get Bedard is if they move up 10 spots in the lottery. They are too good a team to finish bottom 5 and unless injuries and goaltending ultimately bury them they shouldn’t finish bottom 10 either.

The Sabres finished ahead of the Devils last year for Christ sakes. Development isn’t linear, sometimes it can happen all at once.

If you watch every Sabres game and aren’t encouraged by the play of Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Power, Dahlin, and Tage then idk what to tell you. Not one player I just mentioned is anywhere near their peak either
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Get the bills stadium approved and then the arena is next. Blame Erie county though. Not the pegulas. Erie county owns the arena and pegulas tried to buy it a few years ago
- Sabretooth9


Good post, erie county should use some of the legal marijuana money to fix up the arena.

Maybe get the Senecas involved financially?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
Josh Allen active but no Tre White still
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
Ain't that the truth? And, that's with you assuming Quinn and Peterka make it, which is a major assumption. A 5 year plan means to me your carrying hardware at the end of the 5 years. We are going to end year 3 at the bottom of the Eastern Conference if changes are not made and nobody in the organization gives a poop.

And, then thay slap us in the face with the game presentation fit for a high school team. Kevin Adams and his staff are amateurs. It shows all over the organization.

- lacaprup


KA and Staff are Hockey Operatjons.
The Business side, including in-game experience falls under the President, who is MIA.

A 5 year plan, IMO does not mean it end in hardware. Nope. It is the start of regularly being in the PO's and contending during windows. Your expectations are incorrect, again IMO. You feel differently, fine...but Adam's has been honest, if you disagree with the Plan, that is on you, it doesn't make it wrong.

Quinn (21yo, 14 NHL gms) , Peterka (21yo, 14 NHL gms), Cozens(21yo, 135 gms), Power (20yo, 23 NHL gms), Samuelsson (22yo, 59 NHL gms) all seem to be headed in the right direction but require alot more development time to reach full potential. Dahlin (22yo, 291 NHL gms) and Tage (25yo, 238 NHLgms) are budding superstars (can't believe I'm writing that about TNT lol) developing before your eyes. That's 9 guys now playing pretty well, but to varying degrees.

Tuch (26), Okposo (34), Skinner (30), Olofsson (27) aren't carry their weight. These Vets are failing the team, especially the last 5 games...vet leadership, where?

Girgenson (28), Mitts (24yo, 210 NHL gms) and Asplund have solid defensive game skills , but also need to contribute more on the scoresheet.

Krebs (21yo, 74 NHL gms) should be showing considerably more. He needs to earn his way up from 4th Line time soon, and he doesn't look like it is coming quickly.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
Josh Allen active but no Tre White still
- Stripes77

Maybe Duke comes out and the Bills play the Wishbone
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
r-e-l-a-x

sabres are goodish. lost to bunch of good teams and one gross period against the coyotes
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
Good post, erie county should use some of the legal marijuana money to fix up the arena.

Maybe get the Senecas involved financially?

- Boss34


Yeah, I am all for blaming the pegulas for things but the area is not on them.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
Josh Allen active but no Tre White still
- Stripes77


And not warming up. I don’t get it. The bills being mysterious about his injury is baffling
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:09 PM ET
And not warming up. I don’t get it. The bills being mysterious about his injury is baffling
- Sabretooth9


its very cringe

too much money is on these games to be trolling with injury statuses

should not be allowed
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:11 PM ET
Tage and Olofsson are the only players we have with the ability to beat a goalie at any time. Dahlin needs a good screen, but he can make 10 shots a game for himself if he wants to.

There is not another gifted offensive player on the roster if Jeff Skinner is taking the night off as he has a dozen times this year already.

For a team with tons of small, "skilled" forwards we sure have a lot of guys who can't score on Madonna right now.

- lacaprup

Quinn and Mitts are. Quinn just struggling to get the space and time to score at the NHL level, mitts needs to drive the net more
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
KA and Staff are Hockey Operatjons.
The Business side, including in-game experience falls under the President, who is MIA.

A 5 year plan, IMO does not mean it end in hardware. Nope. It is the start of regularly being in the PO's and contending during windows. Your expectations are incorrect, again IMO. You feel differently, fine...but Adam's has been honest, if you disagree with the Plan, that is on you, it doesn't make it wrong.

Quinn (21yo, 14 NHL gms) , Peterka (21yo, 14 NHL gms), Cozens(21yo, 135 gms), Power (20yo, 23 NHL gms), Samuelsson (22yo, 59 NHL gms) all seem to be headed in the right direction but require alot more development time to reach full potential. Dahlin (22yo, 291 NHL gms) and Tage (25yo, 238 NHLgms) are budding superstars (can't believe I'm writing that about TNT lol) developing before your eyes. That's 9 guys now playing pretty well, but to varying degrees.

Tuch (26), Okposo (34), Skinner (30), Olofsson (27) aren't carry their weight. These Vets are failing the team, especially the last 5 games...vet leadership, where?

Girgenson (28), Mitts (24yo, 210 NHL gms) and Asplund have solid defensive game skills , but also need to contribute more on the scoresheet.

Krebs (21yo, 74 NHL gms) should be showing considerably more. He needs to earn his way up from 4th Line time soon, and he doesn't look like it is coming quickly.

- IonSabres

Very Good Post!! Good or bad it makes the decision making on there prospects harder, they are such a young team, we probably will never see some of are prospects. Just so many, plus 6 more in the top 4rnds this coming draft. When is the right time to use some of that to maybe help a Weakness (RD) in your system.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
r-e-l-a-x

sabres are goodish. lost to bunch of good teams and one gross period against the coyotes

- robz228

I don’t disagree. And I get being optimistic as someone who’s a numbers guy…. But…

When for the love of everything holy can we have expectations that aren’t in the absolute basement.

It’s a 5 game losing streak
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:15 PM ET
KA and Staff are Hockey Operatjons.
The Business side, including in-game experience falls under the President, who is MIA.

A 5 year plan, IMO does not mean it end in hardware. Nope. It is the start of regularly being in the PO's and contending during windows. Your expectations are incorrect, again IMO. You feel differently, fine...but Adam's has been honest, if you disagree with the Plan, that is on you, it doesn't make it wrong.

Quinn (21yo, 14 NHL gms) , Peterka (21yo, 14 NHL gms), Cozens(21yo, 135 gms), Power (20yo, 23 NHL gms), Samuelsson (22yo, 59 NHL gms) all seem to be headed in the right direction but require alot more development time to reach full potential. Dahlin (22yo, 291 NHL gms) and Tage (25yo, 238 NHLgms) are budding superstars (can't believe I'm writing that about TNT lol) developing before your eyes. That's 9 guys now playing pretty well, but to varying degrees.

Tuch (26), Okposo (34), Skinner (30), Olofsson (27) aren't carry their weight. These Vets are failing the team, especially the last 5 games...vet leadership, where?

Girgenson (28), Mitts (24yo, 210 NHL gms) and Asplund have solid defensive game skills , but also need to contribute more on the scoresheet.

Krebs (21yo, 74 NHL gms) should be showing considerably more. He needs to earn his way up from 4th Line time soon, and he doesn't look like it is coming quickly.

- IonSabres

Agree with all. If we had a real goalie and Samuelsson, I bet we take a couple of the last 5 as well.
People are short on patience and it’s hard to fault them. It’s been a train wreck for the past 10+ years. If I’m a little kid in Buffalo, I’m excited. Most of us here are decades long fans looking for a quick fix that’s not coming today
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
Do I play Brissett vs the Dolphins or Cousins vs the Bills?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
Sabres are at lease interesting to watch. Kind of like Ottawa last year. They lost but you saw development and know some guys are NHLers. Need our prospects not in NHL to hit. Like out performing their draft position, and becoming a legit player. Need to win a trade somewhere in the near future. Hope you hit lottery luck and move up. Target one FA who you think will really help the team and pay that person. And we need a goalie.

Lot of holes still but this isn't tank Sabres with nothing to look forward to.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
KA and Staff are Hockey Operatjons.
The Business side, including in-game experience falls under the President, who is MIA.

A 5 year plan, IMO does not mean it end in hardware. Nope. It is the start of regularly being in the PO's and contending during windows. Your expectations are incorrect, again IMO. You feel differently, fine...but Adam's has been honest, if you disagree with the Plan, that is on you, it doesn't make it wrong.

Quinn (21yo, 14 NHL gms) , Peterka (21yo, 14 NHL gms), Cozens(21yo, 135 gms), Power (20yo, 23 NHL gms), Samuelsson (22yo, 59 NHL gms) all seem to be headed in the right direction but require alot more development time to reach full potential. Dahlin (22yo, 291 NHL gms) and Tage (25yo, 238 NHLgms) are budding superstars (can't believe I'm writing that about TNT lol) developing before your eyes. That's 9 guys now playing pretty well, but to varying degrees.

Tuch (26), Okposo (34), Skinner (30), Olofsson (27) aren't carry their weight. These Vets are failing the team, especially the last 5 games...vet leadership, where?

Girgenson (28), Mitts (24yo, 210 NHL gms) and Asplund have solid defensive game skills , but also need to contribute more on the scoresheet.

Krebs (21yo, 74 NHL gms) should be showing considerably more. He needs to earn his way up from 4th Line time soon, and he doesn't look like it is coming quickly.

- IonSabres


Agree with most of this ion.

The young core isn't the worrisome part .
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Agree with most of this ion.

The young core isn't the worrisome part .

- Boss34



Does Krebs, Mitts, Joker packaged get you a legit NHLer from someone? Haven't followed other teams as much this year. Any disgruntled player somewhere? Are these guys essentially worthless to another team?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Owen Power is 19/20 (not sure if he turned 20 yet) and is playing 29 minutes in an NHL game against a league powerhouse and not looking out of place.

Does anyone realize just how impressive that is ?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
Joker shed the red practice jersey and should be back for Vancouver on Tuesday night.
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