I was told about an hour ago that Adams said this a learning curve and is expected.
- SABRES 89

For him or the players

For him or the players
- Buff36

Ba dum ching

Im still waiting for you to tell me what I've been wrong about.

Where is Peyton Krebs breakout?

Our amateur GM and his trash staff are sitting on their hands while another season ends in November. (frank) a bottom pair depth d man. Why can't this amateur trade for Karlsson? Why hasn't he traded for or acquired a goalie in 2 years who can stop a puck? He has a roster with one forward, one, who is willing to check a defenseman into the boards on a forcheck, and he generally falls over when he does it. Almost all the offense on the team funnels through Dahlin and Thompson. Imagine some of the point toals out there if they didnt get easy assists on our reliable Dahlin QBed PP. And, the best part is, we've got clones of all of these Tiny Dancers in the minors.

Amateurs can trade players who have forced their way out. Amateurs can offer team friendly deals to youngsters who have yet to establish their NHL reputations. Amateurs can draft Owen Power #1 over all.

Amateurs may find it hard to sign Rasmus Dahlin long term as he endures another season done before the new year.

Amateurs obviously find it impossible to break a love affair with any of their prospects to acquire players to help the core moving forwards.

Amateurs, and I find this one particularly useful in identifying an amateur, cannot identify their core players almost half way into a 5 year plan. Thus, an amateur gets stuck with his franchise goalie playing like a franchise goalie for the Boston Bruins. And, finally, an amateur wouldn't care about any of that because in 2 years a college kid is going to come in and save the day (assuming he ever becomes a Sabre).

What, again, is the 5 year plan? What does victory look like at the end of 5 years? 92 points and a wildcard spot? Hell of a 5 year plan.

And, of course, none of this touches the fact we have the 2nd worst fan experience in the NHL. Bravo, Kevy, bravo.
- lacaprup

I can’t remember many teams operating under a playoff or bust mentality coming into the season right at the cap floor.

Kevyn Adams has identified a core of Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, and Skinner (by default).

Only issue is, half of the players on the list have a lot of growing pains to go through as they get acclimated to the NHL game.

I do think Kevyn should have thrown them a bone by claiming Reilly off of waivers or trading for an Ethan Bear.

Could Kevyn have signed a Mason Marchment in the offseason ? Sure he could have.

What I do know, is the Sabres have a lot of young talent and they will be entering a window here in the next couple of years that they have to strike while the iron is hot.

The biggest detriment to Kevyn right now is that he inherited a team already in a 9 year playoff drought, it’s tough to build through a draft and development model when your fan base lost their patience years ago, even though the draft and development model is the right move.

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen unavailable for Rochester’s game tonight because of an illness, the team announced.

Beck Warm recalled from Cincinnati. Michael Houser starting vs. Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/LLyso...SYRoHwKg-irny78hBu5g&s=19

I can’t remember many teams operating under a playoff or bust mentality coming into the season right at the cap floor.

Kevyn Adams has identified a core of Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, and Skinner (by default).

Only issue is, half of the players on the list have a lot of growing pains to go through as they get acclimated to the NHL game.

I do think Kevyn should have thrown them a bone by claiming Reilly off of waivers or trading for an Ethan Bear.

Could Kevyn have signed a Mason Marchment in the offseason ? Sure he could have.

What I do know, is the Sabres have a lot of young talent and they will be entering a window here in the next couple of years that they have to strike while the iron is hot.

The biggest detriment to Kevyn right now is that he inherited a team already in a 9 year playoff drought, it’s tough to build through a draft and development model when your fan base lost their patience years ago, even though the draft and development model is the right move.
- Pegullaville

There's nothing wrong with building through the draft and developing your own. And it's fantastic the Sabres have such a deep pool. But like you said there is a very young core being put in place and acclimating, there is no way the Sabres will evaluate all there prospects, some that probably should be won't be because your still having a very young core acclimating already and you don't want to take that time from them. Adams has to make decisions, because he has enough firepower to add much needed piece or pieces to augment the young core, you can't let a possible asset just waist away, and if Adams doesn't watch out that could very well happen.

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen unavailable for Rochester’s game tonight because of an illness, the team announced.

Beck Warm recalled from Cincinnati. Michael Houser starting vs. Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/LLyso...SYRoHwKg-irny78hBu5g&s=19

The escalators are a w/e, but broken elevators are really embarrassing. The whole arena is a throwback to the cheapest engineering standards of the 1990s, and with no inherent charm whatsoever.

Nice of them to tighten the screw on the beer drinkers last night. I've always advocated for zero alcohol sales on kids day games. I wonder if that'll happen? That would cost money.

Edit: apprarantly there were some nasty cheers last night. Lots of vulgar ones.

Terry and Kim should ban alcohol sales for a month of sober reflection.
- lacaprup

I appreciate you man. I really do like your posts. Buffalo is a drinking town with a sports problem. People here are not die hard hockey fans. We hate any other network airing our games and we care less about other stars than we do about winning. Should we not have a nhl franchise?

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen unavailable for Rochester’s game tonight because of an illness, the team announced.

Beck Warm recalled from Cincinnati. Michael Houser starting vs. Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/LLyso...SYRoHwKg-irny78hBu5g&s=19
- kingcong39

Well hope he feels better. But a shame would have liked to see him.

Well hope he feels better. But a shame would have liked to see him.
- Buff36

No room for that kind of move. Need to evaluate Anderson. Goalies develop late.

If one of the good moves Adams made was signing Vic to a trade friendly deal.....Vic has
never had a higher trade value than he has had the entire month of November. I assume he'll keep his trade value for the season, but that's an assumption. Meanwhile, the losing streak is at 4. CA plays tomorrow. I assume we'll score three. Could be a win. Could be a loss. Team won't change though.

I can’t remember many teams operating under a playoff or bust mentality coming into the season right at the cap floor.

Kevyn Adams has identified a core of Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, and Skinner (by default).

Only issue is, half of the players on the list have a lot of growing pains to go through as they get acclimated to the NHL game.

I do think Kevyn should have thrown them a bone by claiming Reilly off of waivers or trading for an Ethan Bear.

Could Kevyn have signed a Mason Marchment in the offseason ? Sure he could have.

What I do know, is the Sabres have a lot of young talent and they will be entering a window here in the next couple of years that they have to strike while the iron is hot.

The biggest detriment to Kevyn right now is that he inherited a team already in a 9 year playoff drought, it’s tough to build through a draft and development model when your fan base lost their patience years ago, even though the draft and development model is the right move.
- Pegullaville

No one here has said not to draft and develop.

What we have been saying is don’t let that be your only avenue for success. Players don’t develop in a linear fashion and it’s going to take longer than expected. If the plan is D&D only. Write off next year as well.

You were bleeding d-men and refused to moved a 5th rd pick or claim players off of waivers.

You put in Hinistroza on the top line for who knows what reason when you have 3 young players you can move into that spot to see if they can handle it.

It’s okay to draft and develop and also make a somewhat bold move to acquire a bonafide top 6 player without “blowing up the timeline”

No room for that kind of move. Need to evaluate Anderson. Goalies develop late.
- Lunaion

Are they afraid to hurt his feelings, are we being Friends or trying to evaluate who fits and who doesn't.

No one here has said not to draft and develop.

What we have been saying is don’t let that be your only avenue for success. Players don’t develop in a linear fashion and it’s going to take longer than expected. If the plan is D&D only. Write off next year as well.

You were bleeding d-men and refused to moved a 5th rd pick or claim players off of waivers.

You put in Hinistroza on the top line for who knows what reason when you have 3 young players you can move into that spot to see if they can handle it.

It’s okay to draft and develop and also make a somewhat bold move to acquire a bonafide top 6 player without “blowing up the timeline”
- ImThatGuy

Nope we're good 👍

Peyton Krebs: important.

Knuckle Dragger to let everyone else feel like theyre not going to get their ass kicked: nope.

Especially when the season doesn't matter to the organization, why on Earth would you leave Dahlin et al totally unprotected? Rasmus Dahlin should be tough. At 22 Rasmus Dahlin should not be one of your top 5 toughest guys, let alone the toughest guy on the roster.

And whomever the guy is, he wouldn’t even have to play every night.

Amateurs built this roster.

If one of the good moves Adams made was signing Vic to a trade friendly deal.....Vic has
never had a higher trade value than he has had the entire month of November. I assume he'll keep his trade value for the season, but that's an assumption. Meanwhile, the losing streak is at 4. CA plays tomorrow. I assume we'll score three. Could be a win. Could be a loss. Team won't change though.
- lacaprup

Would say VO's trade value peaked this time a year ago, right before he got hurt. Was playing his best hockey in a Sabres uniform.

Ideally, they would have moved him last off-season. Just part of the reason I don't have a lot of faith in all the moves that need to made over the next couple years to turnover this roster.

Where is Gerbe to give us any glimmer of hope?

Did he get told to not come around anymore again?

Are they afraid to hurt his feelings, are we being Friends or trying to evaluate who fits and who doesn't.
- Buff36

The whole situation is perplexing. UPL wasn't treated well last season (Quinn too). Signing Anderson was a priority, now they are hesitant to play him when he's been good. I don't know what their priorities are. This is the final year of UPL's waiver exemption. He's going to be in Buffalo next year and we've learned very little about him at the NHL level.

Peyton Krebs: important.

Knuckle Dragger to let everyone else feel like theyre not going to get their ass kicked: nope.

Especially when the season doesn't matter to the organization, why on Earth would you leave Dahlin et al totally unprotected? Rasmus Dahlin should be tough. At 22 Rasmus Dahlin should not be one of your top 5 toughest guys, let alone the toughest guy on the roster.

And whomever the guy is, he wouldn’t even have to play every night.

Amateurs built this roster.
- lacaprup

Wish he wouldn't have hurt his Shoulder would have seen him at the prospects challenge but there's a kid coming up that will be are next Marcus Foligno with more Offensive upside. Olivier Nadeau he's gonna be fun to watch.

The whole situation is perplexing. UPL wasn't treated well last season (Quinn too). Signing Anderson was a priority, now they are hesitant to play him when he's been good. I don't know what their priorities are. This is the final year of UPL's waiver exemption. He's going to be in Buffalo next year and we've learned very little about him at the NHL level.
- Lunaion

Vibes

standing ovation for Borje Salming

https://twitter.com/TicTa...-uQMzxD8au2ZijGfFxlw&s=19

No one here has said not to draft and develop.

What we have been saying is don’t let that be your only avenue for success. Players don’t develop in a linear fashion and it’s going to take longer than expected. If the plan is D&D only. Write off next year as well.

You were bleeding d-men and refused to moved a 5th rd pick or claim players off of waivers.

You put in Hinistroza on the top line for who knows what reason when you have 3 young players you can move into that spot to see if they can handle it.

It’s okay to draft and develop and also make a somewhat bold move to acquire a bonafide top 6 player without “blowing up the timeline”
- ImThatGuy

Dude you just want “instant” (playoffs after 11 years) gratification

The whole situation is perplexing. UPL wasn't treated well last season (Quinn too). Signing Anderson was a priority, now they are hesitant to play him when he's been good. I don't know what their priorities are. This is the final year of UPL's waiver exemption. He's going to be in Buffalo next year and we've learned very little about him at the NHL level.
- Lunaion

It's a good thing growing your prospect pool, and even better having the top ranked prospect pool and trying to develop and grow from within. But you can't just do that especially when you are already building around a core that's as young as the Sabres are, you just won't have the proper time to evaluate these kids. We have a abundance of Wingers and a lot of them are similar in style, use a strength and attack a weakness( Top 4RD), you can't let assets just rot away in your system.

Where is Gerbe to give us any glimmer of hope?

Did he get told to not come around anymore again?
- ImThatGuy

Gerbe told us exactly what the plan was this year and it’s gone exactly as he said it would.

Dude you just want “instant” (playoffs after 11 years) gratification
- sbroads24

What does Kevyn have to do with the previous regimes failures ?

Should he rush for us to get knocked out of the first round ? Or try to build a cup contender ?

What does Kevyn have to do with the previous regimes failures ?

Should he rush for us to get knocked out of the first round ? Or try to build a cup contender ?
- Pegullaville

Try to build a Cup contender, but sooner or later you have to use your strengths to build up your weaknesses and Adams hasn't seemed to learn that fully yet.