No one bats an eye at Casey Desmith or Varlamov. Not to mention the endless cover ups by Hockey Canada. I’m intrigued if that story ever blows up. Lots of big names on the 2003 and 2018 teams.. What did mason mctavish do?
- Mahewman

Not Mason McTavish. Craig MacTavish. Got drunk. Went driving. Slammed into a young woman and killed her. Convicted of vehicular manslaughter. Went to prison. Served his time. Said sorry. Came back to win multiple Cups, heralded as a great leader, became an NHL coach, GM, and media commentator. Second chances...

No one bats an eye at Casey Desmith or Varlamov. Not to mention the endless cover ups by Hockey Canada. I’m intrigued if that story ever blows up. Lots of big names on the 2003 and 2018 teams.. What did mason mctavish do?
- Mahewman

Uhm, sponsors have withdrawn their funding and the CEO and Board of Hockey Canada have resigned. The organization has been shamed nationally. The police have reopened their investigations into both assaults.

Not Mason McTavish. Craig MacTavish. Got drunk. Went driving. Slammed into a young woman and killed her. Convicted of vehicular manslaughter. Went to prison. Served his time. Said sorry. Came back to win multiple Cups, heralded as a great leader, became an NHL coach, GM, and media commentator. Second chances...
- Cooleus

The first step to deserve a second chance is to show genuine remorse

miller gets cut free by Boston, but Montreal keeps their dirt bag, but everyone is ok with that, he recorded took pictures of a teenage girl and shared them
- monkman1967

What does this have to do with the Bruins? Wouldn't it be up to Montreal's fans to push back on that?

Not Mason McTavish. Craig MacTavish. Got drunk. Went driving. Slammed into a young woman and killed her. Convicted of vehicular manslaughter. Went to prison. Served his time. Said sorry. Came back to win multiple Cups, heralded as a great leader, became an NHL coach, GM, and media commentator. Second chances...
- Cooleus

This is a deflection and has nothing to do with this story. As for MacTavish, allowing him back was the wrong decision and he should've been done with NHL hockey after that. But again pointing to past (frank) ups and other leagues poor decisions is a deflection and carries no weight or relevance to this story.

poop like this is a problem. Period. Organizations have a code of conduct and it should be upheld. I know if I did things like this, I would be fired immediately, and would most likely have great struggles trying to work in my field or any other afterwards

The first step to deserve a second chance is to show genuine remorse
- Canada Cup

Which has yet to happen, according to the information available.

Which has yet to happen, according to the information available.
- glove_was_stuck

BUT HES BEING CANCELED

BUT HES BEING CANCELED
- Canada Cup

IDGAF

This is a deflection and has nothing to do with this story. As for MacTavish, allowing him back was the wrong decision and he should've been done with NHL hockey after that. But again pointing to past (frank) ups and other leagues poor decisions is a deflection and carries no weight or relevance to this story.

poop like this is a problem. Period. Organizations have a code of conduct and it should be upheld. I know if I did things like this, I would be fired immediately, and would most likely have great struggles trying to work in my field or any other afterwards
- glove_was_stuck

So then why doesn't the NHL make a stand right now. Kick MacTavish out. Banish Patrick Kane. Anyone involved with the Hockey Canada assault gets kicked out too. But maybe its easier to just make an example out of this one prospect and then virtue signal that the NHL doesn't tolerate bad behaviour.

So then why doesn't the NHL make a stand right now. Kick MacTavish out. Banish Patrick Kane. Anyone involved with the Hockey Canada assault gets kicked out too. But maybe its easier to just make an example out of this one prospect and then virtue signal that the NHL doesn't tolerate bad behaviour.

- Cooleus

Or maybe you make an effort to be better going forward? That's just it? Got it wrong in the past so (frank) it? DO nothing?

Or maybe you make an effort to be better going forward? That's just it? Got it wrong in the past so (frank) it? DO nothing?
- glove_was_stuck

EDIT: What's your solution? Scream cancel culture? Sit there with your poopy diaper and cry cause you don't agree?

That little poop coward isn't a victim of anything other than his own actions.

(frank) the little rich poop and his rich family. I'm sure he'll be just fine in life.

That little poop coward isn't a victim of anything other than his own actions.

(frank) the little rich poop and his rich family. I'm sure he'll be just fine in life.
- PDO-Speedwagon

It just doesn't seem like there is any contrition from this kid. Where are the people in his corner? Coaches, teammates, family, friends? What actions has he taken to show he's earned the 2nd chance? Where is it? That's why this happening.

It just doesn't seem like there is any contrition from this kid. Where are the people in his corner? Coaches, teammates, family, friends? What actions has he taken to show he's earned the 2nd chance? Where is it? That's why this happening.
- glove_was_stuck

I did read an article from his coach in the USHL and he did speak pretty glowingly. I would imagine its kind of a difficult decision to come to his defense at this point. Your just subjecting yourself to the internet mob.

I did read an article from his coach in the USHL and he did speak pretty glowingly. I would imagine its kind of a difficult decision to come to his defense at this point. Your just subjecting yourself to the internet mob.
- Mahewman

Also, do we know all the facts? Do we just take whatever is said at face value. For example, if a family takes out a restraining order, can he go knock on the door to say sorry? Can he call the house and ask to meet? So he does his best to abide by a restraining order, yet gets criticized because he didn't come over and say sorry. Again, we don't know all the facts. But everyone acts like they do.

Also, do we know all the facts? Do we just take whatever is said at face value. For example, if a family takes out a restraining order, can he go knock on the door to say sorry? Can he call the house and ask to meet? So he does his best to abide by a restraining order, yet gets criticized because he didn't come over and say sorry. Again, we don't know all the facts. But everyone acts like they do.
- Cooleus

Cool man

Why dont you go do your deep dive into the facts that you are looking for and then come back here and interpret them to support your own conclusion. If from what you have read you still think there are more, onus is on you to go find more for yourself.

For the rest of us, if it acts like a monster, it probably is one. Bring some "facts" that proves he has changed, and maybe there is a different discussion.

Also, do we know all the facts? Do we just take whatever is said at face value. For example, if a family takes out a restraining order, can he go knock on the door to say sorry? Can he call the house and ask to meet? So he does his best to abide by a restraining order, yet gets criticized because he didn't come over and say sorry. Again, we don't know all the facts. But everyone acts like they do.
- Cooleus

Including you.

Cool man

Why dont you go do your deep dive into the facts that you are looking for and then come back here and interpret them to support your own conclusion. If from what you have read you still think there are more, onus is on you to go find more for yourself.

For the rest of us, if it acts like a monster, it probably is one. Bring some "facts" that proves he has changed, and maybe there is a different discussion.
- dothedougie

It's much easier to just tell everyone what to think and then take shots when they disagree with you. Everyone does it. Not everyone is aware of it.

I did read an article from his coach in the USHL and he did speak pretty glowingly. I would imagine its kind of a difficult decision to come to his defense at this point. Your just subjecting yourself to the internet mob.
- Mahewman

Sure but if you really believed in the kid, then why not fight for what you believe it is right?

Including you.
- glove_was_stuck

This

It's much easier to just tell everyone what to think and then take shots when they disagree with you. Everyone does it. Not everyone is aware of it.
- glove_was_stuck

Pretty much. Oh well. Moving on now. Its done, contract is terminated, bruins can hopefully keep playing well while the front office cleans up the poop they took in the front lobby.

He was convicted of assault. A judge deemed it was worth community service. He served his "time". If you don't agree with the punishment that is a different issue


So who gets to decide what he can and can't do for the rest of his life. you? the mob?

At what age can a kid do something horrible that you will hold against him for the rest of his life? He was in grade 8.. What if he was in grade 4.. do the actions of a 10 year old also qualify for you to denounce a kid for the rest of their life?

Don't get me wrong or twisted here.. What the kid did was horrible and I am in no way saying he was anything but 100% wrong to do it.

In the same vein you can bet that the NHL is doing everything that they can to keep the details of the Hockey Canada incident quiet.. It would be terrible to make this outcry at this kid and then allow a bunch on current NHLers to play after committing Sexual Assault..
- Azuredoom

Who gets to decide? The NHL - if that's where he wants to play.

As for previous wrongdoings... they have nothing to do with THIS situation. Just because something was handled poorly in the past doesn't mean we (society) need to follow that path.

Pretty much. Oh well. Moving on now. Its done, contract is terminated, bruins can hopefully keep playing well while the front office cleans up the poop they took in the front lobby.
- dothedougie

Another solid win. Looking forward to the Calgary matchup.

It just doesn't seem like there is any contrition from this kid. Where are the people in his corner? Coaches, teammates, family, friends? What actions has he taken to show he's earned the 2nd chance? Where is it? That's why this happening.
- glove_was_stuck

The thing is that it's impossible for him to do anything that anyone will believe is sincere. That moment passed four years ago. Isaiah's statement did say that Mitchell reached out to apologize to him. Understandably, Isaiah wanted nothing to do with it. There's nothing Mitchell can do that won't make an apology all about Mitchell. That ship has sailed. A sincere public apology is only about Mitchell and a quiet face-to-face apology isn't something Isaiah wants anything to do with.

I also assume there are people in his corner and he is making a legit attempt to be a better person. The Bruins claim they did their due diligence so there must be quite a few people around Mitchell who believe he's done enough to deserve a second chance.

Were the things Mitchell did horrific and unforgivable? Absolutely. Should he be continually punished for the awful things he did as a teenager and barred from the NHL for life? I don't know, but probably not. The only thing that's absolutely clear right now is the Bruins completely dropped the ball by not even attempting to put a PR spin on the announcement and just assuming everyone would have forgotten by now.

The thing is that it's impossible for him to do anything that anyone will believe is sincere. That moment passed four years ago. Isaiah's statement did say that Mitchell reached out to apologize to him. Understandably, Isaiah wanted nothing to do with it. There's nothing Mitchell can do that won't make an apology all about Mitchell. That ship has sailed. A sincere public apology is only about Mitchell and a quiet face-to-face apology isn't something Isaiah wants anything to do with.

I also assume there are people in his corner and he is making a legit attempt to be a better person. The Bruins claim they did their due diligence so there must be quite a few people around Mitchell who believe he's done enough to deserve a second chance.

Were the things Mitchell did horrific and unforgivable? Absolutely. Should he be continually punished for the awful things he did as a teenager and barred from the NHL for life? I don't know, but probably not. The only thing that's absolutely clear right now is the Bruins completely dropped the ball by not even attempting to put a PR spin on the announcement and just assuming everyone would have forgotten by now.
- Squeaky

The kid is still getting a college education so it's not like he won't be without. But yeah his actions took the away the privilege to be a millionaire and play a game for a living. There are consequences for what you do. Too (frank)ing bad. Maybe in the next life don't be a piece of poop for the 1st 20 years of your life. I don't feel for this kid. He earned his lot in life just as we all do.

EDIT: Can we go back to talking about Hockey now?