Whether Levi is ready or not is probably a moot point because if he thought he was ready he'd be here. It seems ludacris to me anyone would want to be a college goalie rather than starting for an NHL team, but here we are. It would take outside the box thinking from all sides to put Levi in a Sabre jersey this or next season, and that stuff ain't allowed. Losing the "smart" way is alwags the safest, most preferred option for losing entities. Taking a swing at it is hard.
- lacaprup

Yet Quinn and Krebs should be down, all the while you support Levy, a college kid to be in the NHL.

Your logic gives me neck cramps and headaches.

Yes could be from your blue line or 2ft in front of the net, there the same.
- Buff36

Yup, both shots, must be the same.

Yup, both shots, must be the same.
- IonSabres

LLysowski said Dahlin was feeling better, hasn't been ruled out for tomorrow.

Yup, both shots, must be the same.
- IonSabres

(Is it correct that) Even the “high danger” stat is flawed, in that it only considers the area shot came from, ignores other factors like whether the shooter had a Dman all over him, or if he was standing all alone tapping in a cross crease pass.

I like the black and red jersey's, I will order one.

Yes could be from your blue line or 2ft in front of the net, there the same.
- Buff36

Is it the same when OV or Okposo are shooting from the slot? It is and that is very laughable. Torts is right.

Is it the same when OV or Okposo are shooting from the slot? It is and that is very laughable. Torts is right.
- Freddie krug

All shots are shots, doesn't matter from where or who there just shots.

(Is it correct that) Even the “high danger” stat is flawed, in that it only considers the area shot came from, ignores other factors like whether the shooter had a Dman all over him, or if he was standing all alone tapping in a cross crease pass.
- Ratsreign

I don’t think anything is a perfect science, but it paints a relative picture

All shots are shots, doesn't matter from where or who there just shots.
- Buff36

I think the point a lot of people make is analytics in general are flawed. A shot is not at all the same coming off the stick of OV vs most players. I'm pretty sure Comrie would prefer Okposo shooting at him all day long rather than face a couple rips from OV. It is laughable how some of these stats can make a guy look much better or worse

I think the point a lot of people make is analytics in general are flawed. A shot is not at all the same coming off the stick of OV vs most players. I'm pretty sure Comrie would prefer Okposo shooting at him all day long rather than face a couple rips from OV. It is laughable how some of these stats can make a guy look much better or worse
- Freddie krug

Agreed

I think the point a lot of people make is analytics in general are flawed. A shot is not at all the same coming off the stick of OV vs most players. I'm pretty sure Comrie would prefer Okposo shooting at him all day long rather than face a couple rips from OV. It is laughable how some of these stats can make a guy look much better or worse
- Freddie krug

Sure, but by using data where most goals are scored from in conjunction with shot locations on the ice can get you a much more reliable data then just looking at the shot clock and using simple Corsi.

Sure, but by using data where most goals are scored from in conjunction with shot locations on the ice can get you a much more reliable data then just looking at the shot clock and using simple Corsi.
- Pegullaville

I haven't read up in awhile, but doesn't ixGF give consideration to the individual shooters' shot % to get closer? I could be way off base

I haven't read up in awhile, but doesn't ixGF give consideration to the individual shooters' shot % to get closer? I could be way off base
- IonSabres

Agreed, you're way off base.

I haven't read up in awhile, but doesn't ixGF give consideration to the individual shooters' shot % to get closer? I could be way off base
- IonSabres

It does, but still not a perfect science.

When guys like Matthews and Tage are consistently scoring above expected though, it’s pretty easy to understand why that is

All stats are flawed, period.
To disqualify one, should we disqualify them all?
Recognize their limitations and the general picture they paint...they provide more info and context...and certainly another set of questions.
Put them together to get a fair representation and with recognition some parts are flawed.

Or we can wear three fabric masks and two sets of underwear while driving alone in our car to buy gas and return home...all to thwart the pandemic by following science, lol.
- IonSabres

🤔 but...
Wouldn’t following the stats be following “the science”

🤔 but...
Wouldn’t following the stats be following “the science”
- Ratsreign

"Science sucks" Torts

Yet Quinn and Krebs should be down, all the while you support Levy, a college kid to be in the NHL.

Your logic gives me neck cramps and headaches.
- IonSabres

Your absolute fear to confront what I say rather than make up up poop I've never said is telling. Like richardroma level.

Krebs has failed at the NHL level so far. He is still eligible for Roch. Where did I say Quinn should go down; furthermore, we have more Quinn's than we can shake a stick at. We have forward options, so sending Quinn down is at least an option. He's nothing more than an extra part right now.

Maybe this is hard for you to grasp, so im going to use bold and caps.

WE HAVE NO STARTING GOALIES IN THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION!!!!!!!

So all shots are the same in terms of scoring chances then.
Got it! Lol.

No difference between a Dman's retreating shot from the blue line
Vs
A Left wing cross ice pass through the slot to an open RW in the crease.
(Comrie stopped 9 of 10 of these variety, but he sucks)

Laughable.
- IonSabres

When Comrie has some slug blast two point blank shots right into him Saturday night why are those high danger chances? Oh yeah, because they were in close. It has nothing to do with the fact a 4th line slug just shot two pucks right into Comrie I could have saved.

Why don't you tell me next what a great fielder IKF was for the Yankees this year? So amazing he was yanked in the ALCS. Yet expected nonsense and defensive WAR say he was a fancy defender at shortstop.

No, it sounds to me you only like the eye test and counting stats.

Take some time and read up on various advanced stats rather than dismissing
- IonSabres

You assume I haven't becaue I disagree with with your analysis, yet I NEVER have to misconstrue your opinion and you always have to mine. Hmph....

When Comrie has some slug blast two point blank shots right into him Saturday night why are those high danger chances? Oh yeah, because they were in close. It has nothing to do with the fact a 4th line slug just shot two pucks right into Comrie I could have saved.

Why don't you tell me next what a great fielder IKF was for the Yankees this year? So amazing he was yanked in the ALCS. Yet expected nonsense and defensive WAR say he was a fancy defender at shortstop.
- lacaprup

I dont watch baseball and could not care any less about it.

All shots the same, got it.

Your absolute fear to confront what I say rather than make up up poop I've never said is telling. Like richardroma level.

Krebs has failed at the NHL level so far. He is still eligible for Roch. Where did I say Quinn should go down; furthermore, we have more Quinn's than we can shake a stick at. We have forward options, so sending Quinn down is at least an option. He's nothing more than an extra part right now.

Maybe this is hard for you to grasp, so im going to use bold and caps.

WE HAVE NO STARTING GOALIES IN THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION!!!!!!!
- lacaprup

I think Krebs has actually played okay if you watch him. He is quick. Makes some nice passes.

I think Quinn is flat out too slow. He falls on the ice all the time. So not strong on feet.

Problem is The only way they get up to speed is by playing nhl games and playing at that speed

I like the black and red jersey's, I will order one.
- SABRES 89

Jack Eichel jersey!

Lance Lysowski
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Sabres’ lines/pairs at the skate with Lyubushkin not out there:

Mittelstadt-Thompson-Peterka
Skinner-Cozens-Tuch
Asplund-Krebs-Olofsson
Quinn-Girgensons-Okposo

Bryson-Dahlin
Clague-Power
Pilut-Fitzgerald
Davies, Hinostroza extras.



Looks like Dahlin is back