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Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:06 PM ET
At what point do folks stop blaming Chabot's lack of progression on too much ice time? Major error 1 minute in the game to allow Stone to score. Surely, he can't be tired.

Defensive miscue by Hamonic on the 2nd goal. Not really addressing the defence in the summer seems to be an error in judgement.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Defense can be taught/learned Offense cannot, if OTT can get a actual NHL coach he can work with Chabot, DJ needs to go ASAP
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
This is almost unwatchable.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:23 PM ET
Another stupid play by Stutzle.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
Another stupid play by Stutzle.
- Whatisavailable


Stop blaming Chabot for stupid plays by other players.

How about that brilliant DeBrincat move?

Got to start bringing attention to all the goals against he is responsible for.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
do OTT even know how to play Defense?
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Nov 3 @ 8:33 PM ET
Bad play by Stu on the PP. Not sure how he slipped. Chabot was directing the back check and then decided at the last minute to cover the area he was directing too. He isn't doing himself favours.

Absurd giveaway by Debrincat.

Zero structure when or knowhow when this team is in the defensive zone. Coaching needs a shakeup or else Ryan Reynolds will back out.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:44 PM ET
Great pass by Sanderson and shot by Giroux.

By the way it was Giroux who was floating and didn't take Kucherov on that goal. It wasn't Chabot who screwed up.
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Finally starting to play.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
can you imagine were OTT would be right now with a actual NHL quality coach....Dorion did not need to keep DJ to fire if the team craps out with a actual NHL coach OTT would be among the tops of teams...
Barrykerr1
Joined: 08.06.2014

Nov 3 @ 9:08 PM ET
J C Tremblay used to do that all the time. Flip the puck on net and see how it bounces. He actually scored quite a few goals that way.

So that's Hamonic and Sanderson.

Sanderson again for all you guys saying he's the Sens best D.

- Whatisavailable


Loved watching JC Tremblany score those goals from within his own blue line!

RIP
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 9:24 PM ET
This is a good team and are great to watch. Go Sens Go.

Man these guys are entertaining!
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM ET
dumb ass penalty by....zeitsev
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM ET
0-4 now in last 4, do you think DJ gets fired when OTT goes 0-5 VS philly
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
It's like a light switch. Turn it off or on. Why do these guys play so pathetically sometimes and then all of a sudden play like the talented players that they are? Doesn't make sense.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 4 @ 6:06 AM ET
It was a highly entertaining game.

Sanderson had his worst game.
Missing Norris.

They outshot and outplayed Vegas for most of the game but struggled badly in their own end all evening.

Naive for folks to characterize this as an issue of "defensive structure." The problem is the top 4 D pairings are not NHL quality. Even more so since Zub has gone down.

#1 summer priority for Sens was to add top 4 Dman. They did not and we are seeing the consequences.



spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
Interesting. Notice for sale of Sens prescribes a process where only bids involving Sens remaining in Ottawa will be considered. Also, Board will not make any further comment until a sale has been concluded.

Typically. this sounds like a situation where they already have at least one acceptable offer and they are looking close on the best offer.

I think we will be told the successful bid for Christmas.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 4 @ 10:40 AM ET
Interesting. Notice for sale of Sens prescribes a process where only bids involving Sens remaining in Ottawa will be considered. Also, Board will not make any further comment until a sale has been concluded.

Typically. this sounds like a situation where they already have at least one acceptable offer and they are looking close on the best offer.

I think we will be told the successful bid for Christmas.

- spatso

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Nov 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
Interesting. Notice for sale of Sens prescribes a process where only bids involving Sens remaining in Ottawa will be considered. Also, Board will not make any further comment until a sale has been concluded.

Typically. this sounds like a situation where they already have at least one acceptable offer and they are looking close on the best offer.

I think we will be told the successful bid for Christmas.

- spatso


The requirment to stay in Ottawa is intersting. Is this only to assure a nervous fanbase that they intend to keep the team here, or did some groups hope to move the team elsewehre?

We know the league / Bettman seemed intent on the team remaining in Ottawa.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Nov 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
Having Deadpool in the ownership group would be great......he can handle the contract terminations.
- Beergu


He even has the right colors!
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuub
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.28.2021

Nov 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
Shall we pass the hat around and make the management and ownership visions we all have here so strongly a reality????

I gots a few fivers and ethereum stablecoins lying around, oh and a gift certificate for $15 of Starbucks coffee. Oh, and a loonie I just found on my floor. Sweet.....

That's like 0.1% of $655M right??? Riiiiiight????
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 4 @ 12:42 PM ET
If I'm a billionaire I'm easily sifting through the rhetoric and typical local media bs and the bidding starts at 400m. Times are bad. You're trying to sell a bad hockey team in an old arena(albeit functioning) There's a hope and a handshake on a new arena. Fickle fans. Dead down town core. Non functioning transit system

I figure the girls need to sell it for whatever covers EM's debt and gives them enough to live off of and so on. I've heard some talk they're only selling off 51% and I call ballooney on that one. They're done.

In 2016 or 2017 I read an article claiming he was worth 1.2B but that the team and other "paper" made up most of that. Then we heard stories that he had refinanced his debt a number of times, sold off everything in Barbados as creditors were closing in.

So, really we are speculating at this point. I think the girls and the team are heavily in the red. They're selling the debt and the team to someone and getting out.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
If I'm a billionaire I'm easily sifting through the rhetoric and typical local media bs and the bidding starts at 400m. Times are bad. You're trying to sell a bad hockey team in an old arena(albeit functioning) There's a hope and a handshake on a new arena. Fickle fans. Dead down town core. Non functioning transit system

I figure the girls need to sell it for whatever covers EM's debt and gives them enough to live off of and so on. I've heard some talk they're only selling off 51% and I call ballooney on that one. They're done.

In 2016 or 2017 I read an article claiming he was worth 1.2B but that the team and other "paper" made up most of that. Then we heard stories that he had refinanced his debt a number of times, sold off everything in Barbados as creditors were closing in.

So, really we are speculating at this point. I think the girls and the team are heavily in the red. They're selling the debt and the team to someone and getting out.

- Octavarium


Folks who know how to make money...know hew to make money. The LeBreton lands in on the site of former logging operations and the soil is in need of remediation. In the last go round the NCC offered to pay upwards of $200m for the remediation. I believe one of the partners on the failed attempt last time was a company that specializes in remediation.

The Ottawa business community is so ready for this that we might be shocked by how quickly it moves and how deeply the business community comes on as huge Sens supporters.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Nov 4 @ 5:49 PM ET
The requirment to stay in Ottawa is intersting. Is this only to assure a nervous fanbase that they intend to keep the team here, or did some groups hope to move the team elsewehre?

We know the league / Bettman seemed intent on the team remaining in Ottawa.

- david22


The market means something, it's far enough to be outside Montreal and Toronto's profit regions, it creates more local rivalry, it's the nation's capital, and the arena deal could transform the team. There's a lot going for this city despite sub-par numbers and middling on-ice product. I'm not surprised by the condition, I suspect Bettman is on board, as are the girls who want to honour their father's legacy to this city, checkered as the past may be. I really wanted the Melnyk girls to keep running it themselves, but Ryan Reynolds as a minority owner would be pretty cool.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Nov 5 @ 1:01 PM ET
Its Dorion that needs to go. I question even the validity of the summer of dorion. It felt good emotionally but practically was worthless.
Is girouix tradable with this contract?
Was Noris contract neccesary with shoulder history?
Was stutzle paid too fast?
Debrincat... still holds trade value.i guess.
No defence upgrade?
No coaching upgrades in any department?
Whatisavailable
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.20.2021

Nov 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
Its Dorion that needs to go. I question even the validity of the summer of dorion. It felt good emotionally but practically was worthless.
Is girouix tradable with this contract?
Was Noris contract neccesary with shoulder history?
Was stutzle paid too fast?
Debrincat... still holds trade value.i guess.
No defence upgrade?
No coaching upgrades in any department?

- spazzbot

Happy to see that I'm not alone and unfortunately for me it didn't even feel good emotionally.

I'm OK with the Stutzle deal because I think he'll grow into the contract but the Norris signing was questionable for the very reason you cite.

Giroux was never intended to be traded but rather to serve as a mentor for 3 years and I think he'll do that well enough for now at least.

Everybody knew that the D was not up to scratch but I thought they needed to find out what they had in JBD and Thomson before making any significant trades. There was and is no rush because this team is too young to be a serious contender and all that any of the trades people were proposing would accomplish would be to squander assets in exchange for poorer odds at the lottery. That's all Smith accomplished in the last couple of years by playing Chabot into the ground with mostly lousy partners not only stunting his development but making sure the team didn't have guys like Mason McTavish in the system. How that guy is still here is beyond me.

Everybody knows what I think about the DeBrincat acquisition. It was a brilliant marketing move for Ottawa this summer but no serious Cup contender is going to have DeBrincat on the team let alone in the top six. 9 million bucks to qualify!!! YIKES!!! Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Pierre "Proudest Day of My Life" Dorion does it and gobs of people cheer.
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