To me Asplunds game is to not let the other teams have the puck easily. He doesn’t force passes, take low percentage shots or lose the puck trying to deeke. we just gotta find a way for that to matter more than just analytically.
- joshs

Larry Asplund

To me Asplunds game is to not let the other teams have the puck easily. He doesn’t force passes, take low percentage shots or lose the puck trying to deeke. we just gotta find a way for that to matter more than just analytically.
- joshs

Hes so quietly good its obtuse for some people here to not see what the guys does for this team. One of the smartest grinders in the league. And he makes his linemates better.

Hes so quietly good its obtuse for some people here to not see what the guys does for this team. One of the smartest grinders in the league.
- DirtyDan

He's very good defensively and makes next to nothing so I don't understand the constant beef.

This might sound crazy but I'd give up a second for him. If you are going all-in then you might as well go the last mile.
- Slump Buster

Feels like this is the year if you're going to do it.

Hes so quietly good its obtuse for some people here to not see what the guys does for this team. One of the smartest grinders in the league. And he makes his linemates better.
- DirtyDan

Some people = one person

Feels like this is the year if you're going to do it.
- zdp1189

I don't think it will cost that much, Raiders Don't really have much leverage. He's gonna book at the end of the year.

To me Asplunds game is to not let the other teams have the puck easily. He doesn’t force passes, take low percentage shots or lose the puck trying to deeke. we just gotta find a way for that to matter more than just analytically.
- joshs

1st goal last night came off a sustained possession that he was front and center of. Number of times this season where he's the 3rd assist, but played a key part of generating the opportunity.

Play him with more offensive players, see more goals. Play him with more defensive players, give up fewer goals. He works anywhere.

I don't think it will cost that much, Raiders Don't really have much leverage. He's gonna book at the end of the year.
- Buff36

I think it could for two reasons:

1) He is an elite back and there are only a handful of them (less than 5?)
2) I think if they trade him then he far less likely to re-sign there

Jacobs is a pending FA and the Raiders are out of it, it'd only be unlikely cause of cost but pending FA they'll be looking to get something rather than nothing.
- zdp1189

Or they could sign him & bring him back
Just bc they didn’t qualify his 5th year option, doesn’t mean they want him gone necessarily

This might sound crazy but I'd give up a second for him. If you are going all-in then you might as well go the last mile.
- Slump Buster

It does sound crazy
We don’t run the ball much, and we aren’t gonna change our offensive philosophy mid-season

The arena might actually explode if Lyubushkin lays him out
- Hank Balling

As much as I think Jack is a great player I'd luv to see that happen. Center ice open hit. I can see it already.

I've been thinking a lot about the ROR trade. Has there ever been a trade that looked as lopsided as that one did but then swung around years later to at least be even?

The only one I could come up with was the Doyle Alexander trade in 1987. The Tigers picks up Alexander from the Braves. Heading back the other way was 20 year old John Smoltz.

I think it could for two reasons:

1) He is an elite back and there are only a handful of them (less than 5?)
2) I think if they trade him then he far less likely to re-sign there
- Slump Buster

U think Jacobs is a top5 Rb?
That’s a reach imo

It does sound crazy
We don’t run the ball much, and we aren’t gonna change our offensive philosophy mid-season
- jdfitz77

True, but I think part of the reason we don't run it much is because we often can't run it effectively. We do need to take the pressure off of Josh when we can.

I saw reports out there a few minutes ago that we are looking for RBs.

I've been thinking a lot about the ROR trade. Has there ever been a trade that looked as lopsided as that one did but then swung around years later to at least be even?

The only one I could come up with was the Doyle Alexander trade in 1987. The Tigers picks up Alexander from the Braves. Heading back the other way was 20 year old John Smoltz.
- Slump Buster

It has ended up working out for us,
but was also a bad trade for us at the time
*we should’ve gotten more for him

U think Jacobs is a top5 Rb?
That’s a reach imo
- jdfitz77

I do. I think part of the reason that is an easy call is because so many of the backs that were brand names aren't having great years.

https://www.si.com/nfl/ra...s-kansas-city-chiefs-espn

It has ended up working out for us,
but was also a bad trade for us at the time
*we should’ve gotten more for him
- jdfitz77

Absolutely. I think Botts head was in the right place (we needed more useful middle 6 players) but he took the wrong guys. It really was a crazy steal for the Blues at the time. I suspect they knew they had us over the barrel because TPegs had mandated a trade by the end of that day.

True, but I think part of the reason we don't run it much is because we often can't run it effectively. We do need to take the pressure off of Josh when we can.

I saw reports out there a few minutes ago that we are looking for RBs.
- Slump Buster

Except we actually do run it effectively
*with Singletary at least, Moss isn’t very good

And it’s conceivable that we could be looking for a tough inside runner, or even to upgrade on Singletary
But it would be shocking imo if we gave up a lot to do so
And that means u can throw out names like Kamara & Jacobs
Hunt might even be too pricy

1st goal last night came off a sustained possession that he was front and center of. Number of times this season where he's the 3rd assist, but played a key part of generating the opportunity.

Play him with more offensive players, see more goals. Play him with more defensive players, give up fewer goals. He works anywhere.
- Lunaion

That’s just it. His 2 best shifts this year are only bcz a sniper blasted a world class shot. It’s gonna be a chicken and egg debate about him.

Except we actually do run it effectively
*with Singletary at least, Moss isn’t very good

And it’s conceivable that we could be looking for a tough inside runner, or even to upgrade on Singletary
But it would be shocking imo if we gave up a lot to do so
And that means u can throw out names like Kamara & Jacobs
Hunt might even be too pricy
- jdfitz77

I think the difference is that Jacobs is a much better runner than Singletary, and I like Singletary. That said, I suspect we end up with a more discount option like Montgomery or Hunt.

That’s just it. His 2 best shifts this year are only bcz a sniper blasted a world class shot. It’s gonna be a chicken and egg debate about him.
- joshs

I think the point is that he is always good on the ice regardless of the result of the play. Those may appear to be his best shifts but the reality is that he is a damn good player and you have to watch closely to appreciate. Mark Stone was like that early in his career before he became a monster.

I do. I think part of the reason that is an easy call is because so many of the backs that were brand names aren't having great years.

https://www.si.com/nfl/ra...s-kansas-city-chiefs-espn
- Slump Buster

Without putting a ton of thought into it,
I don’t think u can even argue Jacobs is better than ANY of these guys….
(Not in order)
Mccaffrey
Ekeler
Henry
Kamara
Chubb
Barkley
D.Cook

Other guys like Mixon, B.Hall, K.Walker & Javonte Williams are even arguable
And I’m sure there’s a few more I’m forgetting

Absolutely. I think Botts head was in the right place (we needed more useful middle 6 players) but he took the wrong guys. It really was a crazy steal for the Blues at the time. I suspect they knew they had us over the barrel because TPegs had mandated a trade by the end of that day.
- Slump Buster

Yep
Agree with all of that
Sucked at the time, but reasons to be happy with it now- NONE of which includes Berglund or Sobotka 🤣🤣🤣

Without putting a ton of thought into it,
I don’t think u can even argue Jacobs is better than ANY of these guys….
(Not in order)
Mccaffrey
Ekeler
Henry
Kamara
Chubb
Barkley
D.Cook

Other guys like Mixon, B.Hall, K.Walker & Javonte Williams are even arguable
And I’m sure there’s a few more I’m forgetting
- jdfitz77

Half of that list is having a down year. McCaffrey is elite when he is healthy, but how often is that? Henry is on the backside of his career. Barkley is having an amazing year, especially when you consider who the qb is.

Claypool to the Bears.

That’s a miss for the Bills IMO