Wish Sens took Stutzle's countryman JJ Peterka instead of Roby J?
- AlfieisKing

I was hoping that they would grab Peterka in that spot. Partly because he was Stutzle's "countryman" but I also felt that the Germans had a little more upside coming over to NA from a non traditional market.

Time will tell on Jarventie. He seemed like a good pick at the time due to his performance leading into the draft.

Cute. Saw this on Twitter:

Goals by Arizona-born NHL players, 2022-23:

5 - Brady Tkachuk
4 - Matthew Tkachuk
2 - Mark Kastelic
1 - Auston Matthews
1 - Tage Thompson

Pinto at most should get 4.5mx6 no way he should get more then Batherson plus at 4.5 that would be a great deal 🤙
Kastelic signing at 835,000 what a great deal also I love this kid on 4th line, he can wear down opponents and can put up a few points to contribute
Norris injury sucks but I think it’s better just get the surgery and let it heal, I truly believe Brassard can handle the 2nd line Center for rest of year.
And if not Pinto is always there to step up 🤙

How in the world is DJ screwing up a winning line up tonight? He told the media Nick Holden is a healthy scratch and he's playing Zaitsev. This is absolutely why this coach cant figure things out, he never will. I truly give up on this IDIOT COACH!

I was hoping that they would grab Peterka in that spot. Partly because he was Stutzle's "countryman" but I also felt that the Germans had a little more upside coming over to NA from a non traditional market.

Time will tell on Jarventie. He seemed like a good pick at the time due to his performance leading into the draft.
- SensFan25

agree

I agree. It is the loss of the two years and having to pay $12.5m for age 34 and age 35. There were probably better examples (Matthews), that are probably even more severe. But I did want to use something less irritating as an example. Did not want folks saying it is just about the Leafs.

The math suggests that the most cost effective option is to max out your elite players through to age 30 and accept that either they take a discount after 30 or you let them walk. There are going to be more and more 30+ plus players coming on the UFA market every year.
- spatso

Johnny Gaudreau and Matthew Tkachuk had 100 point seasons, their $ is 9.75-10.5 (adjusted for tax in FLA). I don't think Pasta will get 12.5M but I will likely be double digits. But to be honest I see him staying in boston for around 10m

Cute. Saw this on Twitter:

Goals by Arizona-born NHL players, 2022-23:

5 - Brady Tkachuk
4 - Matthew Tkachuk
2 - Mark Kastelic
1 - Auston Matthews
1 - Tage Thompson
- spatso

Let's revisit that in a few weeks

Pinto at most should get 4.5mx6 no way he should get more then Batherson plus at 4.5 that would be a great deal 🤙
Kastelic signing at 835,000 what a great deal also I love this kid on 4th line, he can wear down opponents and can put up a few points to contribute
Norris injury sucks but I think it’s better just get the surgery and let it heal, I truly believe Brassard can handle the 2nd line Center for rest of year.
And if not Pinto is always there to step up 🤙
- sens4life1971

I would agree to 6 years @4.5M however my only concern for Pinto is health (just like Norris). Pinto HAS to play a full season and I think waiting until 2023 is not a bad thing.

How in the world is DJ screwing up a winning line up tonight? He told the media Nick Holden is a healthy scratch and he's playing Zaitsev. This is absolutely why this coach cant figure things out, he never will. I truly give up on this IDIOT COACH!
- LawyerSens4Life

Check to see which visiting scouts are in the building. Especially interested if Vancouver, Chicago or Arizona have eyeballs on this game and Zaitsev in particular..

There are already rumors about the Senators looking at Horvat as a possible C solution for the rest of the year. At some point, I have to wonder if it might not make more sense to at least try Giroux at #2C for a while first. He's younger and more offensively capable than Brassard, and already leads the team in faceoffs taken. Plus, it's far easier to trade for a middle-6 W than it is to find a #2C mid-season. One player that I know they've kicked the tires on before is Andreas Athanasiou, who has just 1yr/$3M left with CHI, and could be a valuable depth winger even if Norris came back.

There are already rumors about the Senators looking at Horvat as a possible C solution for the rest of the year. At some point, I have to wonder if it might not make more sense to at least try Giroux at #2C for a while first. He's younger and more offensively capable than Brassard, and already leads the team in faceoffs taken. Plus, it's far easier to trade for a middle-6 W than it is to find a #2C mid-season. One player that I know they've kicked the tires on before is Andreas Athanasiou, who has just 1yr/$3M left with CHI, and could be a valuable depth winger even if Norris came back.
- khawk

I watched Athanasiou when he was in the Oilers' lineup and I would give him a big fat pass.

There are already rumors about the Senators looking at Horvat as a possible C solution for the rest of the year. At some point, I have to wonder if it might not make more sense to at least try Giroux at #2C for a while first. He's younger and more offensively capable than Brassard, and already leads the team in faceoffs taken. Plus, it's far easier to trade for a middle-6 W than it is to find a #2C mid-season. One player that I know they've kicked the tires on before is Andreas Athanasiou, who has just 1yr/$3M left with CHI, and could be a valuable depth winger even if Norris came back.
- khawk

Move Giroux over to the middle and sign Formenton. That gives you more options to fill the last spot. I don't get why this guy is sitting in limbo while the other guys under investigation are playing. Sign him, and if things go bad, do whatever you're going to do to Batherson to him as well.

I watched Athanasiou when he was in the Oilers' lineup and I would give him a big fat pass.
- Whatisavailable

I know he's not exactly a perfect solution, but he put up 20G/40Pts in 75GP since his brief EDM stretch, and he's one of the few veteran W with just 1year of term left that's available from a team willing to make such a trade this early in the season. There are legitimate injury concerns, but he can play up and down the lineup, and has very strong skating and work ethic. Personally, I wouldn't dismiss him based on a mediocre stretch of 13GP he played in 2019/20.

Move Giroux over to the middle and sign Formenton. That gives you more options to fill the last spot. I don't get why this guy is sitting in limbo while the other guys under investigation are playing. Sign him, and if things go bad, do whatever you're going to do to Batherson to him as well.
- CooCooKaChoo

Totally fair, and the $$$ saved from Norris are more than enough to cover any kind of contract they might have to give Formenton. However, they seem very reluctant to sign Formenton until the World Junior investigation has concluded, and it's possible that the expected punishment for those directly involved will be far different that anyone caught in the periphery.

finally site is back up..now the game vs the wild was the most pathetic attempt at hockey playing if seen in years by the sens, no motivation, no effort, no Hussle, no 2nd try nothing, just pee wee lev el of playing...

that powerplay in the last 2 minutes or so of the game...what in the hell was that crap, holy crap that was sad and pathetic...

Cute. Saw this on Twitter:

Goals by Arizona-born NHL players, 2022-23:

5 - Brady Tkachuk
4 - Matthew Tkachuk
2 - Mark Kastelic
1 - Auston Matthews
1 - Tage Thompson
- spatso

Cute. Made this up right now.

Goals by German-born NHL player, 2022-23:
4 - Leon Draisaitl
4 - Nico Sturm
2 - JJ Peterka
1 - Tim Stutzle
0 - Moritz Seider

finally site is back up..now the game vs the wild was the most pathetic attempt at hockey playing if seen in years by the sens, no motivation, no effort, no Hussle, no 2nd try nothing, just pee wee lev el of playing...

that powerplay in the last 2 minutes or so of the game...what in the hell was that crap, holy crap that was sad and pathetic...
- Mithos

Yup. A team completely uninterested in playing - bags already packed for sunny florida. Chabbot looks lost this season. And the coach is a putz. He literally was giggling with glee putting his fourth liners out and playing right into a much bigger, tougher team's game plan. IDIOT---WE ARE A FINESSE TEAM NOW!!! Ughhh....but sure lets play smash mouth hockey with a way bigger team. I joked that Holden must have had his leg amputated for Zaitsev to get in the line up, and that even a one legged Holden would have been better. Defensive chemistry had been "ok". Last night it was dreadful. What an awful series of coaching decisions that made that game lost from first puck drop.

Yup. A team completely uninterested in playing - bags already packed for sunny florida. Chabbot looks lost this season. And the coach is a putz. He literally was giggling with glee putting his fourth liners out and playing right into a much bigger, tougher team's game plan. IDIOT---WE ARE A FINESSE TEAM NOW!!! Ughhh....but sure lets play smash mouth hockey with a way bigger team. I joked that Holden must have had his leg amputated for Zaitsev to get in the line up, and that even a one legged Holden would have been better. Defensive chemistry had been "ok". Last night it was dreadful. What an awful series of coaching decisions that made that game lost from first puck drop.
- Octavarium

a coach who makes line up changes after loses is trying to ignite his team, a coach who makes line up changes after 4 strait wins were the team scored 5.5 goals on average is a incompetent moron who does not belong in the NHL.

The good news, we have not play our best game. But if not with Fleury couple of good save . We probably have win one point

I remember when some Sens fans decided to turn on Jason Spezza. Perhaps they are happier finding fault and being unhappy. It did not take a long time. Spezza was placed under a microscope and every time he touched the puck and made any kind of misplay, he was subjected to withering criticism by a bunch of observers who had never played the game. When you look hard enough for the flaws you will always find them.

These same folks are now starting to focus on Chabot. Perhaps, they need disappointment in others to avoid having to face the failure in their own lives.

But the guys who are starting to chatter against Chabot need to pause before charging full speed down that destructive path.

The good news, we have not play our best game. But if not with Fleury couple of good save . We probably have win one point
- Crosside

Minnesota coach was pretty clear that he thought this was the best game his team had played this year and Ottawa was a very very hard challenge for them and they had prepared accordingly.

I like Chabbot.
I loved Spezza. I was not one of the ones who lit their torches and ran him out of town. You can thank Simmer for that on 1200. As soon as he was traded we all were bemoaning the fact we had nobody with hands on the power play. Umm.....the guy had just built a 7 million dollar home off Island park or something. He had no interests or demands on being traded. Everyone seems to think they know the story of Jason. I'll include myself here.....we do not. He never asked for a trade. He said "if you want to trade me trade me".

Back to Thomas. He's never been an elite defender. He's never really been an elite offensive D either. He's just steady. And he's paid thusly. But this season, he's pushing, like he feels he needs to do more because of the xtra talent that's here now. He needs a night off in the press box. Just one.

Just for the record Chabot is wide open at the left point, DeBrincat is wide open on the left half boards and the low man, Batherson, has the puck with no immediate pressure and time to make a play, even moving behind the net towards the right side. Tkachuk is in the high slot with two Minnesota defenders directly between him and Batherson. So what bone headed move does Batherson make? He tries forcing a pass through not one but two Minnesota defenders to Tkachuk. The puck gets tipped high up into the air and comes down bouncing on the middle of the blue line. Chabot comes rushing over to try and salvage the situation because of that idiotic pass attempt, the puck bounces and the Minnesota guy gets the tap out of the zone and has momentum going towards the Ottawa net. Who gets blamed?

Chabot is the life blood of this team and without him they would be totally screwed and that play was totally, 100% on Batherson..

They met a Wild team that was playing like their pants were on fire. The Wild are a good, big, fast, hard hitting hockey team with a goaltender that can make some great saves and they were on the top of their game last night. The Sens have been playing well but just didn't have the jam last night. The whole team looked bad. They were beaten to the puck all night long. They lost every puck battle. The Minnesota forecheck was relentless as was their play all over the ice. It didn't help that the puck seemed determined to bounce away from any Sens stick all night long.

Chalk this one up to experience. They'll win a lot of well played and highly entertaining games this year no matter who the coach is but when it comes to playing a well coached, really good team on a mission their complete lack of structure or plan in all areas of the ice is not going to cut it. Having Tkachuk sitting on the offensive blue line waiting for the stretch pass is not a plan. Trying to force passes to the completely covered slot man is not a plan.

Anyway eventually it will become obvious where the blame should rest and it sure as hell is not Chabot; and by the way playing him 27 minutes a game is also not a friggin plan. If the coach was a five year old hockey fan those are the kind of plans I wouldn't be surprised to see.

I watched Athanasiou when he was in the Oilers' lineup and I would give him a big fat pass.
- Whatisavailable

Jonathan Toews will be available in about a month if you are interested at 50% retained. Probably a good #2C as he looks much better this year than last (save for a bad turnover at the end of the game last night).

Just for the record Chabot is wide open at the left point, DeBrincat is wide open on the left half boards and the low man, Batherson, has the puck with no immediate pressure and time to make a play, even moving behind the net towards the right side. Tkachuk is in the high slot with two Minnesota defenders directly between him and Batherson. So what bone headed move does Batherson make? He tries forcing a pass through not one but two Minnesota defenders to Tkachuk. The puck gets tipped high up into the air and comes down bouncing on the middle of the blue line. Chabot comes rushing over to try and salvage the situation because of that idiotic pass attempt, the puck bounces and the Minnesota guy gets the tap out of the zone and has momentum going towards the Ottawa net. Who gets blamed?

Chabot is the life blood of this team and without him they would be totally screwed and that play was totally, 100% on Batherson..

They met a Wild team that was playing like their pants were on fire. The Wild are a good, big, fast, hard hitting hockey team with a goaltender that can make some great saves and they were on the top of their game last night. The Sens have been playing well but just didn't have the jam last night. The whole team looked bad. They were beaten to the puck all night long. They lost every puck battle. The Minnesota forecheck was relentless as was their play all over the ice. It didn't help that the puck seemed determined to bounce away from any Sens stick all night long.

Chalk this one up to experience. They'll win a lot of well played and highly entertaining games this year no matter who the coach is but when it comes to playing a well coached, really good team on a mission their complete lack of structure or plan in all areas of the ice is not going to cut it. Having Tkachuk sitting on the offensive blue line waiting for the stretch pass is not a plan. Trying to force passes to the completely covered slot man is not a plan.

Anyway eventually it will become obvious where the blame should rest and it sure as hell is not Chabot; and by the way playing him 27 minutes a game is also not a friggin plan. If the coach was a five year old hockey fan those are the kind of plans I wouldn't be surprised to see.
- Whatisavailable

A+

But nobody is ever going to move a coach that the players love.