I can't even respond to a statement as fact-less as this!
- jd250

So, one post after making yourself look completely stupid, you challenge someone else on facts?

Medical team should have strengthened JVRs finger before the season started so that it wouldn’t break so easily. Incompetence.
- Dkos

lol
sad part is some here actually think that way

Remember, you're a fact-based person.


https://www.nhl.com/stats...erGame&page=0&pageSize=50
- MJL

Games played....who had more ice time the last two games?

But can he sustain it? looking at the point, two goals in one game....one lucky bounce and an empty netter. get some will say doesn't matter how, but is it sustainable, will he consistently get a point every other game? since, he has had one assist in 5 games.

Same with Hayes...do not expect him to continue his point streak. or hart to continue his save percentage.

stick to the facts...this is not his second season. doesn't matter why or how, just like his draft position at this point.
- Peter Richards

Exactly ... I don't care where/when Frost was drafted or how many games/seasons he has played. The bottom line is forwards that are going to be impact forwards usually show it within the first season to some degree or another. With Frost he has never shown it. Its one thing for a young forward who dazzles you with blazing speed, highly skilled moves and highlight reel goals, but is terrible away from the puck. However its quite another thing to have a young center who can't score, doesn't set up plays, doesn't move his feet consistently, and is not good away from the puck all at same time!

Exactly ... I don't care where/when Frost was drafted or how many games/seasons he has played. The bottom line is forwards that are going to be impact forwards usually show it within the first season to some degree or another. With Frost he has never shown it. Its one thing for a young forward who dazzles you with blazing speed, highly skilled moves and highlight reel goals, but is terrible away from the puck. However its quite another thing to have a young center who can't score, doesn't set up plays, doesn't move his feet consistently, and is not good away from the puck all at same time!
- jd250

This is a completely inaccurate statement concerning Frost. He has shown plenty of times that he has offensive ability and skill.

do not expect this to be this close at the end of the year. but here is the comparison

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

Remember, you're a fact-based person.


https://www.nhl.com/stats...erGame&page=0&pageSize=50
- MJL

As typical, you completely are off the mark. This stat says absolutely nothing about what I was referring to. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes (12:41) than MacEwen did (13.30). In the past 3 games, Frost has barely beat out MacEwen in ice time by less than 2 minutes. These are the real FACTS!

Bottom line, if Frost was any good at all, he would be one of the leaders in forward ice time on this team and currently he is not even close!

do not expect this to be this close at the end of the year. but here is the comparison

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
- Peter Richards

good Christ what has hockey become.....

This is a completely inaccurate statement concerning Frost. He has shown plenty of times that he has offensive ability and skill.
- MJL

Oh, I sure in your fantasy world you see Frost making dazzling offensive plays and scoring in bunches ... but for the rest of us ...

Oh, I sure in your fantasy world you see Frost making dazzling offensive plays and scoring in bunches ... but for the rest of us ...
- jd250

He believes he is a 60 point center.

As typical, you completely are off the mark. This stat says absolutely nothing about what I was referring to. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes (12:41) than MacEwen did (13.30). In the past 3 games, Frost has barely beat out MacEwen in ice time by less than 2 minutes. These are the real FACTS!

Bottom line, if Frost was any good at all, he would be one of the leaders in forward ice time on this team and currently he is not even close!
- jd250

Wow, you are a complete embarrassment.

You made this comment.

"Frost cannot even beat out Zac MacEwen for ice time!!"

I supplied the TOI stats and now you're telling me that it has nothing to do with what you were referring to.

Oh, I sure in your fantasy world you see Frost making dazzling offensive plays and scoring in bunches ... but for the rest of us ...
- jd250

Asinine hyperbole on your part.

do not expect this to be this close at the end of the year. but here is the comparison

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
- Peter Richards

Wow, I didn't realize Mac was actually that much better than Frost. He actually has better possession numbers!

Wow, you are a complete embarrassment.

You made this comment.

"Frost cannot even beat out Zac MacEwen for ice time!!"

I supplied the TOI stats and now you're telling me that it has nothing to do with what you were referring to.
- MJL

Yes, absolutely accurate. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes than MacEwen!

Yes, absolutely accurate. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes than MacEwen!
- jd250

He believes he is a 60 point center.
- hello it's me 2050

Enough said. Lol I’m done then.

Yes, absolutely accurate. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes than MacEwen!
- jd250

I thought it was 2 and 2 for the games they both played as well.

Wow, I didn't realize Mac was actually that much better than Frost. He actually has better possession numbers!
- jd250

Should tell you everything, right? I mean if zac has similar stats to frost, and zac doesn’t deserve to be in the nhl, then obviously….lmao

As typical, you completely are off the mark. This stat says absolutely nothing about what I was referring to. Against Tampa Frost played less minutes (12:41) than MacEwen did (13.30). In the past 3 games, Frost has barely beat out MacEwen in ice time by less than 2 minutes. These are the real FACTS!

Bottom line, if Frost was any good at all, he would be one of the leaders in forward ice time on this team and currently he is not even close!
- jd250

So factually Frost has more Ice time over the past three games than zm?

Is this what you are stating?

do not expect this to be this close at the end of the year. but here is the comparison

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
- Peter Richards

I honestly don't know how this works (largely avoid advanced stats) but what does this tell you?

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

You want more on Frosty, just listen to what Torts said today about him: 9:01 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768AlXS5hGk

So factually Frost has more Ice time over the past three games than zm?

Is this what you are stating?
- corduroy

I listed the facts right in front of you.

I honestly don't know how this works (largely avoid advanced stats) but what does this tell you?

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
- rayc16

Precisely. It’s why I point them out. Others use these stats as the end all day all facts.

I honestly don't know how this works (largely avoid advanced stats) but what does this tell you?

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
- rayc16

"McEwen has better possession numbers than Konecny!

I listed the facts right in front of you.
- jd250

frost cant earn more ice time than zm

jd 250

then:

frost beat out zm by only 2 minutes
also js 250

so what is your argument?