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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
Brandon Beane made himself a bit of a reputation of being a guy who likes to make trades, but he's actually been quiet over the past two years. Not sure we'll see anything.
- buffalofan19


Maybe he was just extra aggressive in the early days? There are so few trades - I don't think he is quiet at all.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:27 AM ET
Brandon Beane made himself a bit of a reputation of being a guy who likes to make trades, but he's actually been quiet over the past two years. Not sure we'll see anything.
- buffalofan19


I think we have the team in place and developed players at a pretty good rate the last few years


Early on in the “rebuild” we were plug and playing holes.

Now we have actual depth.

The bills currently have 2 million in cap space.

Ifffff the bills sign OBJ it’s for Pennies.

If we do trade for someone. We need that team to eat some of the salary.

Mccaffery for example only makes 1 mill salary cap hit wise. So insanely cap friendly deal

Barkley I think makes 4 ish owed

Claypool is owed 1.3 ish
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
I love how many bills fans on twitter say

“We don’t need a roof” on the new stadium and it’s “apart of living in buffalo”

I don’t buy that garbage response.

Last year, I went to the commanders game, very chilly

Dolphins game was cold icy rainy and miserable

Jets game was windy and freezing and fans didn’t show up

Patriots game at the time was horrible. I didn’t truly enjoy it till watching the highlights.

Colts game raining hard and cold


I guess my point is …. Fans don’t want to be freezing at games and players don’t either.

I still went to the games I mentioned. But it wasn’t fun. It was a grind trying to survive some of them.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 27 @ 10:44 AM ET
I love how many bills fans on twitter say

“We don’t need a roof” on the new stadium and it’s “apart of living in buffalo”

I don’t buy that garbage response.

Last year, I went to the commanders game, very chilly

Dolphins game was cold icy rainy and miserable

Jets game was windy and freezing and fans didn’t show up

Patriots game at the time was horrible. I didn’t truly enjoy it till watching the highlights.

Colts game raining hard and cold


I guess my point is …. Fans don’t want to be freezing at games and players don’t either.

I still went to the games I mentioned. But it wasn’t fun. It was a grind trying to survive some of them.

- Sabretooth9


I would guess that the majority of fans agree with you. Unfortunately the team plays up to the idea of it being some kind of advantage for the home team.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 27 @ 10:51 AM ET
I would guess that the majority of fans agree with you. Unfortunately the team plays up to the idea of it being some kind of advantage for the home team.
- Slump Buster

the only advantage is to the owner check book.. #yachtlivesmatter
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
the only advantage is to the owner check book.. #yachtlivesmatter
- SabresFaninIndiana


Taxpayers as well. The whole thing is stupid enough as it is, I can't imagine trying to justify the extra expense for the dome or to be downtown.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
Taxpayers as well. The whole thing is stupid enough as it is, I can't imagine trying to justify the extra expense for the dome or to be downtown.
- Slump Buster


Especially when you really break down the costs associated for a roof versus the added potential benefits of one.

What exactly would a roof bring financially to the stadium? Buffalo will never hold a Super Bowl, wouldn't ever host a FIFA soccer game, wouldn't even be able to host a crap NCAA Bowl game. The infrastructure for such events is just not there. Would a roof be nice? Absolutely, but would the added expense show the ROI, especially on a stadium deal where there rarely if ever is good ROI on such deals?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:21 AM ET
Especially when you really break down the costs associated for a roof versus the added potential benefits of one.

What exactly would a roof bring financially to the stadium? Buffalo will never hold a Super Bowl, wouldn't ever host a FIFA soccer game, wouldn't even be able to host a crap NCAA Bowl game. The infrastructure for such events is just not there. Would a roof be nice? Absolutely, but would the added expense show the ROI, especially on a stadium deal where there rarely if ever is good ROI on such deals?

- Stripes77


A roof would bring additional concerts, convention center floors space, NCAA basketball, UB football, Monster trucks, WWE, and plenty of other options.

If you are concerned about ROI - a new stadium to be used for 10-12 bills game a year is not worth it. From January till august it’s basically dead.

A dome or retractable roof stadium can be used 365 days a year for anything.

If you get 20+ events a year at the domed stadium …. It’s a Win.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Taxpayers as well. The whole thing is stupid enough as it is, I can't imagine trying to justify the extra expense for the dome or to be downtown.
- Slump Buster


The taxpayer money is being paid for by the casino tax revenue they owed the state. Taxpayers aren’t footing too much of the bill

(I think it was around 500+ million from the casinos )
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 27 @ 11:29 AM ET
I love how many bills fans on twitter say

“We don’t need a roof” on the new stadium and it’s “apart of living in buffalo”

I don’t buy that garbage response.

Last year, I went to the commanders game, very chilly

Dolphins game was cold icy rainy and miserable

Jets game was windy and freezing and fans didn’t show up

Patriots game at the time was horrible. I didn’t truly enjoy it till watching the highlights.

Colts game raining hard and cold


I guess my point is …. Fans don’t want to be freezing at games and players don’t either.

I still went to the games I mentioned. But it wasn’t fun. It was a grind trying to survive some of them.

- Sabretooth9

the most miserable bills game I ever went to didn't even involve snow

it was late november 1988

we beat the jets 9-6 in ot to clinch the afc east

36 degrees and steady rain

lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 11:30 AM ET
I certainly would have loved for the Bills fan to have a dome. They certainly deserve it, but as long as the thing gets built i'll be happy. I find the tax dollar arguement to be silly. While the Pegulas get the profit, the Bills fan gets the enjoyment of the building. I, for one, would much rather my NY State tax dollar went to Bills fan than any number of despicable public institutions. At least I like the Bills and people I love live and die with them. On the other side of the coin, I find it tantamount to child abuse to send any child to the Buffalo Public School system. Very easy decision as to which one I'd rather see my tax dollars go to.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
the most miserable bills game I ever went to didn't even involve snow

it was late november 1988

we beat the jets 9-6 in ot to clinch the afc east

36 degrees and steady rain

- homiedclown


Rain and 33 - 50 degrees is the worst. Especially when you're on a mountain side with miles yet to hike.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
the most miserable bills game I ever went to didn't even involve snow

it was late november 1988

we beat the jets 9-6 in ot to clinch the afc east

36 degrees and steady rain

- homiedclown


That was the dolphins game last year. It sucked. I did prepare for the rain and it still didn’t help
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
Especially when you really break down the costs associated for a roof versus the added potential benefits of one.

What exactly would a roof bring financially to the stadium? Buffalo will never hold a Super Bowl, wouldn't ever host a FIFA soccer game, wouldn't even be able to host a crap NCAA Bowl game. The infrastructure for such events is just not there. Would a roof be nice? Absolutely, but would the added expense show the ROI, especially on a stadium deal where there rarely if ever is good ROI on such deals?

- Stripes77


IIRC, part of the talk was to host soccer, hence going with natural grass.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
Rain and 33 - 50 degrees is the worst. Especially when you're on a mountain side with miles yet to hike.
- lacaprup

So literally Buffalo fall?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
I like Horvat for the Sabres. Love the idea, in fact. I'd do a rent-to-own at the TDL. Use a top 10 1st and be done with it.

The other day I stated I'd rather wait for UFA but I doubt he'd be available to us.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Oct 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
the most miserable bills game I ever went to didn't even involve snow

it was late november 1988

we beat the jets 9-6 in ot to clinch the afc east

36 degrees and steady rain

- homiedclown

Homie, wasn't that a game the goal posts came down?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
IIRC, part of the talk was to host soccer, hence going with natural grass.
- ImThatGuy


Yeah, that was mentioned already in one of the studies
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
So literally Buffalo fall?
- ImThatGuy


Yep
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 27 @ 11:48 AM ET
Homie, wasn't that a game the goal posts came down?
- Hatboro_Swords

yup

I was on eyewitness news that night, 1 of 2 times

other time was polar bear swim with a can of blue on a float in lake ontario
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
yup

I was on eyewitness news that night, 1 of 2 times

other time was polar bear swim with a can of blue on a float in lake ontario

- homiedclown


Nut! That's too cold for me.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
89 if you're out there what's going on with our league?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 12:08 PM ET
Asplund benched

Boom
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Oct 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
Not quite shocking, but I'm pretty surprised.

Now, my question is where does the almighty Sabres analytics department fall on this?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 27 @ 12:10 PM ET
Asplund benched

Boom

- lacaprup

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