Buying out OEL would be an all time new low for the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito

What a frickin mess the whole team is. Benning and his sidekick created such a mess. It’s going to take years to clean it up. Aquilini gets what he deserves. Idiot!!!

Buy out Oliver Ekman-Larsson.
- manvanfan

And replace him with what? Not going to get a better option for less than 6m+ and even at 7m your not getting much of an upgrade, but have extra cap on top of that. We have no youth ready to take those minutes for cheaper either.

Buying out OEL would be an all time new low for the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito

Man what a (frank)ing sendoff that trade was. Cements his place as worse GM in history.

Depends on how you view Miller and how our rebuild is going to go. Colorado did a "rebuild" when they sold off O'Reilly and Duchene(a couple other trades I think as well) they sucked for like 2 seasons after and then started to dominate.

Sell Horvat, Kuzmenko, Garland(Boeser plz) for younger assets/picks and develop the system to compete again. Miller as a winger for w/e centre we get in the top 5 this year will work well. we have young assets with potential and young players turning into Vets(like EP). I think the rebuild will be quicker like Coloardo's, but we need to keep good players on it. I do prefer to resign Horvat and trade Miller, but management chose Miller over Horvat.
- Retinalz

Right, a whole new set of soft players because of... wait for it.... BPA.

For any rebuild we need competent scouts and management. There's where it starts before they gut this team.

Buying out OEL would be an all time new low for the canucks.
- bloatedmosquito

Right in line with trading a 3rd and then a 2nd to acquire and get rid of Richardinson.

And replace him with what? Not going to get a better option for less than 6m+ and even at 7m your not getting much of an upgrade, but have extra cap on top of that. We have no youth ready to take those minutes for cheaper either.
- Retinalz

Losing with him, not too worried about losing without him.

What a frickin mess the whole team is. Benning and his sidekick created such a mess. It’s going to take years to clean it up. Aquilini gets what he deserves. Idiot!!!
- Pacificgem

New management doing the exact same thing and already bogged down their options with Boeser, Miller, Mikheyev's $20m per season... trading picks for garbage and picking soft wingers based on their wrist shot for their top pick when the team desperately needs young top 4 D.

Time to stop whining about Benning. The new management has had ample time to get the ball rolling on his mistakes and all they did was grab the shovel from Benning and keep digging.

New management doing the exact same thing and already bogged down their options with Boeser, Miller, Mikheyev's $20m per season... trading picks for garbage and picking soft wingers based on their wrist shot for their top pick when the team desperately needs young top 4 D.

Time to stop whining about Benning. The new management has had ample time to get the ball rolling on his mistakes and all they did was grab the shovel from Benning and keep digging.
- boonerbuck

Agree, looks like more of the same, but I’ll never stop complaining about the guy who was arguably the worst GM in NHL history.

New management doing the exact same thing and already bogged down their options with Boeser, Miller, Mikheyev's $20m per season... trading picks for garbage and picking soft wingers based on their wrist shot for their top pick when the team desperately needs young top 4 D.

Time to stop whining about Benning. The new management has had ample time to get the ball rolling on his mistakes and all they did was grab the shovel from Benning and keep digging.
- boonerbuck

Current Canuck Management Group During Last Off Season

“Look on the bright side, if you just woke up from a decade long coma, you haven’t missed anything. #Canucks”

45-21-9 the rest of the way = 101 pts, likely needed for 3rd in the division. That is 0.660 pts%

Agree, looks like more of the same, but I’ll never stop complaining about the guy who was arguably the worst GM in NHL history.
- Pacificgem

Yeah, Gillis sucked.

45-21-9 the rest of the way = 101 pts, likely needed for 3rd in the division. That is 0.660 pts%
- 1970vintage

It is what it is.

Yeah, Gillis sucked.
- manvanfan

Sure, at parts of the job. But he won two Presidents Trophy’s and went to game seven of the finals. Yes he inherited a team ready to compete but he was the GM during the most successful era in the teams 50+ year history. I don’t think I look at them in the same light.

Agree, looks like more of the same, but I’ll never stop complaining about the guy who was arguably the worst GM in NHL history.
- Pacificgem

Huge exaggeration. He was terrible, agreed. But how soon you forgot that I crushed your narrative about his record being the worse as a Canuck even.

You want to talk about NHL history, take a look at some of the poop shows over time starting with the Coyotes, Sabres or spanning back to say the early days of the Devils etc... lots of garbage managements. Benning started off with a lot less to work with than this current group btw who leave me baffled on their approach. Took their best asset at getting the fix started and locked him down til he's 37 at $8m per... and there was no NTC in the way like Benning had to deal with across the roster... not even Benning went that far.

Sure, at parts of the job. But he won two Presidents Trophy’s and went to game seven of the finals. Yes he inherited a team ready to compete but he was the GM during the most successful era in the teams 50+ year history. I don’t think I look at them in the same light.
- Pacificgem

He did, but they were still a team that had missed the playoffs 2 out of 3 years prior. The system wasn't quite bursting with talent when he came aboard, maybe the 2 of the most prominent guys to join the club from within were Burrows and Tanev. He did turn Schneider into Bo.

He had to fill in the roster from outside as well.

Huge exaggeration. He was terrible, agreed. But how soon you forgot that I crushed your narrative about his record being the worse as a Canuck even.

You want to talk about NHL history, take a look at some of the poop shows over time starting with the Coyotes, Sabres or spanning back to say the early days of the Devils etc... lots of garbage managements. Benning started off with a lot less to work with than this current group btw who leave me baffled on their approach. Took their best asset at getting the fix started and locked him down til he's 37 at $8m per... and there was no NTC in the way like Benning had to deal with across the roster... not even Benning went that far.

- boonerbuck

Coyotes are about to win their second game….with an AHL roster. What the actual fuk!!

Coyotes are about to win their second game….with an AHL roster. What the actual fuk!!
- Pacificgem

Well if that doesn't scream manager of the year, what does?

Well if that doesn't scream manager of the year, what does?

- boonerbuck

It’s coaching, all coaching. You can have a less than adequate roster and have their compete level very high.

That said, Rutherford and Allvin have given Boudreau a worse roster than Benning gave him.

Right in line with trading a 3rd and then a 2nd to acquire and get rid of Richardinson.
- manvanfan

I wish.

OEL (Arizona retains 12%) and Garland for our 2022 1st round pick (9th OA), 2022 2nd round pick, LE, Beagle, Roussel, and 2023 7th round pick.

Then the team signs Garland to a 5 year/$25m contract. Expires before 2026/27 season.
OEL is currently on an 8 year/$66m contract. Expires before 2027/28 season.

If you buy out OEL at season end then you're on the hook for a cap hit of roughly $2m per season until 2028-29.

I think the mistake was made so you just need to ride it out and hope he gets injured.

I wish.

OEL (Arizona retains 12%) and Garland for our 2022 1st round pick (9th OA), 2022 2nd round pick, LE, Beagle, Roussel, and 2023 7th round pick.

Then the team signs Garland to a 5 year/$25m contract. Expires before 2026/27 season.
OEL is currently on an 8 year/$66m contract. Expires before 2027/28 season.

If you buy out OEL at season end then you're on the hook for a cap hit of roughly $2m per season until 2028-29.

I think the mistake was made so you just need to ride it out and hope he gets injured.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't think you can waste the next 4 years hoping OEL gets injured.

Unless they plan on tanking and not playing anyone they draft to not waste contract years.

Dylan Guenther 3 points in 5 games as a rookie. Conor Garland 2 points in 6 games getting paid 4.95M AAV

Thank god management was able to set the perfect opening day roster to maximize their LTIR relief. It's paying huge dividends now. Imagine where we would have been without it.

I don't think you can waste the next 4 years hoping OEL gets injured.

Unless they plan on tanking and not playing anyone they draft to not waste contract years.

Dylan Guenther 3 points in 5 games as a rookie. Conor Garland 2 points in 6 games getting paid 4.95M AAV
- manvanfan

Five years. This one plus four more. Unless you can trade him without giving up draft picks or retaining salary you just have to ride it out.

Another gem.

Five years. This one plus four more. Unless you can trade him without giving up draft picks or retaining salary you just have to ride it out.
- 1970vintage

I can't see it unless they plan on tanking for the next 4 years.