The latest version of the Canucks just makes me more appreciative of the 2010/11 team. Call guys like Kesler, Burrows, Lapierre, Bieksa all the names but at least they had swagger and attitude. They may have crossed that line a few times but that’s what winners have to do.

I miss rooting for winners. I hate having to root for losers.
- bloatedmosquito

Imagine having to play for losers.

80 mgs
Sleepy gummies.

- K-man25

Dummy Gummies

Could be... and maybe they think Bruce is also mentally weak. He's made some very questionable decisions from the late preseason on. Stands in front of the cameras talking about how they are mentally weak... team has had a players only meeting only 3 games in. Followed up with Bruce sitting one of the better player efforts on the team. Lot's of blame to spread around...
- boonerbuck

Is sitting Garland that big of a deal? TBH, not a big fan of the little guy. Just another complimentary player.

What are Bruce’s questionable decisions? I know you were not a fan of the rosters during the preseason (and you were right to question it) but that’s typical Canuck MO. I believe that management purposely limits core player minutes during preseason for fear of burning them out and/or injury. Plus, if you are going to experiment a bit, do it during the first 10 games.

Bruce is known as a player’s coach. I would find it hard to believe that any player would have a problem with him. I mean, most players have been in doghouses before, weird coaching behaviour should be nothing new.

I’m getting the feeling our group of players need to adjust attitudes and start behaving like a team. Unfortunately, I don’t think Bo or JT are up to the task of getting this group to be a team.

But this time we hired one of the most experienced GM's with 3 cups under his belt as the President. Rather than a rookie Pres to go with a rookie GM.
- Retinalz

I endorsed the Rutherford hiring but having g said that I also know what to expect. Allvin was a wild card I didn't know much about until his scouting history came up. Hopefully they both work out but having some doubts. Patience.

4 games in and the draft is the focus.

- boonerbuck

lol we are basically back to the same spot in here under Green early last year. Miller is a cancer, Hughes Meh, Bo meh Trade Boeser Demko make a f'n save. At least Petey has shown up. Just waiting for the rest of the club hope it isn't too late.

The latest version of the Canucks just makes me more appreciative of the 2010/11 team. Call guys like Kesler, Burrows, Lapierre, Bieksa all the names but at least they had swagger and attitude. They may have crossed that line a few times but that’s what winners have to do.

I miss rooting for winners. I hate having to root for losers.
- bloatedmosquito

That team would bully this team even with AV coaching.

Could be... and maybe they think Bruce is also mentally weak. He's made some very questionable decisions from the late preseason on. Stands in front of the cameras talking about how they are mentally weak... team has had a players only meeting only 3 games in. Followed up with Bruce sitting one of the better player efforts on the team. Lot's of blame to spread around...
- boonerbuck

I'll give you the preseason thing. Some odd stuff there. And even though I've advocated Trading Garland and Pearson since last season I do think Boudreau made a mistake by sitting him (Garland) and it does send the wrong message IMO. Like AV Boudreau has been known for his doghouses but did not expect healthy scratches 3 games in.

Is sitting Garland that big of a deal? TBH, not a big fan of the little guy. Just another complimentary player.

What are Bruce’s questionable decisions? I know you were not a fan of the rosters during the preseason (and you were right to question it) but that’s typical Canuck MO. I believe that management purposely limits core player minutes during preseason for fear of burning them out and/or injury. Plus, if you are going to experiment a bit, do it during the first 10 games.

Bruce is known as a player’s coach. I would find it hard to believe that any player would have a problem with him. I mean, most players have been in doghouses before, weird coaching behaviour should be nothing new.

I’m getting the feeling our group of players need to adjust attitudes and start behaving like a team. Unfortunately, I don’t think Bo or JT are up to the task of getting this group to be a team.
- bloatedmosquito

I do think sitting Garland has a negative effect especially if these players are as fragile as you say. Dog housing the wrong players can't be a good thing when there are ones who are not pulling their weight or are an anchor like Joshua for example.

Like I said, there is plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaches management and owner...

Can’t blame them Tanev, Toffoli and Markstrom are 3-0

- K-man25

Markstrom 2-0.

#simplemathson

You must be so excited about the prospects of the Flames winning the Presidents’ Trophy.
- bloatedmosquito

I know better than to get too excited this early in the season. Just pointing out that the Canucks haven’t made the playoffs even as a bubble team since they let those 3 walk for nada.

The latest version of the Canucks just makes me more appreciative of the 2010/11 team. Call guys like Kesler, Burrows, Lapierre, Bieksa all the names but at least they had swagger and attitude. They may have crossed that line a few times but that’s what winners have to do.

I miss rooting for winners. I hate having to root for losers.
- bloatedmosquito

That 2011 club was the best Canucks club we have ever seen IMO. Aside from Kesler/Burrows antics from time/time which got tiresome and embarrassing the club was rich with Winners. Even Lou for a short period before he started the big chokes.

That team would bully this team even with AV coaching.
- Nucker101

lol 100%

Kes
Lappy
Torres
Bieska
Rome

They would dummy this current club.

Not surebif people remember the pouting by the players, over not re-signing Tanev, Toffoli and Markstrom.
I thought it was obvious back then how mentally weak these group is.

Starts with Miller and Hughes.
- Reubenkincade

I can kind of understand the Tanev and Marky pouting, especially Marky.

I remember this time in bantam, we had this kid who was a great goalie. It’s hard to find a really good bantam goalie! Anyway, his grades were bad so his parents punished him by not letting him play. The whole team was devastated. We knew how average we were without him. Didn’t win another game that season.

Tanev was just the guy that everyone likes and was a good fit for Hughes when healthy.

I do agree about Miller. Love the talent, not a fan of the person. I think there’s a reason why he’s been bounced from a few teams. I get the dumb yank vibe from him.

Could be... and maybe they think Bruce is also mentally weak. He's made some very questionable decisions from the late preseason on. Stands in front of the cameras talking about how they are mentally weak... team has had a players only meeting only 3 games in. Followed up with Bruce sitting one of the better player efforts on the team. Lot's of blame to spread around...
- boonerbuck

I don't disagree with you about the pre-season and some other decisions, including who he uses on the PK, or maybe it is who he doesn't use on the PK, the over-playing of his offensive players, putting players on ice to win a key draw, who can't win a key faceoff, if their life depended on it, taking out defensemen, after playing them 2nd most the game before.
He is an offensive players coach.

I can kind of understand the Tanev and Marky pouting, especially Marky.

I remember this time in bantam, we had this kid who was a great goalie. It’s hard to find a really good bantam goalie! Anyway, his grades were bad so his parents punished him by not letting him play. The whole team was devastated. We knew how average we were without him. Didn’t win another game that season.

Tanev was just the guy that everyone likes and was a good fit for Hughes when healthy.

I do agree about Miller. Love the talent, not a fan of the person. I think there’s a reason why he’s been bounced from a few teams. I get the dumb yank vibe from him.
- bloatedmosquito

Kesler had that too after a time. And remember Kesler threw this club under the bus after the blowout by the Kings in 2012. He didn't want to be here it was all over town. Should have moved him that Summer but Gillis had aspirations of getting back to the SCF which was a pipe dream.

lol 100%

Kes
Lappy
Torres
Bieska
Rome

They would dummy this current club.


- LordHumungous

Can you imagine what the 2010/11 twins would do to this defence? holy crap that would be fun to watch!

Can you imagine what the 2010/11 twins would do to this defence? holy crap that would be fun to watch!
- bloatedmosquito

Insane. Would pretty much be scoring at will lol

I do think sitting Garland has a negative effect especially if these players are as fragile as you say. Dog housing the wrong players can't be a good thing when there are ones who are not pulling their weight or are an anchor like Joshua for example.

Like I said, there is plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaches management and owner...
- boonerbuck

What kind of message does it send by benching a minimum salary plug? Jack sh!t. They should bench Brock next. Then Hughes. Then Milller

I do think sitting Garland has a negative effect especially if these players are as fragile as you say. Dog housing the wrong players can't be a good thing when there are ones who are not pulling their weight or are an anchor like Joshua for example.

Like I said, there is plenty of blame to go around. Players, coaches management and owner...
- boonerbuck

I’m just not ready to blame Bruce yet. I’ll wait to see something egregious before laying blame at the feet of the fat man.

I can kind of understand the Tanev and Marky pouting, especially Marky.

I remember this time in bantam, we had this kid who was a great goalie. It’s hard to find a really good bantam goalie! Anyway, his grades were bad so his parents punished him by not letting him play. The whole team was devastated. We knew how average we were without him. Didn’t win another game that season.

Tanev was just the guy that everyone likes and was a good fit for Hughes when healthy.

I do agree about Miller. Love the talent, not a fan of the person. I think there’s a reason why he’s been bounced from a few teams. I get the dumb yank vibe from him.
- bloatedmosquito

The Tanev decision was what surprised me most. Sure he has dealt with injuries almost every year, but that has a lot to do with how hard he plays, game in game out.
I didn't think some of the players should have had their lower lips dragging on the ground, because management made some decisions to move in a different direction.
I remember the glee in here, being lead by Nucker when they acquired Nate Schmidt that same off-season. He was going to be so much better than Tanev. Lol

The Tanev decision was what surprised me most. Sure he has dealt with injuries almost every year, but that has a lot to do with how hard he plays, game in game out.
I didn't think some of the players should have had their lower lips dragging on the ground, because management made some decisions to move in a different direction.
I remember the glee in here, being lead by Nucker when they acquired Nate Schmidt that same off-season. He was going to be so much better than Tanev. Lol
- Reubenkincade

I forgot about Sh!tty Schmidty, was that a Benning move?

I forgot about Sh!tty Schmidty, was that a Benning move?
- K-man25

Yup.

What kind of message does it send by benching a minimum salary plug? Jack sh!t. They should bench Brock next. Then Hughes. Then Milller
- CanuckDon

I agree about benching someone of significance. If I was Garland it would be telling teammates to “smarten the fuck up and play better! I’m out there busting my ass and I’m the one that has to sit!”

Players don’t have to like the coach but they do need to respect them. Bruce has been in the game for a long time, got to respect the track record and longevity.

The first step to solving any problem, is admitting there is one. I don’t think we’re there yet.
- Pacificgem

It takes 5 blown multi goal leads then ... 6 ... 7?

I agree about benching someone of significance. If I was Garland it would be telling teammates to “smarten the fuck up and play better! I’m out there busting my ass and I’m the one that has to sit!”

Players don’t have to like the coach but they do need to respect them. Bruce has been in the game for a long time, got to respect the track record and longevity.
- bloatedmosquito

Absolutely. The players raved about Bruce at the end of the season. To suggest they have turned on him or are crying about Garland sitting after 4 games is insane. 🛀 🧂