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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 16 @ 8:56 PM ET
Friedman: “I have to say this. So I went on Don Taylor and Rick Dhaliwal’s show, I go on every two weeks, and I want to say thanks to them because they donate my earnings to the Canucks Autism Network, which I’m proud to donate too, and I said that one of the comparables there I think is Couturier. That it is Couturier, $7.5 . And people were like, Bo Horvat should be in the 6’s.

Marek: “No.”
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 16 @ 8:57 PM ET
Friedman: “And I said, ‘are you guys nuts?’ Do you think, look at where contracts are going here for centers. Do you really think you’re going to get Horvat in the six millions? Come on.

It’s starting with seven at least, and we’ll see where it goes. Now, I don’t know if it’s going to get to eight . I don’t know that.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
Friedman: “And I said, ‘are you guys nuts?’ Do you think, look at where contracts are going here for centers. Do you really think you’re going to get Horvat in the six millions? Come on.

It’s starting with seven at least, and we’ll see where it goes. Now, I don’t know if it’s going to get to eight . I don’t know that.

- Reubenkincade

Trade his ass
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
Trade his ass
- Pacificgem


Somethings gotta give.

Boeser, Garland, JTM, Bo...
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 16 @ 9:18 PM ET
Somethings gotta give.

Boeser, Garland, JTM, Bo...

- dbot

Who are 4 members of the best top 9 in the league Alex.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:19 PM ET
Podkolzin-Miller-Garland
Pearson-Horvat-Boeser
Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Lazar/Mikheyev
Joshua-Aman-Höglander

Swapping wingers for Horvat and Miller.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
Who are 4 members of the best top 9 in the league Alex.
- K-man25


Some top 9s are just too beautiful for this world...
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 16 @ 9:25 PM ET
Somethings gotta give.

Boeser, Garland, JTM, Bo...

- dbot

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 16 @ 9:43 PM ET
Some top 9s are just too beautiful for this world...

- dbot

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Friedman: “I have to say this. So I went on Don Taylor and Rick Dhaliwal’s show, I go on every two weeks, and I want to say thanks to them because they donate my earnings to the Canucks Autism Network, which I’m proud to donate too, and I said that one of the comparables there I think is Couturier. That it is Couturier, $7.5 . And people were like, Bo Horvat should be in the 6’s.

Marek: “No.”

- Reubenkincade


Those turkeys earlier said Boeser got fair money.... so they think Bo and Boeser are comparable players?

Is Boeser one of the top face off C's in the league? No. Is he even a C? No. Has he ever scored 30 goals? No. Is he a big playoff performer? No. Does he play near top minutes in the league for a forward? No. Does he get assigned toughest match ups in shut down roles? No. Has he ever left money on the table in his contracts like Bo has? Not even close... in fact, he takes a share of cap space needed for better players.

I would love to see Horvat sign for something in the 6 range but with Boeser as a team comparable and too many league wide comparable making money north of 7... it aint going to happen.

Management made it's choice... instead of Miller and Horvat... it's Boeser and Miller. Why? because they couldn't bring themselves to lose player control over Boeser. Well congrats... you have control over a soft one dimensional player who is grossly overpaid on a team that has to make decisions on whether they can now afford their better players.

I said this before... if creating $1.6m in cap space is worth giving up a 2nd rounder... how is losing player control over Boeser not worth $6.65m worth of cap space? This management is so backwards.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Trade his ass
- Pacificgem


As I said earlier, they would be doing Bo a favour.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 16 @ 9:51 PM ET
Those turkeys earlier said Boeser got fair money.... so they think Bo and Boeser are comparable players?

Is Boeser one of the top face off C's in the league? No. Is he even a C? No. Has he ever scored 30 goals? No. Is he a big playoff performer? No. Does he play near top minutes in the league for a forward? No. Does he get assigned toughest match ups in shut down roles? No. Has he ever left money on the table in his contracts like Bo has? Not even close... in fact, he takes a share of cap space needed for better players.

I would love to see Horvat sign for something in the 6 range but with Boeser as a team comparable and too many league wide comparable making money north of 7... it aint going to happen.

Management made it's choice... instead of Miller and Horvat... it's Boeser and Miller. Why? because they couldn't bring themselves to lose player control over Boeser. Well congrats... you have control over a soft one dimensional player who is grossly overpaid on a team that has to make decisions on whether they can now afford their better players.

I said this before... if creating $1.6m in cap space is worth giving up a 2nd rounder... how is losing player control over Boeser not worth $6.65m worth of cap space. This management is so backwards.

- boonerbuck


Although I agree with a lot of this. Why can’t they have Bo as well? Cap is going up in the next few years.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:52 PM ET
As I said earlier, they would be doing Bo a favour.
- Reubenkincade

He’d fit in well in Ottawa.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 16 @ 9:58 PM ET
Although I agree with a lot of this. Why can’t they have Bo as well? Cap is going up in the next few years.
- K-man25


Because Bo's contract is up at the end of this season not in a few years. Petey is going to get a raise as well the season after. They were never going to be able to afford three 30+ goal centers and bring in the type of D they need all under the cap over the next two seasons at the same time as shoveling this kind of money at Boeser. A 5 year old with a Fisher Price calculator could figure that out.

People are getting ahead of themselves on the cap limit increasing down the road. Too much can happen with Covid quietly still an upcoming issue and this world war that is looking more and more likely by the month.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:59 PM ET
Who are 4 members of the best top 9 in the league Alex.
- K-man25

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
Special team woes are a deflating problem. Very disappointed in a lethargic PP & the the shorties. If the PP was even more reasonable the PK wouldn’t look as bad being could’ve salvaged at least 1 point or even 2.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Somethings gotta give.

Boeser, Garland, JTM, Bo...

- dbot

Not liking the chemistry on the lines. There is simply not enough offence & the backcheck mediocre.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
Special team woes are a deflating problem. Very disappointed in a lethargic PP & the the shorties. If the PP was even more reasonable the PK wouldn’t look as bad being could’ve salvaged at least 1 point or even 2.
- Nighthawk


i'll raise this IF to 4 points!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 16 @ 10:18 PM ET
Not liking the chemistry on the lines. There is simply not enough offence & the backcheck mediocre.
- Nighthawk


Coach BB agrees.
As mentioned in the blog they're swapping the wingers for JTM and BoHo

Pearson-Horvat-Boeser
Podkolzin-Miller-Garland
Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Lazar
Joshua-Aman-Höglander


When Miky is back, Hoglander or Lazar sit...until we demand that Pearson, Brock, JTM take a seat.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 16 @ 10:22 PM ET
He’d fit in well in Ottawa.
- Pacificgem


He would fit nicely on many teams.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 16 @ 10:38 PM ET
i'll raise this IF to 4 points!
- dbot

I wanted to say 3 lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 16 @ 10:41 PM ET
Coach BB agrees.
As mentioned in the blog they're swapping the wingers for JTM and BoHo

Pearson-Horvat-Boeser
Podkolzin-Miller-Garland
Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Lazar
Joshua-Aman-Höglander


When Miky is back, Hoglander or Lazar sit...until we demand that Pearson, Brock, JTM take a seat.

- dbot

I’m thinking Pod needs to be better featured…

Pod Petey Kuz
Pearson Miller Joshua
Garland Bo Boeser
Lazar Aman Hog
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 17 @ 12:11 AM ET
I’m thinking Pod needs to be better featured…

Pod Petey Kuz
Pearson Miller Joshua
Garland Bo Boeser
Lazar Aman Hog

- Nighthawk


I can't imagine giving Joshua more than 4rth line minutes. He's a slug. Much needed physical play but is he slow compared to everyone else on the team.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 17 @ 5:27 AM ET
I wonder if Miller really isn’t better suited to play on the wing.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 17 @ 5:30 AM ET
Friedman: “And I said, ‘are you guys nuts?’ Do you think, look at where contracts are going here for centers. Do you really think you’re going to get Horvat in the six millions? Come on.

It’s starting with seven at least, and we’ll see where it goes. Now, I don’t know if it’s going to get to eight . I don’t know that.

- Reubenkincade


I still think the common ground will be 7 x $7 ($49m) or 8 x $6.4(ish). The extra year nets the player an extra $2+million and brings the cap number for the team down by almost a min wage player.
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