Logan Mailloux has paid his dept to society according to the laws of Sweden, if it had been the other way around you would be telling him to man up and its not a big deal.

And yes women lie out their ass to get big money settlements, it is why most major organizations with a brain have settlements funds as it costs more to fight them in court even when they win. Never believe women without evidence. 3 recent high profile cases illustrate this exactly: Amber herd vs Depp, Evander Kane and Virtanen.
- Mithos

1- I totally agree about Mailloux, I'm actually glad he got the contract, and I hope he stays with the habs. My point is the comment posted didn't really have anything to do with that at all.

2- Sure, women lie, but so do men, it's a case by case. To say that women lie because "look at Amber Heard" is really absurd and pointless. And personally I find it's rather awkward to talk about ALL women like that, the same way it wouldn't be okay to put all men in the same basket.

3- Sorry I've ever said anything, if you guys agree with this rhetoric I find it's a bit (frank)ed up, but whatever, I'm just a dumbass habs fan, never mind me.

I didn't realize Armstrong was willing to make a special deal with you because he wants to fleece everyone else.

You should actually read what I posted. If you keep Sanderson on the left side then you either play him or Sanderson or Chabot on the third pair. Otherwise you are playing one of them on the right side in which case you are blocking JBD and Thomson. There are only 2 sides - right or left.
- Whatisavailable

Either way you're trading one of them in the trade most likely and the other one doesnt get forced up the line up too quick. Not a bad problem to have. And sure you're giving up assets. Doesn't mean you're getting fleeced. Reports are the price is coming down slightly. We don't know if it's a fleecing until the trade is done. You give up assets to get assets. Having depth on defence is valuable. And what I'm proposing is Sanderson on 3rd pair and 2nd pp, not bad for a couple seasons. Think sergachev or fabbro. Both on very successful defensive teams.

Hey guys, just wanted to share this gem that one of your fellow posters left in the habs thread recently, the one about signing Logan Mailloux:


"These liberated, predatory girls (I can't say what they really are or I will get banned) go out and get trashed and then are embarrassed when Granny gets to see what they really are so they put on their oh so innocent, virginal pigtails and try to destroy a young man's career and they get total support from the whole friggin lot of you.

You are the reason Hockey Canada chooses to pay off the gold diggers that prey on young men in all professional sports because all they need is the allegation without evidence of any kind and that's more than enough for the whole nauseating, sanctimonious, virtue signaling bunch of you.

In this most recent case it was the step father who saw the dollar signs and decided to try and cash in."

- Whatisavailable



I just thought you might wanted to know, because I find this kind of comment a bit concerning, and I'm sure that not every senators fan in here agrees with this either. That is all, have a nice evening everyone.
- Pat1993

You are right that this is from a very minor part of the fanbase and I find his beliefs very disgusting. It's beliefs like this that make us need the culture change we do.

1- I totally agree about Mailloux, I'm actually glad he got the contract, and I hope he stays with the habs. My point is the comment posted didn't really have anything to do with that at all.

2- Sure, women lie, but so do men, it's a case by case. To say that women lie because "look at Amber Heard" is really absurd and pointless. And personally I find it's rather awkward to talk about ALL women like that, the same way it wouldn't be okay to put all men in the same basket.

3- Sorry I've ever said anything, if you guys agree with this rhetoric I find it's a bit (frank)ed up, but whatever, I'm just a dumbass habs fan, never mind me.
- Pat1993

To address number 3....it's a very loud, vocal minority that agree with that rhetoric

You are right that this is from a very minor part of the fanbase and I find his beliefs very disgusting. It's beliefs like this that make us need the culture change we do.
- Jman6687

To address number 3....it's a very loud, vocal minority that agree with that rhetoric
- Jman6687

Thanks for the reply, I find it a bit reassuring... But living in Gatineau I already knew that this wasn't how all Sens fans think (in fact personally I don't even know anyone at all who feels this way loll..) which is why I felt it was appropriate to re-post it here.

You're right, it is a very loud minority, and social media amplifies it in every possible way. There's a reason though why the "red pill" discourse exists among men, and we need to find a balance in all of it so we don't fall into such extremes, imho. I have no clue how to do this exactly but talking about it would be a first step in the right direction I guess.

Hey guys, just wanted to share this gem that one of your fellow posters left in the habs thread recently, the one about signing Logan Mailloux:


"These liberated, predatory girls (I can't say what they really are or I will get banned) go out and get trashed and then are embarrassed when Granny gets to see what they really are so they put on their oh so innocent, virginal pigtails and try to destroy a young man's career and they get total support from the whole friggin lot of you.

You are the reason Hockey Canada chooses to pay off the gold diggers that prey on young men in all professional sports because all they need is the allegation without evidence of any kind and that's more than enough for the whole nauseating, sanctimonious, virtue signaling bunch of you.

In this most recent case it was the step father who saw the dollar signs and decided to try and cash in."

- Whatisavailable



I just thought you might wanted to know, because I find this kind of comment a bit concerning, and I'm sure that not every senators fan in here agrees with this either. That is all, have a nice evening everyone.
- Pat1993

All professional sports teams run seminars for their newly drafted high end players warning them of the predatory women they will encounter who will befriend them in a bar or wherever and once invited back to the young man's room will scream rape. These seminars are not publicized because people like yourself would find them very concerning. To suggest that women can lie for money would cause a firestorm and everyone running them would have to resign, beat themselves with whips and beg for forgiveness.

There's no telling what went on in 2018 because none of us have any of the facts. The police at the time as well as the prosecutor apparently didn't feel there was sufficient evidence to pursue any legal action. The girl herself didn't want to pursue any legal action. It seems her stepfather saw things differently which is not all that surprising considering the easy money to be had.

Personally I think these sports organizations should take these things to court and that there should be very harsh penalties handed out to which ever party, accuser or defendant, is shown to be in the wrong. That's never going to happen because these cases are not often very simple or clear cut so sports organizations will just continue to make the payoffs in order to avoid the bad publicity that is generated by those who will automatically find the athlete guilty even if they are acquitted in a court of law.

The upper echelons of Hockey Canada can all resign but their replacements will just continue to do the same thing that all of their peers in every other sports organization do. It's what makes the most financial and PR sense.

In a completely separate case what that Mailloux kid did was stupid and in very poor taste but it wasn't the capital offense that has people such as yourself frothing at the mouth. If that girl had taken pictures of Mailloux and shared them with her friends no one would have given it a second thought.

Young women today plan with their friends which guys they're going to hook up with as they so elegantly put it or they go out and think nothing of hooking up with a stranger they meet in a bar or on some dating site which is fine. I was very grateful for those women when I was a young man and still hold a few fond memories but let's get real here. This is not your sheltered, naive, innocent flower we're talking about here and I'm pretty sure she will survive and has had many more hookups since. Leave that Mailloux kid alone.

All professional sports teams run seminars for their newly drafted high end players warning them of the predatory women they will encounter who will befriend them in a bar or wherever and once invited back to the young man's room will scream rape. These seminars are not publicized because people like yourself would find them very concerning. To suggest that women can lie for money would cause a firestorm and everyone running them would have to resign, beat themselves with whips and beg for forgiveness.

There's no telling what went on in 2018 because none of us have any of the facts. The police at the time as well as the prosecutor apparently didn't feel there was sufficient evidence to pursue any legal action. The girl herself didn't want to pursue any legal action. It seems her stepfather saw things differently which is not all that surprising considering the easy money to be had.

Personally I think these sports organizations should take these things to court and that there should be very harsh penalties handed out to which ever party, accuser or defendant, is shown to be in the wrong. That's never going to happen because these cases are not often very simple or clear cut so sports organizations will just continue to make the payoffs in order to avoid the bad publicity that is generated by those who will automatically find the athlete guilty even if they are acquitted in a court of law.

The upper echelons of Hockey Canada can all resign but their replacements will just continue to do the same thing that all of their peers in every other sports organization do. It's what makes the most financial and PR sense.

In a completely separate case what that Mailloux kid was stupid and in very poor taste but it wasn't the capital offense that has people such as yourself frothing at the mouth. If that girl had taken pictures of Mailloux and shared them with her friends no one would have given it a second thought.

Young women today plan with their friends which guys they're going to hook up with as they so elegantly put it or they go out and think nothing of hooking up with a stranger they meet in a bar or on some dating site which is fine. I was very grateful for those women when I was a young man and still hold a few fond memories but let's get real here. This is not your sheltered, naive, innocent flower we're talking about here and I'm pretty sure she will survive and has had many more hookups since. Leave that Mailloux kid alone.
- Whatisavailable

"There's no telling what went on in 2018 because none of us have any of the facts."...

this sure didn't stop you from posting the poop you did, as if you know exactly what happened, wtf.


"The girl herself didn't want to pursue any legal action. It seems her stepfather saw things differently which is not all that surprising considering the easy money to be had..."

It's pretty apparent that you are completely clueless as to how a woman or any victim of a sexual assault can feel in a situation like this, as though you are convinced that because she was hesitant about denouncing what happened automatically means she's lying and/or trying to take advantage of the whole thing.


"Leave that Mailloux kid alone."

you are mixing a bunch of things together, almost every poster in the habs thread believes he deserves a chance to play in MTL.

oh and also

This is not your sheltered, naive, innocent flower we're talking about here and I'm pretty sure she will survive and has had many more hookups since...


how the (frank) do you know this, exactly?

at this point I'm not even expecting a coherent or factual answer, I'm just amazed by your replies.

oh and also

This is not your sheltered, naive, innocent flower we're talking about here and I'm pretty sure she will survive and has had many more hookups since...


how the (frank) do you know this, exactly?

at this point I'm not even expecting a coherent or factual answer, I'm just amazed by your replies.
- Pat1993

The froth is just bubbling out of you. You can take my words and twist them into some macabre reflection of your own mental devices while you pursue your sacred mission to cleanse the world of all that offends the 24/7 rage machine. Everyone now knows how virtuous and pure and sensitive and noble you are and all womankind can now sleep in peace safe in the knowledge that you are watching over them.

The froth is just bubbling out of you. You can take my words and twist them into some macabre reflection of your own mental devices while you pursue your sacred mission to cleanse the world of all that offends the 24/7 rage machine. Everyone now knows how virtuous and pure and sensitive and noble you are and all womankind can now sleep in peace safe in the knowledge that you are watching over them.
- Whatisavailable

yes, I'm just white-knighting this. whatever bruh.

yes, I'm just white-knighting this. whatever bruh.
- Pat1993

I would encourage people to go take a look at the Habs thread in question paying particular attention to your many contributions. Just the first 3 or 4 pages should suffice. I think sanctimonious froth would be an accurate description. Don't go deleting things now, bruh!

I would encourage people to go take a look at the Habs thread in question paying particular attention to your many contributions. Just the first 3 or 4 pages should suffice. I think sanctimonious froth would be an accurate description. Don't go deleting things now, bruh!
- Whatisavailable

sure, I'm always open to talk about it if anyone feels I said something wrong.



obviously you can't even defend your own arguments anymore, so you've resorted to trying to discredit me. anyway I'm done here for real, but as much as this was a (frank)ed up conversation I did find it very fascinating.

Out of 32 teams this year (IMO)

12-13 Forward Group: 8th-16th best in the league

6-8 Defense Group: 10th-15th best in the league

2 Goalies: 18th-26th (even worse with Talbot out)

This explains a lot to me about this team. It's also where a lot of the $ is going. I'm not how much we can blame DJ Smith for his decisions - even though I am NOT sold on him long term with this team. I think he deserves at least 4 months to turn this team into a competitive team (unless they have a REALLY poor start to the season, then all bets are off)

1- I totally agree about Mailloux, I'm actually glad he got the contract, and I hope he stays with the habs. My point is the comment posted didn't really have anything to do with that at all.

2- Sure, women lie, but so do men, it's a case by case. To say that women lie because "look at Amber Heard" is really absurd and pointless. And personally I find it's rather awkward to talk about ALL women like that, the same way it wouldn't be okay to put all men in the same basket.

3- Sorry I've ever said anything, if you guys agree with this rhetoric I find it's a bit (frank)ed up, but whatever, I'm just a dumbass habs fan, never mind me.
- Pat1993

problem these fraudster who cry wolf to get cash hurt actual victims of rape and SA because people are less likely to believe them.

As for the 2018 case, in 2018 she flatly refuse to cooperate with both the police and hockey canada 3rd party investigation, it was not even her that complained to hockey canada, she nor her father/step-father went to the police, and file suit 3 years after the fact and settle out of court, so there was no police report filed so she could not be charged with filling a false police report and there was no trial so cannot be charged with perjury, funny how they never file police reports or actually go to trial.

you may call what Whatisavailable as rhetoric but what he is saying on a whole is the truth you just like the way he says it.

All professional sports teams run seminars for their newly drafted high end players warning them of the predatory women they will encounter who will befriend them in a bar or wherever and once invited back to the young man's room will scream rape. These seminars are not publicized because people like yourself would find them very concerning. To suggest that women can lie for money would cause a firestorm and everyone running them would have to resign, beat themselves with whips and beg for forgiveness.

There's no telling what went on in 2018 because none of us have any of the facts. The police at the time as well as the prosecutor apparently didn't feel there was sufficient evidence to pursue any legal action. The girl herself didn't want to pursue any legal action. It seems her stepfather saw things differently which is not all that surprising considering the easy money to be had.

Personally I think these sports organizations should take these things to court and that there should be very harsh penalties handed out to which ever party, accuser or defendant, is shown to be in the wrong. That's never going to happen because these cases are not often very simple or clear cut so sports organizations will just continue to make the payoffs in order to avoid the bad publicity that is generated by those who will automatically find the athlete guilty even if they are acquitted in a court of law.

The upper echelons of Hockey Canada can all resign but their replacements will just continue to do the same thing that all of their peers in every other sports organization do. It's what makes the most financial and PR sense.

In a completely separate case what that Mailloux kid did was stupid and in very poor taste but it wasn't the capital offense that has people such as yourself frothing at the mouth. If that girl had taken pictures of Mailloux and shared them with her friends no one would have given it a second thought.

Young women today plan with their friends which guys they're going to hook up with as they so elegantly put it or they go out and think nothing of hooking up with a stranger they meet in a bar or on some dating site which is fine. I was very grateful for those women when I was a young man and still hold a few fond memories but let's get real here. This is not your sheltered, naive, innocent flower we're talking about here and I'm pretty sure she will survive and has had many more hookups since. Leave that Mailloux kid alone.
- Whatisavailable

Bud, just stop.

My daughter was a victim of of sexual assault. You have no idea what is involved or what goes on within a person after this happens.

Guaranteed she didn't want to come forward because she was hurt and embarrassed and did not want her name out there because many out there like yourself will judge her to be at fault for putting herself in a vulnerable position.

It's a tough call whether to pursue this legally as the victim is gets to relieve this experience over again in a public forum. We chose not to pursue legal action but that doesn't mean I didn't want cut this kids balls off and shove them up his ***.

Now as a former minor pro hockey player, from the late 80's I can assure you that there was a hockey culture problem with attitudes about women. I can't say for sure about today as my hockey involvement is solely coaching my son's team. But events like what is being reported makes me think nothing has changed.

Bud, just stop.

My daughter was a victim of of sexual assault. You have no idea what is involved or what goes on within a person after this happens.

Guaranteed she didn't want to come forward because she was hurt and embarrassed and did not want her name out there because many out there like yourself will judge her to be at fault for putting herself in a vulnerable position.

It's a tough call whether to pursue this legally as the victim is gets to relieve this experience over again in a public forum. We chose not to pursue legal action but that doesn't mean I didn't want cut this kids balls off and shove them up his ***.

Now as a former minor pro hockey player, from the late 80's I can assure you that there was a hockey culture problem with attitudes about women. I can't say for sure about today as my hockey involvement is solely coaching my son's team. But events like what is being reported makes me think nothing has changed.
- Nimm

If what you say is true then both you and your daughter both have my deepest sympathy. Why you say that I would judge your daughter to be at fault for putting herself in a vulnerable position is beyond me.

I clearly stated that legal solutions are likely never going to happen because these cases are seldom simple or clear cut and part of the reason for that is exactly the type of thing that you and your daughter found yourselves faced with. Another thing that makes these cases so problematic is that it often seems to come down to a question of who are you going to believe and our legal system fortunately does not allow for legal judgement to be passed based solely on a hunch or bias or emotion.

Something I do object to is people characterizing these issues as somehow stemming from a dark and sinister "hockey culture" when we clearly should be addressing a broader societal culture that pervades all aspects of our every day lives and is a topic well beyond the scope of this hockey blog. This is terribly unfair to all those many really great, hard working, upstanding and dedicated people and athletes who make up this most wonderful aspect of our Canadian culture that we should all be justifiably proud of.

If what you say is true then both you and your daughter both have my deepest sympathy. Why you say that I would judge your daughter to be at fault for putting herself in a vulnerable position is beyond me.

I clearly stated that legal solutions are likely never going to happen because these cases are seldom simple or clear cut and part of the reason for that is exactly the type of thing that you and your daughter found yourselves faced with. Another thing that makes these cases so problematic is that it often seems to come down to a question of who are you going to believe and our legal system fortunately does not allow for legal judgement to be passed based solely on a hunch or bias or emotion.

Something I do object to is people characterizing these issues as somehow stemming from a dark and sinister "hockey culture" when we clearly should be addressing a broader societal culture that pervades all aspects of our every day lives and is a topic well beyond the scope of this hockey blog. This is terribly unfair to all those many really great, hard working, upstanding and dedicated people and athletes who make up this most wonderful aspect of our Canadian culture that we should all be justifiably proud of.
- Whatisavailable

I have to say, this kind of post is way more coherent and interesting to read, instead of calling people who don't think the same way you are a “nauseating, sanctimonious, virtue-signalling bunch that are defending predatory girls"...

Just to understand though, when you say that our legal system fortunately does not allow for legal judgement to be passed based solely on a hunch or bias or emotion, wouldn't this mean that those who are innocent wouldn't be wrongly convicted under such circumstances?

And I agree to a certain extent with your point about "hockey culture", I think there is indeed a toxic mentality that is spreading and affecting young folks, but it isn't an issue only found specifically in the hockey world, it can manifest itself basically anywhere, so we have to look beyond the sport if we want something to change.

I have to say, this kind of post is way more coherent and interesting to read, instead of calling people who don't think the same way you are a “nauseating, sanctimonious, virtue-signalling bunch that are defending predatory girls"...

Just to understand though, when you say that our legal system fortunately does not allow for legal judgement to be passed based solely on a hunch or bias or emotion, wouldn't this mean that those who are innocent wouldn't be wrongly convicted under such circumstances?

And I agree to a certain extent with your point about "hockey culture", I think there is indeed a toxic mentality that is spreading and affecting young folks, but it isn't an issue only found specifically in the hockey world, it can manifest itself basically anywhere, so we have to look beyond the sport if we want something to change.
- Pat1993

Our judicial system obviously doesn't always work perfectly and is even often used as a weapon when corrupt people insinuate themselves into positions of power; but it's the best we have.