can only report what he;s being fed, but he did have Coots injury first

in any event, I suggest listening to it
- THE BLACK HAND

Bloggers and reporters often have an agenda. As well as personal issues as Therien clearly does. ASF is not exactly a proven source. I'm not buying it's an attitude issue.

It's a long way from knowing what each player is ultimately going to be. You do realize that Montreal sent Caufield to the minors last Nov. after a slow start? I think you underestimate the importance of a good 2 way puck moving top 4 defenseman. Especially on this team. A goal scorer can't score without the puck.
- MJL

Yes, I'm aware that he was sent down. I think part of that issue was coaching cause soon as St. Louis went there he blossomed. If York indeed turns into a good two way puck moving top 4 defender I will be fine with that, but he has a ways to go to be that guy from the looks of things. He looked very hesitant in the preseason games for some reason.

then break the news to Bundy and ASF, since youre so tied in, jackass
- THE BLACK HAND

Bundy? All that guy does is whine about the Flyers getting rid of him. He's had a major agenda against them ever since he was let go.

Bloggers and reporters often have an agenda. As well as personal issues as Therien clearly does. ASF is not exactly a proven source. I'm not buying it's an attitude issue.
- MJL

You can buy whatever you want, thats your prerogative but without listening to what they say about Torts, then youd be wasting your money

Bundy? All that guy does is whine about the Flyers getting rid of him. He's had a major agenda against them ever since he was let go.
- Phillywhiteout

and hes been spot on on many things so........ what else are you going to use as an excuse

We've been learning and will learn more of just how much players like Voracek and Giroux did help. The leadership issue has been and still is complete nonsense.
- MJL

This was my key statement made about Giroux:

"They left and same problems, but at least to me that was obvious anyway. They weren't the sole reason, but they also didn't help the situation either."

Meaning their leadership OR lack of didn't create the issues, but if they did try to change it then it had ZERO affect on the team.

I can't speak for everyone, but if I'm on a team, getting older and seeing others coasting then I am going full Kobe on them. I talk to them personally and if that doesn't work I call their ass out on every media source there is until they finally get it.

That is true.

But I think it's starting to get a bit old that all Flyer prospect don't ever hit their stride until the age of 27. Like you said many times, this is a skill league now, but more importantly it's a young league. Elites are breaking out at 18-19, superstars are becoming impactful at 20-22. No one has time for a 25-26 potential 3rd liner to figure it out.


- Glak18

It's extremely old and irritating. The Flyers just plain suck at it. Look at the confusing and contradictory statements made by the coaches on York. I don't trust the Flyers to develop a Chia pet. Lappariere is specifically troubling. I don't trust or believe in him as a developmental coach with the Flyers young players on the Phantoms. He is not impressive in any way. He has no future as an NHL coach. Why is he there? The Flyers need to also develop coaches. When is the last time they had an internal candidate for the NHL job? It's just a mess.

and hes been spot on on many things so........ what else are you going to use as an excuse
- THE BLACK HAND

Bundy may have an agenda, but one thing that can't be taken away from him is how accurate his rants are...again coming from source who was pretty tied into the organization.

Now you have to wonder if Taryn said something they didn't like or maybe she took good advice from someone got out of that dumpster fire as soon as she could.

You can buy whatever you want, thats your prerogative but without listening to what they say about Torts, then youd be wasting your money
- THE BLACK HAND

Honestly, what would I need them to tell me about Tortorella that isn't already known? Tortorella is so easy to read to know what he is doing. Starting with the farce of the disconnected locker room in the Summer before he even stepped into the Skate zone.

Yes, I'm aware that he was sent down. I think part of that issue was coaching cause soon as St. Louis went there he blossomed. If York indeed turns into a good two way puck moving top 4 defender I will be fine with that, but he has a ways to go to be that guy from the looks of things. He looked very hesitant in the preseason games for some reason.
- Phillywhiteout

When you read the conflicting comments coming from Flyers coaches. Do you think coaching is a part of it?

Caufield doesn't have a ways to go to be that 40 goal dynamic forward?

It's extremely old and irritating. The Flyers just plain suck at it. Look at the confusing and contradictory statements made by the coaches on York. I don't trust the Flyers to develop a Chia pet. Lappariere is specifically troubling. I don't trust or believe in him as a developmental coach with the Flyers young players on the Phantoms. He is not impressive in any way. He has no future as an NHL coach. Why is he there? The Flyers need to also develop coaches. When is the last time they had an internal candidate for the NHL job? It's just a mess.
- MJL

What confusing contradictory statements made on York? There were none.

When you read the conflicting comments coming from Flyers coaches. Do you think coaching is a part of it?

Caufield doesn't have a ways to go to be that 40 goal dynamic forward?
- MJL

What conflicting statements from coaches?

As a possible dominant NHL player. A top line forward that can score 40 goals every year. I see York as a mid level(3 or 4) defender. That means Caufield would be projected at a higher level.
- Phillywhiteout

Dominant? He scored 23 goals but was a minus 24 last season.

Bundy may have an agenda, but one thing that can't be taken away from him is how accurate his rants are...again coming from source who was pretty tied into the organization.

Now you have to wonder if Taryn said something they didn't like or maybe she took good advice from someone got out of that dumpster fire as soon as she could.
- Glak18

She got promoted. She’s going to be covering the Sixers and Phillies on NBCSP.

She got promoted. She’s going to be covering the Sixers and Phillies on NBCSP.
- Dkos

I liked Krystle too is she gone completely?

EDIT: she works for Clippers now

Dominant? He scored 23 goals but was a minus 24 last season.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, but he had a bad coach. He was much better when St. Louis took over and he will have a full year with him behind the bench this year. I fully expect him to take a run at 40 if he stays healthy. His +/- may still suck cause the team is pretty much a dumpster fire. They actually have lower odds to win the Cup than the Flyers do according to The Hockey News.

When you read the conflicting comments coming from Flyers coaches. Do you think coaching is a part of it?

Caufield doesn't have a ways to go to be that 40 goal dynamic forward?
- MJL

I have a feeling with a full year with St. Louis behind the bench and top line minutes he very well may be a 40 goal scorer this season.

I have a feeling with a full year with St. Louis behind the bench and top line minutes he very well may be a 40 goal scorer this season.
- Phillywhiteout

Yea, I got that but you didn't answer either question. You're not obligated to of course.

Yea, I got that but you didn't answer either question. You're not obligated to of course.
- MJL

I did answer the question. I don't think Caufield has far to go at all to be a dynamic 40 goal scorer in the NHL, but perhaps that's just me.

I forgot to answer the other question. Yes, I think coaching is a factor based on the discrepancies between the two coaches. He didn't look hesitant last season and I thought he did quite well for the most part. He looked very hesitant this preseason as I mentioned and coaching most likely was a factor when you are getting vastly differing opinions from your coaches.

You can call him a good player, my premise on moving him would be the same. It’s a tough situation, especially when the organization is making moves to “compete” when everyone else sees what’s going on.
- ClaudeFather

We have so many other problems to deal with. Getting rid of TS would be a big mistake. Someone with a lot more acumen than CTF needs to make that call.

I did answer the question. I don't think Caufield has far to go at all to be a dynamic 40 goal scorer in the NHL, but perhaps that's just me.

I forgot to answer the other question. Yes, I think coaching is a factor based on the discrepancies between the two coaches. He didn't look hesitant last season and I thought he did quite well for the most part. He looked very hesitant this preseason as I mentioned and coaching most likely was a factor when you are getting vastly differing opinions from your coaches.
- Phillywhiteout

What discrepancies?

I did answer the question. I don't think Caufield has far to go at all to be a dynamic 40 goal scorer in the NHL, but perhaps that's just me.

I forgot to answer the other question. Yes, I think coaching is a factor based on the discrepancies between the two coaches. He didn't look hesitant last season and I thought he did quite well for the most part. He looked very hesitant this preseason as I mentioned and coaching most likely was a factor when you are getting vastly differing opinions from your coaches.
- Phillywhiteout

So you don't think that there is a big difference between a 23 goal scorer and a 40 goal scorer?

We're in agreement on your final paragraph.

No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with such pedanticism, actually. It was a logical point, directed at the heart of the issue: that why Sanheim should be traded had been already pointed out.

Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return? The board was very pleasant to visit in your absence.
- PT21

Actually, this is precisely the kind of errant pedantry up with which this board should not put.

I did answer the question. I don't think Caufield has far to go at all to be a dynamic 40 goal scorer in the NHL, but perhaps that's just me.

I forgot to answer the other question. Yes, I think coaching is a factor based on the discrepancies between the two coaches. He didn't look hesitant last season and I thought he did quite well for the most part. He looked very hesitant this preseason as I mentioned and coaching most likely was a factor when you are getting vastly differing opinions from your coaches.
- Phillywhiteout

That’s not just you. Suzuki can create. Slafkovsky had a poor camp, but if that kid gets rolling after a stint in Laval, those three will make a dynamic top line with proper coaching.

Caufield will start putting up points before too long. Might take another year, but I think it’s gonna happen.

I was screaming for that pick. I understand why they did what they did, but I wanted that kid in orange.

He embodies the problem of social media: the fact that it is anonymous and costless makes it too attractive personally for those who should be going to the psychiatric ward instead. And this choice benefits the producers of social media, for they make money by volume not content.

The good news is that he can as much control himself as a junkie can control the craving for a fix. Which in turn means that he will get banned again soon.
- PT21

Frankly, if we all had more self-control, we would post less on this board. If these boards ran on "facts" and not "opinions," we would all have to do way more research than we would prefer in order to post here. Having said that, I think he provides more facts than many. Since he enjoys it and everyone else willingly joins in the various forms of repartee (should I have added an accent aigu?), let's hope no such bans are forthcoming. Cheers.