https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUbn5ss8j9c
- Flyers_01

That never gets old. I'd take that from the Flyers to go along with an abysmal season. At least their would be entertainment rather than games that just plain suck.

This seems like a violation or your rule #3 on the standards of debate

"3. Give the debater the benefit of doubt and address the larger issue. Stop trying to score cheap points like repeatedly bringing up irrelevant things. "
- MJL

No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with such pedanticism, actually. It was a logical point, directed at the heart of the issue: that why Sanheim should be traded had been already pointed out.

Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return? The board was very pleasant to visit in your absence.

You are going around in circles.
- BluehorseShoe64

It is more like this:

No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with such pedanticism, actually. It was a logical point, directed at the heart of the issue: that why Sanheim should be traded had been already pointed out.

Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return? The board was very pleasant to visit in your absence.
- PT21

He is a legend on this boards. And he has defended piss poor flyers for thousands of pages.

No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with such pedanticism, actually. It was a logical point, directed at the heart of the issue: that why Sanheim should be traded had been already pointed out.

Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return? The board was very pleasant to visit in your absence.
- PT21

You pressing the poster on why he replied as he did was pedantic, unnecessary and had nothing to do with the heart of the issue. The poster was simply looking to generate a conversation. His follow up was reasonable and even if you felt it wasn't, give the poster the benefit of the doubt and stick to the topic. Follow your own guidance and set an example.

What was the final vote tally for your election to spokesman?

Torts is right about that last part.

York shouldn't be satisfied playing like Andrew MacDonald.
- Tomahawk

The mixed messaging has already started, just like it did with Frost. You have Lappy telling the guy to make the easy, simple, routine plays. Now you have Torts telling him to attack and make plays. Then he's sent back to Lappy who is going to do what with his development? He wants him to play a different game then Tortorella.

The mixed messaging has already started, just like it did with Frost. You have Lappy telling the guy to make the easy, simple, routine plays. Now you have Torts telling him to attack and make plays. Then he's sent back to Lappy who is going to do what with his development? He wants him to play a different game then Tortorella.
- Flyerfan2868

It's really disturbing. I can see how it could confuse a player.

You pressing the poster on why he replied as he did was pedantic, unnecessary and had nothing to do with the heart of the issue. The poster was simply looking to generate a conversation.

What was the final vote tally for your election to spokesman?
- MJL

If I say: Couturier should be traded because of all players his absence would be the most impactful in tanking for Bedard.

And someone quotes my post, and asks: "but why do you think Couturier should be the one to be traded"" then pointing out that this answer has already been provided is not a sidebar: it is central.

And I did not press him. I was passing by and made an observation. No snark meant whatsoever. All further posts were in response to his ones.

Now (frank) off to my poop list, you pathetic clown.

He is a legend on this boards. And he has defended piss poor flyers for thousands of pages.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

He embodies the problem of social media: the fact that it is anonymous and costless makes it too attractive personally for those who should be going to the psychiatric ward instead. And this choice benefits the producers of social media, for they make money by volume not content.

The good news is that he can as much control himself as a junkie can control the craving for a fix. Which in turn means that he will get banned again soon.

For the most part it takes years for players to develop and become regular parts of an NHL lineup. The players that should be playing on this team right now are players Hextall drafted and for the most part that is what you see: Hart, Sandstrom, Provorov, Sanheim, Farabee, TK & Frost

The players Fletcher drafted are knocking on the door: York, Attard, Foerster and Desnoyers

I don't think its fair to indict Fletcher's drafting, it has been very good for the most part. Its all about the development of these players, and this is where the Flyers have openly admitted they have failed over the past several years.
- jd250

Caufield is skating on MTL's top line - so there is that

You pressing the poster on why he replied as he did was pedantic, unnecessary and had nothing to do with the heart of the issue. The poster was simply looking to generate a conversation. His follow up was reasonable and even if you felt it wasn't, give the poster the benefit of the doubt and stick to the topic. Follow your own guidance and set an example.

What was the final vote tally for your election to spokesman?
- MJL

The vote tally was 1... himself. In all of his perpetual arrogance, that's all he needs.

The vote tally was 1... himself. In all of his perpetual arrogance, that's all he needs.
- Letterkenney

Obviously!

If I say: Couturier should be traded because of all players his absence would be the most impactful in tanking for Bedard.

And someone quotes my post, and asks: "but why do you think Couturier should be the one to be traded"" then pointing out that this answer has already been provided is not a sidebar: it is central.

And I did not press him. I was passing by and made an observation. No snark meant whatsoever. All further posts were in response to his ones.

Now (frank) off to my poop list, you pathetic clown.
- PT21

No it is a sidebar and not at all central. The subject is trading Sanheim and that is what is central. Not your pointing out that an opinion was given. What you posted was not relevant and was not addressing the larger or central issue and was in violation of your own posted debate rules. As the poster stated, that means that the conversation can't continue further. Of course it can. The poster did not do what you are insinuating. What he did was offer up other options and another continuing point of view. It's pretty simple. One poster had his reasons and another poster countered with why does it have to be Sanheim. Offered other point of view of potentially moving another player instead and questioned if Sanheim is the player that should be moved. It was a reasonable response.

No it is a sidebar and not at all central. The subject is trading Sanheim and that is what is central. What you posted was not relevant and was not addressing the larger or central issue and was in violation of your own posted debate rules. As the poster stated, that means that the conversation can't continue further. Of course it can. The poster did not do what you are insinuating. What he did was offer up other options and another continuing point of view. It's pretty simple. One poster had his reasons and another poster countered with why does it have to be Sanheim. Offered other point of view of potentially moving another player instead and questioned if Sanheim is the player that should be moved. It was a reasonable response.
- MJL

Have you resorted to arguing about other peoples arguments? Go back in your hole 🤣

No, it has nothing whatsoever to do with such pedanticism, actually. It was a logical point, directed at the heart of the issue: that why Sanheim should be traded had been already pointed out.

Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return? The board was very pleasant to visit in your absence.
- PT21

Don't speak for all of us. In fact this place has been just as big a cesspool as it always is. Many still insulted him daily only he had no way to defend himself. Add to that all the other scumbags that have multiple accounts who come in here daily I would say there is no difference.

My advice would be if you just debate him on the issues and stay away from the personal attacks (ALWAYS started by others) this place would be much more pleasant.

And no, telling someone they are wrong is not a personal attack, though our society seems to be trending in that direction.

Don't speak for all of us. In fact this place has been just as big a cesspool as it always is. Many still insulted him daily only he had no way to defend himself. Add to that all the other scumbags that have multiple accounts who come in here daily I would say there is no difference.

My advice would be if you just debate him on the issues and stay away from the personal attacks (ALWAYS started by others) this place would be much more pleasant.

And no, telling someone they are wrong is not a personal attack, though our society seems to be trending in that direction.
- MBFlyerfan

Hmm, this is the Flyers board on HB, you sure you are in the right place.

Good post

Don't speak for all of us. In fact this place has been just as big a cesspool as it always is. Many still insulted him daily only he had no way to defend himself. Add to that all the other scumbags that have multiple accounts who come in here daily I would say there is no difference.

My advice would be if you just debate him on the issues and stay away from the personal attacks (ALWAYS started by others) this place would be much more pleasant.

And no, telling someone they are wrong is not a personal attack, though our society seems to be trending in that direction.
- MBFlyerfan

And which part of "Also, may I express the disappointment of many in your return" did you find equivalent to a claim to "speak for all of us"? Do you doubt the existence of the many? if so, back read around the week he was banned.

You and I have different ideas of what a cesspool is. It is not confined to personal insults. In MJL's absence, I noticed some trolling, and some skirmishes, but it was astonishing how many posters spoke and discussed hockey.

To me, he is not just the largest contributor to degradation of this site, but also the majority contributor. By saying this when he is, in fact, here, I hope I have satisfied your high school code of honor.

And I know how to deal with MJL. Thank you for your advice.

That's too funny! That guy in the middle of that picture with Mac is the dude that runs the Flyers fan FB page. I won't mention his name. I got banned a couple of years ago cause I kept telling him that the Flyers were not deep, and were not fast and physical as a team. He banned me cause he has orange glasses on and couldn't take the fact that I was right. I look even more correct now! FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!

Caufield is skating on MTL's top line - so there is that
- corduroy

Montreal is poop

Montreal is poop
- SuperSchennBros

The Habs may be a shiitty team as things stand now, but Caufield is on a much higher trajectory than our buddy Mr. York is. Another stumbling bumbling act by Mr. Chuckles. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!

The Habs may be a shiitty team as things stand now, but Caufield is on a much higher trajectory than our buddy Mr. York is. Another stumbling bumbling act by Mr. Chuckles. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

It was his attitude not his play.....do some research, jackass

Caufield is skating on MTL's top line - so there is that
- corduroy

And....?


If he was drafted by Philly he would of been injured twice missing at least most of one season with the most mysterious bad luck injury one could think of. Now he would be sent down to "develop" due to missing so much time.

Oh and the Flyers would be forced to go out and trade this years 1st and next years for Jeff Skinner to replace him while blocking him for the next 5 years while scooping up 14 goals.

Torts calling the dressing room or overall organization “sloppy” and needing to correct details, even the minuet details (I hope I’m spelling that right) is something I think we as fans recognize but the organization is clueless to. We’re spoiling young talent by not developing them properly.

The Habs may be a shiitty team as things stand now, but Caufield is on a much higher trajectory than our buddy Mr. York is. Another stumbling bumbling act by Mr. Chuckles. FIRE CHUCK! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Extremely premature.

It was his attitude not his play.....do some research, jackass
- THE BLACK HAND

Well, look who it is. My personal stalker just can't help himself. And this little immature brat can't make a comment without ending it in an insult. No research needed you ingrate. IT WAS INDEED HIS PLAY!! He was average at best and downright awful in the last preseason game. Learn the game!! Or better yet, leave this site and go find a loser Sixas site you can chatter on all night. Perhaps you actually know something a bout that sport. Bozo!