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konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Can’t wait to see key players get hurt the first week of the regular season because they’re not in game shape. So Hart and Atkinson will be fine for the opener? Yeah, and I have some prime real estate in the Everglades to sell ya.

What a friggin mess.

- BiggE

So right!
How are they going to be expected to ramp up to full speed NHL hockey with minimal games played. It goes against all hockey logic.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Would you trust chuckles to orchestrate a Lindros type trade?
- corduroy


No. But would he have a job in that event?

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
If that fails, he can replace Risto in 5.
- Minnyhock

👍
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'm sure this will be a close game....

Until halfway through the first period
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 4 @ 1:49 PM ET
Maybe he pulls a Lindros.
- Minnyhock

and we get a haul like Colorado/Quebec did...
One can dream
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
He’s the best player on the ice at times but he really has not shown consistency. Can’t see him outplaying that contract, if anything he just lives up to it. Kind of have to consider contracts now tho, Ottawa kids all got paid big money. Mackinnon damn near $13M. Matthews going to reset the market shortly as well.
- ClaudeFather


Yep. The Isles are gambling he will develop that consistency. He is fun to watch when he wants to be.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:53 PM ET
So right!
How are they going to be expected to ramp up to full speed NHL hockey with minimal games played. It goes against all hockey logic.

- konalover711


Any player who's injured and comes back in the regular season has to do the same thing. Unless they get an AHL conditioning stint, which is rare.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
He could, but I doubt they do it.
- BiggE

That’s bad news IMO
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
Any insight why Ginning or Hogberg didn't get into any action over these 2 stiffs:
24 Nick Seeler - 37 Louie Belpedio

- furio16


Seeler will make the NHL squad as the 7th D.

The other 3 are all going to be in the AHL and I don't think it moves the needle any which way regardless of which one would play tonight. But Belpedio has had a respectable camp and, let's be honest, he's a Brent guy drafted and developed in the Wild system. The Flyers often sign former Minnesota/Iowa players for the Phantoms.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
Barzal 8 years $9.15mil per. Yowza that is a lot of money for a guy that has not produced at a point per game pace in four years. I guess we will see if it was the Trotz effect.
- mickel25


Hayes got 7 years $7.14 million for scoring 229 points in 382 games = 0.6 P/GP.

Barzal has scored 311 points in 360 games = 0.86 P/GP.


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
Seeler will make the NHL squad as the 7th D.
- bmeltzer


I don't mind Seeler as the 7th dman, but if he plays ahead of York after the team claimed they are going to play the kids, then online fans are going to lose their goddamn minds.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
Seeler will make the NHL squad as the 7th D.

The other 3 are all going to be in the AHL and I don't think it moves the needle any which way regardless of which one would play tonight. But Belpedio has had a respectable camp and, let's be honest, he's a Brent guy drafted and developed in the Wild system. The Flyers often sign former Minnesota/Iowa players for the Phantoms.

- bmeltzer

Exactly Seeler is the 7th dman. So let one of those 2 play instead. Ginning they signed brought over and not giving him any pre-season games is odd to me seeing he has played pro hockey in Europe.

Fair enough in bold. Love nepotism.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don't mind Seeler as the 7th dman, but if he plays ahead of York after the team claimed they are going to play the kids, then online fans are going to lose their goddamn minds.
- Feanor

Are they same as authentic fans?
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
No. But would he have a job in that event?
- Minnyhock

Who (frank)ing knows, he shouldn't have a job at this point.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
Are they same as authentic fans?
- furio16

This franchise should be happy that it has any fans at all right now.
anybody willing to waste their time watching this mess on the ice has a certain level of fan in them
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Exactly Seeler is the 7th dman. So let one of those 2 play instead. Ginning they signed brought over and not giving him any pre-season games is odd to me seeing he has played pro hockey in Europe.
- furio16


Ginning was lucky to get an NHL contract.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
Are they same as authentic fans?
- furio16


They're just the fans who are lame enough to complain about the team on twitter/Facebook/Reddit, or the real losers who still post on hockey message boards.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
I know everyone wants to blame the medical staff for all the injuries the Flyers receive, but to be fair I just injured my shoulder watching the last game. Day to day if anyone is wondering.

Can't be the team, it's just bad luck.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
Ginning was lucky to get an NHL contract.
- Feanor

The GM feels differently. So why not play him. Again it is odd to me as he isn't some 18 year old.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Oct 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Any player who's injured and comes back in the regular season has to do the same thing. Unless they get an AHL conditioning stint, which is rare.
- Feanor


Understood but, long summer off plus no minimum of games is a horse of a different color.

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
But Belpedio has had a respectable camp and, let's be honest, he's a Brent guy drafted and developed in the Wild system. The Flyers often sign former Minnesota/Iowa players for the Phantoms.
- bmeltzer


Prosser, Seeler, Belpedio, Kurtis Gabriel, Stewart, Cal O'Reilly...

Chuck only has love for his former scrubs.

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 4 @ 3:04 PM ET
I know everyone wants to blame the medical staff for all the injuries the Flyers receive, but to be fair I just injured my shoulder watching the last game. Day to day if anyone is wondering.

Can't be the team, it's just bad luck.

- Glak18


I know you're just being funny, but what's the medical staff really have to do with the players getting hurt? Aren't they just responsible for evaluating and treating injuries after they happen? Are you suggesting the players are getting poor medical treatment after the injuries occur? I don't know much about the inner workings of the team, but from a quick look at the doctors listed as "Team Medical Staff" on the Flyer's website there's nothing suspect looking (maybe the dentist looks a little shady?). They are all qualified and experienced doctors. All from Penn. They have two Internists, two Orthopaedic Surgeons and a dentist on staff. I'm guessing some of them are on-hand at the games for emergencies, but other than that are used as advisors mostly. Don't pro players all end up going to pretty much the same specialists for really serious injuries and surgeries?

Are you talking about the training staff? I can see the guys who are responsible for preparing the players physically having a hand in all the injury issues, but I thought they pretty much revamped the whole training staff recently? Didnt they get some new head trainer (after an exhaustive worldwide search) to oversee everything just a few months ago?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
I know you're just being funny, but what's the medical staff really have to do with the players getting hurt? Aren't they just responsible for evaluating and treating injuries after they happen? Are you suggesting the players are getting poor medical treatment after the injuries occur? I don't know much about the inner workings of the team, but from a quick look at the doctors listed as "Team Medical Staff" on the Flyer's website there's nothing suspect looking (maybe the dentist looks a little shady?). They are all qualified and experienced doctors. All from Penn. They have two Internists, two Orthopaedic Surgeons and a dentist on staff. I'm guessing some of them are on-hand at the games for emergencies, but other than that are used as advisors mostly. Don't pro players all end up going to pretty much the same specialists for really serious injuries and surgeries?

Are you talking about the training staff? I can see the guys who are responsible for preparing the players physically having a hand in all the injury issues, but I thought they pretty much revamped the whole training staff recently? Didnt they get some new head trainer (after an exhaustive worldwide search) to oversee everything just a few months ago?

- Dkos

To the latter portion of this, guys also have their own work out regimens in the summer that most have been following for years.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
Forgive me if this asked or said somewhere, was there an update on Sandstrom posted anywhere?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
https://twitter.com/renla...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Oh crap. What will Chuck do? AA or Nate?
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