None of the guys who are starters in the regular season played a physical game last night cept for Bunting which doesn’t surprise me lol

Tbh my primary concern is that they won’t be able to afford to keep Robertson up to start the season and that sucks… even more than some of you guys think Holl does lol
- Dozzer

Bunting is such a poophead, eh?

Like, I don't know how the guys on other teams don't just straight up punch him every shift.

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- GreatGigInTheSky

initally my thought is thats about right.
but I didnt realize he hasnt put up the same points since his rookie season.

None of the guys who are starters in the regular season played a physical game last night cept for Bunting which doesn’t surprise me lol

Tbh my primary concern is that they won’t be able to afford to keep Robertson up to start the season and that sucks… even more than some of you guys think Holl does lol
- Dozzer

For the record I'm totally fine with Holl in the bottom 4-6 most nights. They need to move some $$ (unless Lilly and another big contract goes LTIR). Holl, Kerfoot and Engvall are the only real options to move out. I don't see Kerfoot going with JT's health in question. Engvall ...maybe. Holl ...maybe.

initally my thought is thats about right.
but I didnt realize he hasnt put up the same points since his rookie season.
- senstroll

Yeah, he hasn't had Tavares there to take the harder matchups that freed him up. Been tough going for him ever since, in that regard.

initally my thought is thats about right.
but I didnt realize he hasnt put up the same points since his rookie season.
- senstroll

Welcome to a Trotzwork Orange. You must comply.

Yeah, he hasn't had Tavares there to take the harder matchups that freed him up. Been tough going for him ever since, in that regard.
- GreatGigInTheSky

good point on Tavares, looks like he settled in at around 65 point player.
9mil for that seem steep'ish

The goal being on the power play and the goalie to thank for saving his +/-. And assists are assists, yeah, but look at the replay of the 2nd goal and tell me he actually did anything there.

I know it's unfortunately unlikely that he's not going anywhere. Look at how this started, though. I was joking about everyone else trading Holl.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Hey if they can land another defensive rightie for their backend I’m all for it let’s be clear here

Bunting is such a poophead, eh?

Like, I don't know how the guys on other teams don't just straight up punch him every shift.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Because he dives

Hey if they can land another defensive rightie for their backend I’m all for it let’s be clear here
- Dozzer

They might not have a choice.

Seems like it'll be either Engvall or Holl going before Monday's cap compliance deadline.

If they don't put JT on LTIR they have to trade one of those players, no ifs ands or butts. They don't have the cap space.

Unless someone gets injured this weekend.

good point on Tavares, looks like he settled in at around 65 point player.
9mil for that seem steep'ish
- senstroll

I like Barzal. He's for sure a good player. But I don't think he's a star. But, maybe he'll break out under a new coach.

If he does break out, then the contract could be good. But if he stays what he is, I think it's too much.

For the record I'm totally fine with Holl in the bottom 4-6 most nights. They need to move some $$ (unless Lilly and another big contract goes LTIR). Holl, Kerfoot and Engvall are the only real options to move out. I don't see Kerfoot going with JT's health in question. Engvall ...maybe. Holl ...maybe.
- The Law

No moving Kerfoot when all that would be needed would be to replace him with another player of versatility

No moving Holl unless it’s for another cheap rightie D man

As for Engvall, why would they resign him if their intention is to move the guy? He has a very long reach which is good for the 3rd line.

If the leafs choose to move someone it won’t be one of those 3 unless someone else has proven they’re capable of their jobs

Hey if they can land another defensive rightie for their backend I’m all for it let’s be clear here
- Dozzer

I know you'll delete the gif, but I'm gonna post it anyways to show how much I like those words. -

*funny gif that can make cable tv but not HB*

They might not have a choice.

Seems like it'll be either Engvall or Holl going before Monday's cap compliance deadline.

If they don't put JT on LTIR they have to trade one of those players, no ifs ands or butts. They don't have the cap space.

Unless someone gets injured this weekend.
- Santo_44

It’s going to be something bigger… neither one of those two clear enough cap space for when Liljegren gets back and he’s already skating

Because he dives
- Dozzer

Yup. He's also a Richard. You see after the first Nylander goal? Gets right in the guys face talking poop.

No moving Kerfoot when all that would be needed would be to replace him with another player of versatility

No moving Holl unless it’s for another cheap rightie D man

As for Engvall, why would they resign him if their intention is to move the guy? He has a very long reach which is good for the 3rd line.

If the leafs choose to move someone it won’t be one of those 3 unless someone else has proven they’re capable of their jobs
- Dozzer

They have to trade one.

Unless they want to make JT miss another 6-7 more games than he has to...which for a star veteran would not be a good idea. It's already unfortunate he starts his season late as it is.

I did the math earlier. They can not go past Monday without one of those players gone or playing a man short opening night.

I know you'll delete the gif, but I'm gonna post it anyways to show how much I like those words. -

*funny gif that can make cable tv but not HB*


- GreatGigInTheSky

This is an appropriate edit no? Lol

Yup. He's also a Richard. You see after the first Nylander goal? Gets right in the guys face talking poop.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Oh I know but that’s why I’m happy he’s on the leafs… they need a guy like that to piss off the other team and get them taking bad penalties

It’s going to be something bigger… neither one of those two clear enough cap space for when Liljegren gets back and he’s already skating
- Dozzer

Lil had a hernia surgery, he is out 6 weeks from September 21st.

With him on LTIR they still need to move out cap space before Mondays deadline.

No moving Kerfoot when all that would be needed would be to replace him with another player of versatility

No moving Holl unless it’s for another cheap rightie D man

As for Engvall, why would they resign him if their intention is to move the guy? He has a very long reach which is good for the 3rd line.

If the leafs choose to move someone it won’t be one of those 3 unless someone else has proven they’re capable of their jobs
- Dozzer

That's ignoring the Cap discussion we've been having. They either find another body to go on LTIR or they have to move a contract. And this already assumes that the roster fodder (Simmonds and Cliffy) are out so they are not options.

This is an appropriate edit no? Lol
- Dozzer

Would be great if the gif could live, not gonna lie.

Oh I know but that’s why I’m happy he’s on the leafs… they need a guy like that to piss off the other team and get them taking bad penalties
- Dozzer

For sure. Be nice if they called more of the poop that happens to him, though.

He does dive/embellish a lot but he also gets sticked in the face and crosschecked a lot. Even got slew-footed last night.

For the record I'm totally fine with Holl in the bottom 4-6 most nights. They need to move some $$ (unless Lilly and another big contract goes LTIR). Holl, Kerfoot and Engvall are the only real options to move out. I don't see Kerfoot going with JT's health in question. Engvall ...maybe. Holl ...maybe.
- The Law

They could replace Engvall tomorrow with any other guy, and you wouldn't even remember he was here.

He's not a bad player.

He's franking vanilla.

It’s going to be something bigger… neither one of those two clear enough cap space for when Liljegren gets back and he’s already skating
- Dozzer

Here's my post from 10am (IE. fully caffeinated)

The current cap crunch ...

If it's only Lilly on LTIR to start the year then their cap extends to 83.9.

Current goalies = 6.487M
Current 7 D = 23.725M
Forwards (11) = 52.555M

That totals 82.98M leaving them $920k to sign or slot in the 12th forward. Not sure if ZAR would sign for that? Then, when Lilly's back they need to drop back down to 82.5 by cutting a d'man making 1.4M or more (or maybe new LTIR becomes available by then).

Putting Engvall or JT on LTIR would alleviate a lot of cap strain.

Or, if possible, moving Holl or Kerfoot.

That's ignoring the Cap discussion we've been having. They either find another body to go on LTIR or they have to move a contract. And this already assumes that the roster fodder (Simmonds and Cliffy) are out so they are not options.
- The Law

Option 1: trade Holl, Kerfoot, or Engvall

Option 2: Play a man short for the first 3 games and send Robertson down

Option 3: Put JT on LTIR and have him miss 6-7 more games

Option 3 is the worst for the Leafs and Tavares

Option 2 would not be ideal and Robertson has earned his spot

Option 1 is the least problematic and we even get some value back

They could replace Engvall tomorrow with any other guy, and you wouldn't even remember he was here.

He's not a bad player.

He's franking vanilla.
- Atomic Wedgie

Not sure I agree to that extent but with Robertson and Malgin having good camps and ZAR likely being signed he might be the guy to go.

Likely they move Holl before Monday and they hold onto Engvall as long as they can. With other injuries they may not even have to move him.