Isnt Malgin waiver exempt? If so he can tossed down to the Marlies.
- Fakepartofme

No

Bunting-AM-Marner
Robertson-Kerfoot-Nylander
ZAR(1M)-Kampf-NAK
Engvall-Jarnkrok-Malgin
Tavares

Reilly-Brodie
Muzzin-Sandin
Giordano-Mete

350K cap space

Holl traded


Not ideal having all LHD but the Leafs are cap strapped, nothing we can do at the moment.

Tough playing without a sub for 3 games...(frank) the Leafs are cap strapped.

Robertson and Malgin making things tough.

Or does JT sit out October on LTIR and let them carry a bunch of extras? It might be best if they do that.

Interesting schedule ...first 5 are home/close to home and JT is likely to miss those regardless. The next 5 games are a west coast trip. If he/they are willing to have him skip that trip then they could carry 23 bodies for the first month.

If he avoids the LTIR then maybe they can only carry 20/21. Factor in Engvall and JT missing a game a two and the Cap gets real tight.
- The Law

Benn and Dahlstrom going on LTIR means they don’t have to worry about those guys getting grabbed off waivers right now.

I thought going in Robertson would really have to outperform others because of being waiver exempt. He pretty much has. Malgin has been good and played ok on the 4th but the competition there is intense.

I see Gaudette, Anderson, Simmonds and Clifford being waived. Steeves and gang are waiver exempt. I don’t know what the lines look like but some combo like this seems feasible. Didn’t do the math.

Bunting AM Marner
Nickie? JT Willie
Jarnrok Kampf Kerfoot
ZAR NAK Engvall
Malgin

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Sandin
Gio Holl
Mete
Lilligren LTIR

Benn and Dahlstrom going on LTIR means they don’t have to worry about those guys getting grabbed off waivers right now.

I thought going in Robertson would really have to outperform others because of being waiver exempt. He pretty much has. Malgin has been good and played ok on the 4th but the competition there is intense.

I see Gaudette, Anderson, Simmonds and Clifford being waived. Steeves and gang are waiver exempt. I don’t know what the lines look like but some combo like this seems feasible. Didn’t do the math.

Bunting AM Marner
Nickie? JT Willie
Jarnrok Kampf Kerfoot
ZAR NAK Engvall
Malgin

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Sandin
Gio Holl
Mete
Lilligren LTIR
- Canada Cup

Over the cap^

Engvall participated in full practice

JT expected to miss 3 games, as one of our best players we want him to play asap to get back up to speed.

Mete has looked alright and can play rs, maybe Gig finally gets his wish and Holl is traded.
- Santo_44

Ya, my assumption going into camp was a Holl trade would happen once Sandin was signed. But maybe they need to wait to see Muzzin skate and figure out if JT is bound for LTIR first.

I assume a Holl trade happens at some point. I'm just not sure they have the depth to move Kerfoot yet.

Benn and Dahlstrom going on LTIR means they don’t have to worry about those guys getting grabbed off waivers right now.

I thought going in Robertson would really have to outperform others because of being waiver exempt. He pretty much has. Malgin has been good and played ok on the 4th but the competition there is intense.

I see Gaudette, Anderson, Simmonds and Clifford being waived. Steeves and gang are waiver exempt. I don’t know what the lines look like but some combo like this seems feasible. Didn’t do the math.

Bunting AM Marner
Malgin JT Willie
Jarnrok Kampf Kerfoot
ZAR NAK Engvall

Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Sandin
Gio Holl

Lilligren LTIR
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Cut Mete and NR and sign ZAR for 920k and they'll be right at the Cap with no spares.

That's why I think they move Holl. His salary lets them carry Mete and a spare skater like Robertson or Gaudette. If Engvall or JT can't go in game one they have to fill that spot and won't have Cap relief. Although maybe there's a I.R. rule that lets you bring a guy up at no cost ...'emergency'.

JT taking the west coast trip off would buy them a month of roster relief. But, not sure you want to lose JT for an extra handful of games.

Ya, my assumption going into camp was a Holl trade would happen once Sandin was signed. But maybe they need to wait to see Muzzin skate and figure out if JT is bound for LTIR first.

I assume a Holl trade happens at some point. I'm just not sure they have the depth to move Kerfoot yet.
- The Law

I am sure they have some trades ready in their back pocket...I am sure most teams do based on health as there are many teams in the same boat as the Leafs.

Wild have 5.7M in cap space and Guerin said he wanted the space for this very reason to pick up some value for cheap.

I like Engvall but he is a guy they can move as well. In a perfect world when/if the Leafs get healthy if Robby is in the top 6 we have

ZAR-Kampf-NAK
Malgin-Kerfoot-Jarnkrok

for the bottom 6. Wouldn't lose a lot trading out Engvall.

Was ZAR brought in in hopes of getting a cheap LW for the bottom 6?

Over the cap^
- Santo_44

Yeah I saw that you did the math. They’re saying mid November for Lilligren. I don’t think they move Holl. They have way move depth upfront. There are a bunch of cheaper Engvall type forwards if they want to move his $2.1. They’ll be tight again when Lilli comes back.

Yeah I saw that you did the math. They’re saying mid November for Lilligren. I don’t think they move Holl. They have way move depth upfront. There are a bunch of cheaper Engvall type forwards if they want to move his $2.1. They’ll be tight again when Lilli comes back.
- Canada Cup

Don't think they can keep Holl around unless JT and Engvall go on LTIR. Engvall practiced in full and its not ideal to make JT miss 3 weeks into the regular season. Not worth keeping Holl around at least.

Cut Mete and NR and sign ZAR for 920k and they'll be right at the Cap with no spares.

That's why I think they move Holl. His salary lets them carry Mete and a spare skater like Robertson or Gaudette. If Engvall or JT can't go in game one they have to fill that spot and won't have Cap relief. Although maybe there's a I.R. rule that lets you bring a guy up at no cost ...'emergency'.

JT taking the west coast trip off would buy them a month of roster relief. But, not sure you want to lose JT for an extra handful of games.
- The Law

Going with no spares when they have two back-to-backs in the first week is risky. They have to do something to get Lilli back in anyway. Unless there’s some voodoo MLSE math, I think they make a trade.

Don't think they can keep Holl around unless JT and Engvall go on LTIR. Engvall practiced in full and its not ideal to make JT miss 3 weeks into the regular season. Not worth keeping Holl around at least.
- Santo_44

Ya, a Holl or Engvall trade creates enough flex to sign ZAR and carry an extra skater.

I don't dislike either but I think with Sandin and Lilly getting minutes this year the drop from Holl to Mete and Benn in that 6/7 role is better then losing Engvall.

Ya, a Holl or Engvall trade creates enough flex to sign ZAR and carry an extra skater.

I don't dislike either but I think with Sandin and Lilly getting minutes this year the drop from Holl to Mete and Benn in that 6/7 role is better then losing Engvall.
- The Law

Yeah they may trade Holl then will wait to see what happens with more injures, might have to trade Engvall as well but at least they would be able to sit on that one.

Could also sign Stralman to league min, he is a RD.

I predicted the cup last year.

This year I predict the Leafs fail to make the playoffs.
- TheMussel

The old reverse jinx. I like it.

Yeah they may trade Holl then will wait to see what happens with more injures, might have to trade Engvall as well but at least they would be able to sit on that one.

Could also sign Stralman to league min, he is a RD.
- Santo_44

This is new to me. The Benn/Dahlstrom injuries will create $1.5M LTIR space for a while.

Problem solved/kicked the road a bit
https://www.si.com/nhl/ma...-as-a-salary-cap-solution

The old reverse jinx. I like it.
- AdamFrench

Symba has been doing it for years.

It doesn't actually work.

Symba has been doing it for years.

It doesn't actually work.

- Scabeh

spatso has been doing it every year and 60% of the time it works every time.

This is new to me. The Benn/Dahlstrom injuries will create $1.5M LTIR space for a while.

Problem solved/kicked the road a bit
https://www.si.com/nhl/ma...-as-a-salary-cap-solution
- Canada Cup

I don't think that article understands LTIR

I barely understand it. But from what I understand a league min contract on LTIR does nothing because all LTIR does is let teams go over the cap by their cap hit...but their cap hit is still on the cap.

So it doesn't matter.

Also Freidman just said on his 32 thoughts that they want to sign ZAR but want to move a body out first. And that team likes Mete and Kral this pre season.

As much as I like Holl, writing seems to be on the wall for him.

This is new to me. The Benn/Dahlstrom injuries will create $1.5M LTIR space for a while.

Problem solved/kicked the road a bit
https://www.si.com/nhl/ma...-as-a-salary-cap-solution
- Canada Cup

Unless there's some voodoo Pridham magic I'm not sure this does what they say it does. Their salaries are included in the cap calc's.

IE. 82.5 + 1.4 (Lilly) + 1.5 (Benn/Dahl) means the Leafs can carry up to 85.4 (while those guys are LTIR). It's not an "extra" 1.5M b/c Benn/Dahlstrom and their 1.5M count in that total.

Good morning, everyone.

A friendly reminder that the 2022-23 Hockey Buzz Maple Leafs Predictor Thread is now live:

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Remember: you don't have to fill it all out at once. You can start, save, and then just keep coming back and adding to it. You have until puck drop on opening night to complete it.

Happy predicting.

Unless there's some voodoo Pridham magic I'm not sure this does what they say it does. Their salaries are included in the cap calc's.

IE. 82.5 + 1.4 (Lilly) + 1.5 (Benn/Dahl) means the Leafs can carry up to 85.4 (while those guys are LTIR). It's not an "extra" 1.5M b/c Benn/Dahlstrom and their 1.5M count in that total.
- The Law

Agreed

There’s an explanation for this situation (the Training Camp Equation) on Cap Friendly.
I have a headache.

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

All this from one preseason game?
They just went to the cup final and just drafted 1st overall...not a bad two year period.
They have some bad contracts for sure. But things can change pretty quickly in the NHL (example above), if they can unload Price or he retires and with the cap projected to go 1m next year and 5m the year after they could become decent sooner than later.
Hopefully not though.
- Fakepartofme

Or, to put it another way, they suck.

Oh I know… had long hair for a long time. I had it back in highschool and had it shaved in the cafeteria to raise money for the united way. Then, I regrew it recently (in my 40s) and had it cut back off around the same time as surgery and had it donated it to a company that manufactures wigs for children who lose their hair for medical reasons

Still got the beard… but I may let that go… once winter is over that is lol
- Dozzer

I had a similar timeline for my long hair. Grade 10-11 then cut it short and now early 30's because of Covid and laziness. Short hair is just so much (frank)ing easier to manage than long hair. I didn't donate it because I didn't get it cut short enough.

My beard is still going strong. Need to trim it, though. poops bad right now.

Wouldn't expect anything less.

I'll focus on our cup final, our first overall pick and our likely next top 5 pick while it happens.

- Scabeh

Not trying to be a Richard, but man, what an unfortunate year for you guys to get the 1st overall.

I predicted the cup last year.

This year I predict the Leafs fail to make the playoffs.
- TheMussel

Last year was the first I've done that. I decided to run that back for this season.

I had a similar timeline for my long hair. Grade 10-11 then cut it short and now early 30's because of Covid and laziness. Short hair is just so much (frank)ing easier to manage than long hair. I didn't donate it because I didn't get it cut short enough.

My beard is still going strong. Need to trim it, though. poops bad right now.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Very long as a hippie, punk kid. As long as I could get away with working. Very long as a hippie, punk old fart