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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
Why didn't they name it The Gold Standard? The Flyers are the best organization in the history of organizations, possibly ever.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
What a terrible lineup for a final preseason game.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Hart, Provy and TK not in the lineup tonight
- Dkos

What's up with Atkinson? What's his injury?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 4 @ 11:02 AM ET
What's up with Atkinson? What's his injury?
- rayc16



His leg was amputated. He is considered day to day.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
What's up with Atkinson? What's his injury?
- rayc16


UB
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 11:12 AM ET
UB
- Feanor

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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
40
- furio16


Red Wine
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
Time to see what Felix and/or Ersson can do. No issue with how Chuck handled the goaltending; though imo it wasn't by design. He screwed himself as he had no money to get one.
- furio16


No, there was money available to pursue and sign a reliable back up goaltender at the start of free agency if they wanted to....Instead, they chose to spend 6.5 million on garbage on the opening day of free agency. Grosenick, Belpedio, Brooks, Marody, Connauton, Braun and Deslauriers.....Literally none of those players, outside of perhaps Braun, was a pressing need for this team, but the cash was just burning a hole in Fletcher's pocket, not to mention the urge to till up contract spots.

That's not taking into account that they already knew Fedotov wasn't coming, they spent another 5 million on Tony D prior to the start of Free Agency, and then still chose to re-sign some players late into summer, like Hodgson for 800K....

I don't have an issue with Sandstrom or Ersson getting a shot, but it's still clear that there's no real plan in place. Hart's durability is fair to question, and now Sandstrom is already injured too. A starting tandem of Ersson and Grosenick. I'd be afraid having that as my AHL tandem, let alone an NHL tandem. It's inexcusable really.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
No, there was money available to pursue and sign a reliable back up goaltender at the start of free agency if they wanted to....Instead, they chose to spend 6.5 million on garbage on the opening day of free agency. Grosenick, Belpedio, Brooks, Marody, Connauton, Braun and Deslauriers.....Literally none of those players, outside of perhaps Braun, was a pressing need for this team, but the cash was just burning a hole in Fletcher's pocket, not to mention the urge to till up contract spots.

That's not taking into account that they already knew Fedotov wasn't coming, they spent another 5 million on Tony D prior to the start of Free Agency, and then still chose to re-sign some players late into summer, like Hodgson for 800K....

I don't have an issue with Sandstrom or Ersson getting a shot, but it's still clear that there's no real plan in place. Hart's durability is fair to question, and now Sandstrom is already injured too. A starting tandem of Ersson and Grosenick. I'd be afraid having that as my AHL tandem, let alone an NHL tandem. It's inexcusable really.

- Flyerfan2868

Irrelevant when it comes to the cap.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 4 @ 11:48 AM ET
No, there was money available to pursue and sign a reliable back up goaltender at the start of free agency if they wanted to....Instead, they chose to spend 6.5 million on garbage on the opening day of free agency. Grosenick, Belpedio, Brooks, Marody, Connauton, Braun and Deslauriers.....Literally none of those players, outside of perhaps Braun, was a pressing need for this team, but the cash was just burning a hole in Fletcher's pocket, not to mention the urge to till up contract spots.

That's not taking into account that they already knew Fedotov wasn't coming, they spent another 5 million on Tony D prior to the start of Free Agency, and then still chose to re-sign some players late into summer, like Hodgson for 800K....

I don't have an issue with Sandstrom or Ersson getting a shot, but it's still clear that there's no real plan in place. Hart's durability is fair to question, and now Sandstrom is already injured too. A starting tandem of Ersson and Grosenick. I'd be afraid having that as my AHL tandem, let alone an NHL tandem. It's inexcusable really.

- Flyerfan2868

I would argue Braun was not a necessity also. Why not just play Attard with York as your 3rd pairing. But you are right, $6.5M on this group of players makes no sense, but that is pretty much Fletcher's MO lately. Think about how much more cap space the team would accrue starting with even $5M in cap space to start the season? By season's end how much more flexibility would they have? Just poorly thought out by Fletcher and more evidence that he is in panic mode and does not have a plan for this franchise. Just trying to hastily plug holes in the dike.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 4 @ 11:49 AM ET
His leg was amputated. He is considered day to day.
- MBFlyerfan

So the dream to be our next captain is dead? So sad.

So tonight’s line up was posted?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:50 AM ET
I would argue Braun was not a necessity also. Why not just play Attard with York as your 3rd pairing. But you are right, $6.5M on this group of players makes no sense, but that is pretty much Fletcher's MO lately. Think about how much more cap space the team would accrue starting with even $5M in cap space to start the season? By season's end how much more flexibility would they have? Just poorly thought out by Fletcher and more evidence that he is in panic mode and does not have a plan for this franchise. Just trying to hastily plug holes in the dike.
- jd250

Have you watched Attard play at all?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
I would argue Braun was not a necessity also. Why not just play Attard with York as your 3rd pairing. But you are right, $6.5M on this group of players makes no sense, but that is pretty much Fletcher's MO lately. Think about how much more cap space the team would accrue starting with even $5M in cap space to start the season? By season's end how much more flexibility would they have? Just poorly thought out by Fletcher and more evidence that he is in panic mode and does not have a plan for this franchise. Just trying to hastily plug holes in the dike.
- jd250

Attard needs some AHL time. He was basically a rover in college. Rather have passed on Braun as well though he is way down the issue list.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
Attard needs some AHL time. He was basically a rover in college. Rather have passed on Braun as well though he is way down the issue list.
- furio16

People complain about development and then want to throw a kid to the wolves lol. Flyers Buzz logic for ya
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I would argue Braun was not a necessity also. Why not just play Attard with York as your 3rd pairing. But you are right, $6.5M on this group of players makes no sense, but that is pretty much Fletcher's MO lately. Think about how much more cap space the team would accrue starting with even $5M in cap space to start the season? By season's end how much more flexibility would they have? Just poorly thought out by Fletcher and more evidence that he is in panic mode and does not have a plan for this franchise. Just trying to hastily plug holes in the dike.
- jd250


Lately? It has been his MO as a GM - period!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
PLAYOFFS BABY
- THE BLACK HAND

Flyers 2-3 years away, or was it 2-3 players
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Flyers 2-3 years away, or was it 2-3 players
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Yes
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
Have you watched Attard play at all?
- ClaudeFather

Yes I have. He is young and he is going to make mistakes. But he has the size to play in the NHL and he has a booming shot. Isn't it best for his development to be coached and developed by Torts and Shaw versus Lappy in the AHL?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Oct 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
Flyers 2-3 years away, or was it 2-3 players
- THE EVIL WITHIN


I think it's actually 2-3 GMs
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yes I have. He is young and he is going to make mistakes. But he has the size to play in the NHL and he has a booming shot. Isn't it best for his development to be coached and developed by Torts and Shaw versus Lappy in the AHL?
- jd250

What!? No, absolutely not. He’s a turn over machine, he will get eaten alive. If these were your thoughts watching him play then just stop watching hockey. He clearly should not be in the NHL
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 4 @ 12:13 PM ET
Lately? It has been his MO as a GM - period!
- corduroy

Hmmmm .. so trading Gudas for Niskanen was a bad trade? How about signing Hayes to fill an important 2nd line center role that Patrick was unable to fill? How about trading down in the 1st round and still getting York, as well as a 2nd round pick they used to get Brink? Early on Fletcher was doing some good things.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 4 @ 12:14 PM ET
New blog
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Oct 4 @ 12:19 PM ET
Hmmmm .. so trading Gudas for Niskanen was a bad trade? How about signing Hayes to fill an important 2nd line center role that Patrick was unable to fill? How about trading down in the 1st round and still getting York, as well as a 2nd round pick they used to get Brink? Early on Fletcher was doing some good things.
- jd250

Signing Hayes was not good. He overpaid term and money. A 40-50 point guy is not worth 7 million to me. Hayes doesn't bring much else to the table.

Did you see who they passed over by trading down for York? Wouldn't classify that as good move just yet.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 4 @ 12:22 PM ET
Signing Hayes was not good. He overpaid term and money. A 40-50 point guy is not worth 7 million to me. Hayes doesn't bring much else to the table.

Did you see who they passed over by trading down for York? Wouldn't classify that as good move just yet.

- furio16

I feel good about York now that Tort's is here to develop him. We'll see what Caufield becomes. I don't like this size for one thing, but he did have an outstanding 2nd half last year. as far as Hayes, yes he is very much overpaid but when healthy is a good center in this league for all situations. Now never would have needed Hayes if Braydon Schenn was still here!
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
Signing Hayes was not good. He overpaid term and money. A 40-50 point guy is not worth 7 million to me. Hayes doesn't bring much else to the table.

Did you see who they passed over by trading down for York? Wouldn't classify that as good move just yet.

- furio16


the 250 is delusional
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