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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Lose on Long Island, Quick Hits for Oct. 3
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Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Oct 3 @ 6:23 PM ET
No offense but the whole conditioning thing is a huge load of crap.

Players are in best shape ever. They train all year. There is absolutely NO need for torts torture camp. Conditioning isn’t the issue.

Yes you need some structured conditioning. Every team does. Notice NO other team did some stupid torture camp? All it causes is injuries down the line.

- SMS4016

Have you ever watched Vinnie LaCavalier skate off the ice on a shift change?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested or excited for a Flyers season in my entire life.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested or excited for a Flyers season in my entire life.
- funmaster18

Ditto
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 3 @ 7:04 PM ET
No offense but the whole conditioning thing is a huge load of crap.

Players are in best shape ever. They train all year. There is absolutely NO need for torts torture camp. Conditioning isn’t the issue.

Yes you need some structured conditioning. Every team does. Notice NO other team did some stupid torture camp? All it causes is injuries down the line.

- SMS4016


Actually, other coaches who have either worked with or played under Tortorella have adopted similar approaches at the start of camp. Maybe not as many days or to the same degree, but they do pretty skating intensive stuff at the start.

It may only be a 1% or 2% edge over the average NHL team but it's doable.

Martin St. Louis started the Habs camp with the same skating drills he did under Torts. He also subscribes to the belief that camp should be more stress test than audition. Where he learned it: Torts. There have been several articles and tweets about it.

Sullivan has said he models camps largely -- though not entirely-- on things he gleaned from coaching mentor Tortorella. He tries to push the boundaries of players' comfort zones from the start.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
This roster is looking like it should skate out to The Roper’s theme song for warm ups.
- Hesh_


Thats actually (frank)i g hilarious....Norman Fell was the man
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested or excited for a Flyers season in my entire life.
- funmaster18
Absolutely! WAs listening to Sirius/XM NHL channel today in the car. They are starting to ramp up for the return of regular season hockey and I just couldn't get excited at all. I've NEVER felt like this prior to the start of the hockey season. Thanks Chuckles. PLEASE FIRE CHUCK!
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested or excited for a Flyers season in my entire life.
- funmaster18

Im excited to get q top three pick. Should they fail to put themselves in that position, theyll become an afterthought for me for the foreseeable future.....never thought i would even consider or be capable of saying something like this
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
Im looking more forward to this Sixers Nets preseason opener than anything related to the flyers
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
Having both Seeler and Connauton is insane
- ClaudeFather


Seeler will be 7th D and the other will be a phantom. CONNAUTON is listed as a phantom on Cap Friendly. People have to calm down, it is getting pathetic. Seeler is the best option for a 7th D.

Seeler is making 775K he can easily be waived as well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 3 @ 7:44 PM ET
I’m not excited for this season but I’ll watch every game. I’m a fan of the team. I’m a fan of hockey. Most importantly, there is a silver lining to everything. Calling this team the worst team in the entire league is lazy. This is why you play the games and even if they are in fact the worst team in the league, that’s fine. Speaking for myself, I want the best possible shot at the first overall pick. All of that aside, we have players who simply need to rebound and/or set up. Ivan Provorov and Travis Konency need to step up and rebound. Morgan Frost simply needs to step up. I think it’s reasonable to expect these players to reach another gear in their play. I think all three players are capable. I understand being town on this team right now and the way it’s being ran but all teams go through this. I think being garbage just might be the best thing to happen to the Flyers at this current point in time. How bad are they? Let’s wait and see.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 3 @ 7:52 PM ET
Im excited to get q top three pick. Should they fail to put themselves in that position, theyll become an afterthought for me for the foreseeable future.....never thought i would even consider or be capable of saying something like this
- THE BLACK HAND


How could you even be excited about that? Nothing short of a complete fire sale of the front office would get me excited. What happens on the ice is irrelevant
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
Im looking more forward to this Sixers Nets preseason opener than anything related to the flyers
- THE BLACK HAND

phillies are like 94% to make the playoffs we got that now!
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 7:59 PM ET
How could you even be excited about that? Nothing short of a complete fire sale of the front office would get me excited. What happens on the ice is irrelevant
- Just5

I fail to see how you couldnt be excited about picking top three in this draft regardless of the stooges in the front office
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 3 @ 8:09 PM ET
Seeler will be 7th D and the other will be a phantom. CONNAUTON is listed as a phantom on Cap Friendly. People have to calm down, it is getting pathetic. Seeler is the best option for a 7th D.

Seeler is making 775K he can easily be waived as well.

- WhiskeyMan

You clearly missed the context of the entire conversation, carry on fool
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 3 @ 8:11 PM ET
I’m not excited for this season but I’ll watch every game. I’m a fan of the team. I’m a fan of hockey. Most importantly, there is a silver lining to everything. Calling this team the worst team in the entire league is lazy. This is why you play the games and even if they are in fact the worst team in the league, that’s fine. Speaking for myself, I want the best possible shot at the first overall pick. All of that aside, we have players who simply need to rebound and/or set up. Ivan Provorov and Travis Konency need to step up and rebound. Morgan Frost simply needs to step up. I think it’s reasonable to expect these players to reach another gear in their play. I think all three players are capable. I understand being town on this team right now and the way it’s being ran but all teams go through this. I think being garbage just might be the best thing to happen to the Flyers at this current point in time. How bad are they? Let’s wait and see.
- SuperSchennBros

Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 3 @ 8:11 PM ET
Im looking more forward to this Sixers Nets preseason opener than anything related to the flyers
- THE BLACK HAND
You and the 3 other people in the area that care about the NBA preseason games. If the Flyers were good you'd still be looking forward to that more you fraud!!
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 8:16 PM ET
You and the 3 other people in the area that care about the NBA preseason games. If the Flyers were good you'd still be looking forward to that more you fraud!!

- Phillywhiteout


Fraud


no poop you dumb (frank)......now should I explain how a door knob works to you
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 3 @ 8:28 PM ET
Fraud


no poop you dumb (frank)......now should I explain how a door knob works to you

- THE BLACK HAND
Why are you here? You're a Sixers dork. You shouldn't even be permitted here. Now go away you fraud. I'm sure there are many places you can go and talk about those losers.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 3 @ 8:28 PM ET
Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
- ClaudeFather

THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
Why are you here? You're a Sixers dork. You shouldn't even be permitted here. Now go away you fraud. I'm sure there are many places you can go and talk about those losers.

- Phillywhiteout


Go dry your tears in your bloomers, you twat
Nivcheret
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.04.2019

Oct 3 @ 8:42 PM ET
Winning the Deslauriers sweepstakes is already paying dividends. When he is out there it is noticeable. No liberties are taken against the Flyers players and there is a whole heck of a lot more open ice for the dynamic offensive players on this team to demonstrate their abilities.

I can't wait until he drops some bodies this season!!!

- StepfordSam


I'm sorry.. what dynamic offensive players on this team?
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 3 @ 8:53 PM ET
I'm sorry.. what dynamic offensive players on this team?
- Nivcheret

You obviously don’t read StepfordSams posts too often.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
Go dry your tears in your bloomers, you twat
- THE BLACK HAND
Tears, you drive me to tears? You're the one that usually runs away from our conversations in tears after I owned you yet again. The reality is that you're such a fraud on here that you bore me. I'm not even going to bother with you cause I simply don't have the time to play games with a little child on here. Perhaps people would take you a little more seriously on here( not me cause I see no hope for you) if you didn't end EVERY comment with an insult you insecure little brat.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 3 @ 8:58 PM ET
Episode 2 out now:



Featuring Olle Lyksell and the Cates Bros lol
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
Tears, you drive me to tears? You're the one that usually runs away from our conversations in tears after I owned you yet again. The reality is that you're such a fraud on here that you bore me. I'm not even going to bother with you cause I simply don't have the time to play games with a little child on here. Perhaps people would take you a little more seriously on here( not me cause I see no hope for you) if you didn't end EVERY comment with an insult you insecure little brat.
- Phillywhiteout

youre the hero of your own fantasy

did Putin's minister of propaganda write this for you?
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