I've been waiting for Anderson to do something, never does. I think he's fallen down the depth chart. Same with Abruzzese, he was a wasted spot last season when he was up with the Leafs. Either of them seem to "make anything happen" when they're on the ice. IMO.

I feel Steeves and Homberg have shown much more so far.
- underhill14

I have to admit I'm in the same boat. I think Anderson has more to give than he's shown, but you're right - he either shows it or he's trucking out of town on the waiver wire.

Abruzzese was just introduced to the NHL last year. Yeah, he sucked, but he - like a lot of NCAA guys - learned he wasn't ready. A year in the AHL might get him there. Really the most effective you're going to see Abruzzese from my take was maybe at the Adam Brooks level anyway - so waiver-bait fill-in.

Ugh Blue Jays
But at least judge didnt homer.

I'm penciling him in at 1x1. Why is he still holding out for nickels and dimes if he wants to be here? I gotta think if this was a play to get moved the agent would have put that out there.
- The Law

Well several $100 000's is not really nickels or dimes

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Well several $100 000's is not really nickels or dimes
- Fakepartofme

Well, if the battle is $100k or so .....I'm signing my 1 yr qualifier, getting a full camp/pre-season and hammering my bosses in arbitration next summer when I have leverage.

Holding out negates his camp/pre-season and might put his big development year at risk with a slow start.

Tough call but most (almost all) of his comps have accepted their fates and bet on themselves.

Well, if the battle is $100k or so .....I'm signing my 1 yr qualifier, getting a full camp/pre-season and hammering my bosses in arbitration next summer when I have leverage.

Holding out negates his camp/pre-season and might put his big development year at risk with a slow start.

Tough call but most (almost all) of his comps have accepted their fates and bet on themselves.
- The Law

His agent is telling him “this is how playing tough made it work for Willie….”

Well, if the battle is $100k or so .....I'm signing my 1 yr qualifier, getting a full camp/pre-season and hammering my bosses in arbitration next summer when I have leverage.

Holding out negates his camp/pre-season and might put his big development year at risk with a slow start.

Tough call but most (almost all) of his comps have accepted their fates and bet on themselves.
- The Law

Meh Dubas has caved before (willie, one example) he's probably thinking the same will occur.

Adam Levine isn't a scandal. His wife came out and said she was okay with his side pieces. She's only mad that it's in the public eye now.
- Aaron_85

Never heard of him

His agent is telling him “this is how playing tough made it work for Willie….”
- Canada Cup

I think the Leafs need Nylander more than they need Sandin at this point in time

Meh Dubas has caved before (willie, one example) he's probably thinking the same will occur.
- Fakepartofme

Nylander had played two and a half seasons when held out. Sandin not so much.

I think the Leafs need Nylander more than they need Sandin at this point in time
- PatC80

That’s what the ….. mean (Also means maybe get a second opinion on your agent)

That’s what the ….. mean (Also means maybe get a second opinion on your agent)
- Canada Cup

Sandin should get a new agent then. There's no reason he shouldn't be a Leaf, unless he really doesn't want to play in Toronto anymore.

His agent is telling him “this is how playing tough made it work for Willie….”
- Canada Cup

Different degrees of leverage ...and Willie got 6 yrs of time to overcome the missed time. Sandin will have 6 months (or less).

Imagine if Willie had held out and signed a 1 yr then had that poopball year.

That's the point.

Meh Dubas has caved before (willie, one example) he's probably thinking the same will occur.
- Fakepartofme

How exactly did Dubas cave on Willy?

Dude is underpaid.

Meh Dubas has caved before (willie, one example) he's probably thinking the same will occur.
- Fakepartofme

I thought we at HB went round and round and finally determined that Dubas won (or atleast drew in that negotiation. I wouldn't look at that deal and use the term "caved". Marner? Ya, probably could be argued he "caved" ...Willie? He went to the deadline and gave Willie a "take it or leave it" and Willie took it.

It's reminiscent of Al Iafrate and Gary Leeman.

So it's highly relevant.
- Atomic Wedgie

I thought it was Shayne Corson and Alexander Mogilny

Meh Dubas has caved before (willie, one example) he's probably thinking the same will occur.
- Fakepartofme

How did Dubas cave there?

I thought it was Shayne Corson and Alexander Mogilny
- PatC80

There's about 100 different stories of "player X was caught with player Y's wife), but as far as I know, Leeman/Iafrate is the only one where there's actual proof.

Although apparently Shanny is married to an ex-teammate's ex-wife, but I don't know what the actual timeline is (I'm assuming there's no scandal).

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So much Awesomeness.

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- Fakepartofme

The bolded

.

There's about 100 different stories of "player X was caught with player Y's wife), but as far as I know, Leeman/Iafrate is the only one where there's actual proof.

Although apparently Shanny is married to an ex-teammate's ex-wife, but I don't know what the actual timeline is (I'm assuming there's no scandal).
- Atomic Wedgie

I remember the Leeman/Iafrate story, Al wasn't too happy obviously.. The Corson/Mogilny thing, there was proof as well.. Mogilny left the team for "personal reasons"

There's about 100 different stories of "player X was caught with player Y's wife), but as far as I know, Leeman/Iafrate is the only one where there's actual proof.

Although apparently Shanny is married to an ex-teammate's ex-wife, but I don't know what the actual timeline is (I'm assuming there's no scandal).
- Atomic Wedgie

The Chelios having an affair with former Habs President Ronald Corey's wife was never officially confirmed but.... we all know it happened.

Messing around with coworker's wives in a workplace where violence is legal seems inadvisable.

The bolded

.
- Scabeh

Not a Jays fan?

Different degrees of leverage ...and Willie got 6 yrs of time to overcome the missed time. Sandin will have 6 months (or less).

Imagine if Willie had held out and signed a 1 yr then had that poopball year.

That's the point.
- The Law

I was being ironic or satirical or using parody. It might have been a pun. Willie was an established player with great hair. The only commonalities are the agent and nationality.

There's about 100 different stories of "player X was caught with player Y's wife), but as far as I know, Leeman/Iafrate is the only one where there's actual proof.

Although apparently Shanny is married to an ex-teammate's ex-wife, but I don't know what the actual timeline is (I'm assuming there's no scandal).
- Atomic Wedgie

Jeff Skinner (frank)ed the Sabres