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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
True but it was a BPA pick. I’ve said many times I don’t subscribe to BPA but I also don’t believe in reaching in the 1st round.
- Nighthawk


So to be clear, you don’t believe in taking the best player available and you also don’t believe in not taking the best player available.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Seriously does anyone in here not understand the cost of trading for a top 4 RHD is very expensive if even available?

That said who in here is willing to pay the ask & for who & for what?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 7:58 PM ET
So to be clear, you don’t believe in taking the best player available and you also don’t believe in not taking the best player available.
- 1970vintage

To be clear I don’t pick a reach in the 1st round. Was that not clear?

As for BPA I don’t subscribe to BPA until I hear MY TEAMS BPA list not the myriad of BPA lists out there. Therefore if say a RHD is in the same range or group of F’s then it’s pick RHD. BPA isn’t always cut n dried as only a single player is there to be picked.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:02 PM ET
To be clear I don’t pick a reach in the 1st round. Was that not clear?

As for BPA I don’t subscribe to BPA until I hear MY TEAMS BPA list not the myriad of BPA lists out there. Therefore if say a RHD is in the same range or group of F’s then it’s pick RHD. BPA isn’t always cut n dried as only a single player is there to be picked.

- Nighthawk


obviously the best player available is the one that the team who is up at the podium making the announcement thinks is the best player available.

So not BPA and not not BPA unless that player isn’t “a reach” whatever that means. Got it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 8:05 PM ET
So NYR trade Lundkvist a 1st rd RHD who has proven nothing to date. Dallas pays a 1st & conditional 4th if I remember correctly.

Good deal or bad deal?

I’ll say Dallas can only hope it’s a good deal. Imo they were desperate & met NYR’s ask cuz Klingberg walked. Bad deal but willing to be proven wrong. He was 4th RHD depth in NYR.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:10 PM ET
So NYR trade Lundkvist a 1st rd RHD who has proven nothing to date. Dallas pays a 1st & conditional 4th if I remember correctly.

Good deal or bad deal?

I’ll say Dallas can only hope it’s a good deal. Imo they were desperate & met NYR’s ask cuz Klingberg walked. Bad deal but willing to be proven wrong. He was 4th RHD depth in NYR.

- Nighthawk


Don would tell you it’s the worst deal in the history of hockey. The hockey pundits I’ve heard/read have said it’s a fair deal.

Seems like a lot to me given that Dallas isn’t exactly one guy away from challenging for the cup.
golfingsince
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Sep 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
So NYR trade Lundkvist a 1st rd RHD who has proven nothing to date. Dallas pays a 1st & conditional 4th if I remember correctly.

Good deal or bad deal?

I’ll say Dallas can only hope it’s a good deal. Imo they were desperate & met NYR’s ask cuz Klingberg walked. Bad deal but willing to be proven wrong. He was 4th RHD depth in NYR.

- Nighthawk


Dallas paid quite a bit for sure. However, it's only fair to point out that the Rags depth at RHD is amazing. It's quite possible any of them would be our best RHD.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
Dallas paid quite a bit for sure. However, it's only fair to point out that the Rags depth at RHD is amazing. It's quite possible any of them would be our best RHD.
- golfingsince

True they had the depth but by no means has Lundkvist proven he’s top 4. He had the opportunity to be on the Rags but Schneider passed him. Will he do better in Dallas? He should given the opportunity but in the AHL he wasn’t turning heads.

What if Van paid the same price?

I’d be pissed & right along side with Don.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
Boring game. Not much to glean outta this one.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
Spent almost the whole 2nd period in the box.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
No idea who this Kalynuk kid is, but he looks good. AHL contract, or camp invitee?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 8:48 PM ET
No idea who this Kalynuk kid is, but he looks good. AHL contract, or camp invitee?
- 1970vintage

Nhl contract. Came from Chicago org. Has some NHL experience about 30 games.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
Nhl contract. Came from Chicago org. Has some NHL experience about 30 games.
- manvanfan




Potential call up when injuries his.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 25 @ 8:52 PM ET


Potential call up when injuries his.

- 1970vintage

Maybe. I'm not watching either game. Just checking score. See that both squads having some trouble scoring and being outshot at home the one team.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:57 PM ET


Potential call up when injuries his.

- 1970vintage

When injuries he is?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 8:59 PM ET
No idea who this Kalynuk kid is, but he looks good. AHL contract, or camp invitee?
- 1970vintage

He was in the young guns tourney & looked very solid. AHL contract.

Correction 1-way NHL deal
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Sep 25 @ 9:01 PM ET
Maybe. I'm not watching either game. Just checking score. See that both squads having some trouble scoring and being outshot at home the one team.
- manvanfan


Pre-season hockey is unwatchable
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Sep 25 @ 9:03 PM ET
Dallas paid quite a bit for sure. However, it's only fair to point out that the Rags depth at RHD is amazing. It's quite possible any of them would be our best RHD.
- golfingsince

His minor league stats are concerning.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 25 @ 9:04 PM ET
Pre-season hockey is unwatchable
- Rang

Far too scrambly. No sustained quality viewing.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Sep 25 @ 9:05 PM ET
Far too scrambly. No sustained quality viewing.
- Nighthawk


Agreed
By the time they get to the last game of pre-season it's more the regulars and the intensity ramps up.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Sep 25 @ 9:12 PM ET
His minor league stats are concerning.
- Shuswap Wap

I attribute much of that to not wanting to be there. Is it childish or unprofessional ? I think so but he's also just 22 years old and gets a fresh start where he's actually needed instead of being a surplus.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 25 @ 9:21 PM ET
Podz effortlessly walked that goal past the line.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 25 @ 9:22 PM ET
Mikheyev already injured.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
Maybe. I'm not watching either game. Just checking score. See that both squads having some trouble scoring and being outshot at home the one team.
- manvanfan


It’s a PP/PK fest. Rathbone has been pretty good, Dries, Kalynuk. The skill guys are having trouble, too choppy still.

Think the AHL Canucks will actually be pretty good this year.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 9:29 PM ET
When injuries he is?
- Marwood


LOL
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