Let’s see if a record can be set.

Of course weather could be poopty.

113 points: Washington 72, Giants 41 (Nov. 27, 1966) - that’s the record… I think Josh has 72 in him. Lol
- Gr8daygo

I’ve mentioned this before

McDermott’s system depends on the safeties and d line.

Corners in the system. You can plug and play 99% of the time. (13 seconds)

The issue obviously we don’t have safeties with any experience. So who knows how they handle the dolphins

I love the Z-train. We all know this. The above paragraph and what it implies is rubbish. Girgs being in the lineup would rank somewhere around 12th - 15th reason why the team played well down the stretch.
- lacaprup

Also remember the season we had without girgensons......... BRUTAL.


Team suffered and we picked #1OA.

I'd say keeping girgensons healthy is a top 10 goal coming out of camp.


Also, what's the parlay on a 13-9 final score in the Bill's game?
Miami +4.5 under 53 total points.

Seems like a Bill's beatdown and big points scored, vegas is sneaky

Also remember the season we had without girgensons......... BRUTAL.


Team suffered and we picked #1OA.

I'd say keeping girgensons healthy is a top 10 goal coming out of camp.


Also, what's the parlay on a 13-9 final score in the Bill's game?
Miami +4.5 under 53 total points.

Seems like a Bill's beatdown and big points scored, vegas is sneaky
- Boss34

I cannot do that bet on a parley, but getting a correct score on it's own (13 - 10 as I couldn't get 13 - 9) is +29,000.

parlaying Miami +4.5 and the under is +235

Well both Safeties and Johnson, Lewis and Neal have all been here for 3yrs know. See how much those rookie CB's have developed and Miami's Oline is beat up. Should be a wild game.
- Buff36

Dolphins are a little banged up in their secondary, too. Howard will be playing hurt, I think another starter may be out, too, not sure.

Also remember the season we had without girgensons......... BRUTAL.


Team suffered and we picked #1OA.

I'd say keeping girgensons healthy is a top 10 goal coming out of camp.

- Boss34

I certainly want a healthy Z on the 4th line, but I can't ever expect him to be a team catalyst other than a big or dirty hit on occasion. He certainly should and will continue to be a locker room leader, but on ice I think Vic getting healthy was way more important last year and this year. I also would say the addition of Sammy was crucial to the jump in play the last two months.

Of course, we'll soon know how much being out of the running had to do with it. I can't say I don't have some small doubts (without even touching the goalies).

If you go by just this article ( and of course I'm going off just this article)

Expect:
Double digit goals
Position for the betterment of the team
Flexibility
Penalty kill ability

Basically looking at an eric lindros- lite type season, with donnie's sweet sweet whispers slipping directly in gus's receptive ear canal.
- Boss34

I didn’t even read what you wrote the oh my was strictly for the fluffer.

I'm not sure if you got a chance to read the whole article.

Lots of girgensons "fluffing"

As the longest-tenured Sabre on the roster, Girgensons has played for five head coaches since making his NHL debut in 2013. Ownership has fired three general managers since Girgensons’ selection with the 14th pick in the 2012 draft. Now, at 28 years old, he is regarded as an invaluable leader in the dressing room and he, along with Kyle Okposo, are credited with changing the team’s culture.

Girgensons’ worker-beelike approach to a checking-line role was a catalyst for the Sabres upon his return from injury in March. Over the final 22 games with Girgensons in the lineup, Buffalo went 12-7-3 for a .614 points percentage that ranked 14th in the NHL during that span.

Entering his ninth season, and the final year of his contract, Girgensons will again be asked to provide versatility, energy, physicality and speed. But it’s unclear where he’ll be lining up when the season opens on Oct. 13.


2 vs. 1 on this one ion.

Me and the writer vs you
- Boss34

Sure. You just forgot facts, basing your argument on opinion.

In those last 22 games he played, he produced 3-2-5. 2 of those goals came in a loss. 2 assists came in loses. In 22 games he produced 1 G in a winning effort.
That's why the writer is a joke in this article. He has confused team success with Giggels contribution. He is actually a detriment on the PK as well.

His biggest contribution is a waste of 14 minutes a night...nothing good happens from his line's possession metrics.

Give him 4C duties, let him contribute in the locker room...then ship him off to say thanks for an absolute brutal career he has had to endure here. Maybe someone gives Adams a conditional 7th.

Sure. You just forgot facts, basing your argument on opinion.

In those last 22 games he played, he produced 3-2-5. 2 of those goals came in a loss. 2 assists came in loses. In 22 games he produced 1 G in a winning effort.
That's why the writer is a joke in this article. He has confused team success with Giggels contribution. He is actually a detriment on the PK as well.

His biggest contribution is a waste of 14 minutes a night...nothing good happens from his line's possession metrics.

Give him 4C duties, let him contribute in the locker room...then ship him off to say thanks for an absolute brutal career he has had to endure here. Maybe someone gives Adams a conditional 7th.
- IonSabres

That’s a little harsh. He is mistaken as a good PK forward no doubt but he’s a guy you want on your 4th line for a playoff run.

Very strong defensive metrics and can pitch in with a goal here and there in your bottom 6.

I think Asplund makes him a bit redundant moving forward though

That’s a little harsh. He is mistaken as a good PK forward no doubt but he’s a guy you want on your 4th line for a playoff run.

Very strong defensive metrics and can pitch in with a goal here and there in your bottom 6.

I think Asplund makes him a bit redundant moving forward though
- Pegullaville

It is harsh, but fair and balanced.
I said the 4C is perfect for him this season...largely cause there isn't any better options though.
Previously, I did post that him being traded to a contender would be the right thing to do in recognition of his time served...kinda like dismissing the rest of his sentence for good behaivor.

Anytime he contributes anything offensively related is a positive. The sooner he is pushed out of the lineup, the better, as it means the potential for improvement is real.

It is harsh, but fair and balanced.
I said the 4C is perfect for him this season...largely cause there isn't any better options though.
Previously, I did post that him being traded to a contender would be the right thing to do in recognition of his time served...kinda like dismissing the rest of his sentence for good behaivor.

Anytime he contributes anything offensively related is a positive. The sooner he is pushed out of the lineup, the better, as it means the potential for improvement is real.
- IonSabres

Not necessarily directed at you, but guys like Larsson, Girgensons, Asplund over the years I think get extra hate because the top 6 of the roster doesn’t do their job.

Any of those three guys would be monsters on a contender bringing what they bring a night in night out basis.

Barclay Goodrow got vastly overpaid and is massively overrated now because Tampa won a cup but I’d take Girgensons and Asplund over him any day of the week.

Optics matter

The hatred toward girgensons aka a 4th liner is hilarious.

28 is a perfectly good 4th liner. We had John Hayden last year on the 4th line.


If anyone says you rather have Hayden over girgensons is kidding themselves.

Girgensons is coming off his first back-to-back, double-digit goal seasons. He’s a defensive stalwart, selflessly throws his body in front of shots when trying to protect his net and remains an exceptional penalty-killer. Perhaps the only argument against him winning the fourth-line center job is that he’s been so reliable on the wing. But the Sabres’ competition at forward, particularly the potential arrivals of Jack Quinn and JJ Peterka, will force Granato to be creative to ice the best lineup possible.


Lunaion- sounds like girgs is lining up at center 🤔
- Boss34

Friendly reminder, Girgs started camp last year at C too. He's not good at C. Forcing him there is a bad plan.

Also, how many goals did he have in 20-21. 00 is not double digits.

The hatred toward girgensons aka a 4th liner is hilarious.

28 is a perfectly good 4th liner. We had John Hayden last year on the 4th line.


If anyone says you rather have Hayden over girgensons is kidding themselves.
- Sabretooth9

Nothing against Girgs, but a LW4 of this
Skinner
Mitts
JJ
Asplund
looks better to me

Friendly reminder, Girgs started camp last year at C too. He's not good at C. Forcing him there is a bad plan.

Also, how many goals did he have in 20-21. 00 is not double digits.
- Lunaion

I appreciate the friendly reminder, considering nobody is quite as friendly around here.....

I completely agree, a little more voice from donnie the center whisperer, the better girgensons plays at center.

Needed more time last year , plug was pulled early on girgensons at center.

Nothing against Girgs, but a LW4 of this
Skinner
Mitts
JJ
Asplund
looks better to me
- Buff36

He's the only person equipped to be the 4th C though, as it seems they've decided Asplund is a LW only. I don't think they want to relegate Cozens there, and Krebs or Mitts would be broken quickly if they tried.

He's the only person equipped to be the 4th C though, as it seems they've decided Asplund is a LW only. I don't think they want to relegate Cozens there, and Krebs or Mitts would be broken quickly if they tried.
- lacaprup

Not if a particular rookie steps up and takes a spot, it's a lot to ask, but he is good on the Dot and his 200ft game has improved immensely the last year.

Not necessarily directed at you, but guys like Larsson, Girgensons, Asplund over the years I think get extra hate because the top 6 of the roster doesn’t do their job.

Any of those three guys would be monsters on a contender bringing what they bring a night in night out basis.

Barclay Goodrow got vastly overpaid and is massively overrated now because Tampa won a cup but I’d take Girgensons and Asplund over him any day of the week.

Optics matter
- Pegullaville

Girgs would indeed be perfect for a contender to acquire.
On a 4th line for a team of that quality, the need to waste 14 minutes a night with possession that results in nothing but time chewed off the clock is in fact an asset for winning. No doubt.
That is what I mean by wasting 14 minutes a night.

Let's face facts, in a tie game or down 1 needing a goal in the last 10 minutes, I doubt he sees 30 seconds of time on a contender.

And for the writer to cite team success in the last 22 games, in which he produced 1 goal in a winning effort is laughable at best. That is the original point made, and it stands on its own.

bills 45

fins 17

Girgs would indeed be perfect for a contender to acquire.
On a 4th line for a team of that quality, the need to waste 14 minutes a night with possession that results in nothing but time chewed off the clock is in fact an asset for winning. No doubt.
That is what I mean by wasting 14 minutes a night.

Let's face facts, in a tie game or down 1 needing a goal in the last 10 minutes, I doubt he sees 30 seconds of time on a contender.

And for the writer to cite team success in the last 22 games, in which he produced 1 goal in a winning effort is laughable at best. That is the original point made, and it stands on its own.
- IonSabres

poor man's pat kaleta

He's the only person equipped to be the 4th C though, as it seems they've decided Asplund is a LW only. I don't think they want to relegate Cozens there, and Krebs or Mitts would be broken quickly if they tried.
- lacaprup

Completely agree.

Basically using girgensons as an eric lindros 4th line type center..... over asplund for sure.

Asplund is Way too small to play 4C in the nhl

Morse out too

I appreciate the friendly reminder, considering nobody is quite as friendly around here.....

I completely agree, a little more voice from donnie the center whisperer, the better girgensons plays at center.

Needed more time last year , plug was pulled early on girgensons at center.
- Boss34

Tage was their 3rd option to try at C last year. Really think they should have waited longer to try that, just to see an old man struggle at C again?

Girgs would indeed be perfect for a contender to acquire.
On a 4th line for a team of that quality, the need to waste 14 minutes a night with possession that results in nothing but time chewed off the clock is in fact an asset for winning. No doubt.
That is what I mean by wasting 14 minutes a night.

Let's face facts, in a tie game or down 1 needing a goal in the last 10 minutes, I doubt he sees 30 seconds of time on a contender.

And for the writer to cite team success in the last 22 games, in which he produced 1 goal in a winning effort is laughable at best. That is the original point made, and it stands on its own.
- IonSabres

These posts make 0 sense.

Girgensons cant play here on an 80- 85 point team

Girgensons would be perfect for a contender to acquire.

It's too early to be drinking uncle ion....

Not if a particular rookie steps up and takes a spot, it's a lot to ask, but he is good on the Dot and his 200ft game has improved immensely the last year.
- Buff36

It is. It would have to be an exceptionally tough and mature rookie to play the role for Buffalo Eakin played last year. The Sabres 4th line was almost always the matchup against the opposition's top line. That's a big, big ask for a rookie. Austin Matthew's will be salivating.

It is. It would have to be an exceptionally tough and mature rookie to play the role for Buffalo Eakin played last year. The Sabres 4th line was almost always the matchup against the opposition's top line. That's a big, big ask for a rookie. Austin Matthew's will be salivating.
- lacaprup

Well it's the year to find out, and I think Kozak could become that player