Agree with everything here.

Can someone please tell me why the Sens didn't take Cole Sillinger and does anyone agree they should've selected him.
- AlfieisKing

Boucher's taken a beating among armchair GMs, so you frequently see the organization pumping his tires to counteract the skepticism. He does play a high tempo crash and bash style, but his notably decent draft year numbers were in the USDP, not the USHL. USDP, BCHL, SweHL, junior Liiga, VHL, MHL - guys who put up decent to good numbers in these leagues are worth a look, but rarely in the first round. JBD is another example of one of these rather off board picks. While it is likely both might be decent bottom line NHLers, the draft capital is better invested on more proven potential.

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Noon on Sunday Habs/Sens.....on the Habs youtube channel there will be commentary unlike the last game!

Well that was forgettable. Crookshank looked OK. I also noticed Latimer a bit. Pretty uninspiring.

lets hope the rookie games are not a sign of things to come for the main team this season....

Well that was forgettable. Crookshank looked OK. I also noticed Latimer a bit. Pretty uninspiring.
- Whatisavailable

This is the risk they took when they started drafting players with bottom-6 upside in the 1st/2nd rounds of the draft. From what I've seen, nobody outside of Crookshank, Pinto, and Sanderson have shown much of anything, and virtually all of the players coming into training camp with major question marks have done little to address them. Ostapchuk can be given a pass based on his WJC performance, and I guess Sogaard/Mandolese aren't being given much to work with, but overall it seems like a bit a $hitshow

Well that was forgettable. Crookshank looked OK. I also noticed Latimer a bit. Pretty uninspiring.
- Whatisavailable

Goaltending was awful too!!

This is the risk they took when they started drafting players with bottom-6 upside in the 1st/2nd rounds of the draft. From what I've seen, nobody outside of Crookshank, Pinto, and Sanderson have shown much of anything, and virtually all of the players coming into training camp with major question marks have done little to address them. Ostapchuk can be given a pass based on his WJC performance, and I guess Sogaard/Mandolese aren't being given much to work with, but overall it seems like a bit a $hitshow
- khawk

Yup you nailed it.....well said! Grinders.....ugh.....not enough skill.....

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This is the risk they took when they started drafting players with bottom-6 upside in the 1st/2nd rounds of the draft. From what I've seen, nobody outside of Crookshank, Pinto, and Sanderson have shown much of anything, and virtually all of the players coming into training camp with major question marks have done little to address them. Ostapchuk can be given a pass based on his WJC performance, and I guess Sogaard/Mandolese aren't being given much to work with, but overall it seems like a bit a $hitshow
- khawk

The flip side of that is that if you only have the skill guys you get swept 4 games straight by Columbus!

I've said before that if they are intent on trading their first round pick they really should top ten protect it. Their top six looks strong on paper but even if they bring in a Chychrun or Weeger or Tanev or some such their D is still too young overall, unless you're going to hang your hat on Hamonic or Zaitsev or some other "elite" veteran acquisition; and if it turns out they really didn't solve their goaltending, which I suspect might be the case, then they are going to finish in the middle of the pack and very likely in the lottery.

There will be improvement though and if one or more of Sanderson or Thomson or JBD blossom this year and if Talbot has morphed into a reliable netminder since his Edmonton days and if Smith actually plays his best players then they very likely will be in the post season; but there are just too many ifs in that equation for my taste.

The flip side of that is that if you only have the skill guys you get swept 4 games straight by Columbus!
- Whatisavailable

I definitely appreciate the value of roster balance... but picking Boucher, Ostapchuk, and Roger with those picks... my God, you MAYBE pick one of those guys as a reach pick, but not all 3 in the same year. I know Sillinger has become a tiresome buzz word around the Boucher issue, but honestly there were at least 8-10 guys on the board at #10 overall who would have been amazing roster additions. Ostapchuk looks like he might pan out to some extent, but that pick cost them a chance at Stankoven, Morrow, or Pinelli. The Roger pick cost them a chance at Chibrikov, Ratu, or Knies. And before anyone goes talking about Monday morning QB, 4 of the players I just mentioned were picked by TSN as first-round quality talent, all of them consensus ranked ahead of Tyler Boucher in their final standings.
https://www.tsn.ca/bob-mc...-draft-rankings-1.1669727

They could have walked away from the 2021 draft with 3 first-round quality prospects... by doing nothing but follow a consensus BPA strategy. Instead, they went bat $hit crazy off the board, and wound up with none. It's not even a matter of opinion any more, it's a matter of the team needing to learn how to never EVER repeat that draft performance again in the future.

I definitely appreciate the value of roster balance... but picking Boucher, Ostapchuk, and Roger with those picks... my God, you MAYBE pick one of those guys as a reach pick, but not all 3 in the same year. I know Sillinger has become a tiresome buzz word around the Boucher issue, but honestly there were at least 8-10 guys on the board at #10 overall who would have been amazing roster additions. Ostapchuk looks like he might pan out to some extent, but that pick cost them a chance at Stankoven, Morrow, or Pinelli. The Roger pick cost them a chance at Chibrikov, Ratu, or Knies. And before anyone goes talking about Monday morning QB, 4 of the players I just mentioned were picked by TSN as first-round quality talent, all of them consensus ranked ahead of Tyler Boucher in their final standings.
https://www.tsn.ca/bob-mc...-draft-rankings-1.1669727

They could have walked away from the 2021 draft with 3 first-round quality prospects... by doing nothing but follow a consensus BPA strategy. Instead, they went bat $hit crazy off the board, and wound up with none. It's not even a matter of opinion any more, it's a matter of the team needing to learn how to never EVER repeat that draft performance again in the future.
- khawk

It's really sad the way those picks seem to have been squandered. Reminds me a bit of when Boston had those 3 first round picks in 2015 and didn't take Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Ek, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier or Sebastien Aho but opted for Zboril and Senyshyn instead. How do you explain that? It's impossible to explain.

I haven't seen much to make me optimistic about Ostapchuk, Roger or Boucher but they seem to have been picked for size and speed as the primary considerations in a year where there seems to have been very little actual scouting going on and one can only hope that one or more of those guys pan out. I did see Roger cream a few guys off the puck in that game against Montreal. We'll see.

I definitely appreciate the value of roster balance... but picking Boucher, Ostapchuk, and Roger with those picks... my God, you MAYBE pick one of those guys as a reach pick, but not all 3 in the same year. I know Sillinger has become a tiresome buzz word around the Boucher issue, but honestly there were at least 8-10 guys on the board at #10 overall who would have been amazing roster additions. Ostapchuk looks like he might pan out to some extent, but that pick cost them a chance at Stankoven, Morrow, or Pinelli. The Roger pick cost them a chance at Chibrikov, Ratu, or Knies. And before anyone goes talking about Monday morning QB, 4 of the players I just mentioned were picked by TSN as first-round quality talent, all of them consensus ranked ahead of Tyler Boucher in their final standings.
https://www.tsn.ca/bob-mc...-draft-rankings-1.1669727

They could have walked away from the 2021 draft with 3 first-round quality prospects... by doing nothing but follow a consensus BPA strategy. Instead, they went bat $hit crazy off the board, and wound up with none. It's not even a matter of opinion any more, it's a matter of the team needing to learn how to never EVER repeat that draft performance again in the future.
- khawk

There is a trend with this organization to reach on players when there is a perceived organizational need. Lassi Thomson (RHD), JBD (RHD) and Boucher (hard power forward) would certainly be prime examples of this. When they say they take the Best Player Available, they have as much credibility as DJ Smith saying that the best players will play.
Overall, the scouting staff has done a pretty decent job by getting very important players such as Tkachuk, Stutzle, Sanderson and Pinto. If they had hit on the Thomson, JBD and Boucher picks, this organization could easily add the top 4 RHD and be ready to compete right now.

ANyone watch the controversial hits that everyone is talking about ?

Does anyone else think the risk-to-reward move of signing PK Subban to a 1 year $2M deal (and moving Zaitsev) would be a smart decision.... I wouldn't be surprised if he goes somewhere on a 1 year deal and does well and earns a longer term deal

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I thought more fans would post to support the francophone fans in Gatineau that always gets ignored by this organization. It truly is awful.
Didnt anyone else try the trivia?

The prospect challenge didn't go too well on a result basis for the Sens.

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- AlfieisKing

To think this idiot coach gave Zaitsev an A on a rotating basis last year is just even more ridiculous when looking at these 3 guys.

Does anyone else think the risk-to-reward move of signing PK Subban to a 1 year $2M deal (and moving Zaitsev) would be a smart decision.... I wouldn't be surprised if he goes somewhere on a 1 year deal and does well and earns a longer term deal
- AlfieisKing

There are already enough one way deals on defence with this team. You need the youth now getting all the reps in the pre-season, not having a vet that has last 3 steps skating lol taking those reps.

ANyone watch the controversial hits that everyone is talking about ?
- david22

Meathead moves. Just utter stupidity.

This is the risk they took when they started drafting players with bottom-6 upside in the 1st/2nd rounds of the draft. From what I've seen, nobody outside of Crookshank, Pinto, and Sanderson have shown much of anything, and virtually all of the players coming into training camp with major question marks have done little to address them. Ostapchuk can be given a pass based on his WJC performance, and I guess Sogaard/Mandolese aren't being given much to work with, but overall it seems like a bit a $hitshow
- khawk

2 goals by Crookshank today agasnst Buffalo.

2 goals by Crookshank today agasnst Buffalo.
- LawyerSens4Life

Crookshank has to be the team's most underrated prospect. He's also a great example of a player that makes his own luck by over-achieving when given opportunity. Hopefully he finds his way into the NHL fold at some point in the near future.

Have seen rumors that Ethan Bear may be available from Carolina... that would be a nice add, as a natural RHD who could play a decent 4/5 role. Would far rather see that vs. PTO players, or the table scraps offerings at waivers time.

Crookshank has to be the team's most underrated prospect. He's also a great example of a player that makes his own luck by over-achieving when given opportunity. Hopefully he finds his way into the NHL fold at some point in the near future.
- khawk

Dorion seems high on him too. I could see him getting a shot eventually on the big club.