The flip side is the best top 9 in the league though. - 1970vintage
It would make sense to most to have a good NHL team and not a great prospect pool.
2017 Flyers were ranked #1
Philadelphia Flyers
The Flyers have built a system that is deep at nearly every position. They got the second overall pick in the draft and took Nolan Patrick, who we had as our top rated prospect pre-draft. Winger Oskar Lindblom comes to North America this year and could make an NHL impact. Tanner Laczynski had a strong season with Ohio State. The Flyers also have German Rutsov, Mikhail Vorobyev, Pascal Laberge, and Morgan Frost at centre. On the wing Nicolas Aube-Kubel, Wade Allison, Cole Bardreau, Isaac Ratcliffe, and Matthew Strome all have a chance to develop into NHL players.
The Flyers blue line has been a particular source of strength in recent years with Ivan Provorov and Shayne Gostisbehere already making NHL impacts. While they are no longer considered prospects, the team still has top prospects on the blue line with Philippe Myers and Travis Sanheim. Fellow defenders Sam Morin, Robert Hagg, and Mark Freidman could become excellent depth pieces.
In goal, Carter Hart is one of the top goalie prospects in the world. Anthony Stolarz, was good in a small sample at the NHL level last year. He should be NHL ready soon. Alex Lyon, Matej Tomek, Kirill Ustimenko, and Felix Sandstrom, provide plenty of depth. The Flyers have the best prospect group in the league. They also own the St. Louis Blues 2018 first round pick (lottery protected), so things could get even better going forward.
They should have won a cup by now with that #1 prospect pool.
It would make sense to most to have a good NHL team and not a great prospect pool.
2017 Flyers were ranked #1
They should have won a cup by now with that #1 prospect pool. - manvanfan
I disagree with you, and your position makes zero sense to me based off of the amount of time you put into watching and posting about prospects.
To me, after a decade of losing the team should have both a good NHL roster AND a good pool of prospects. Because the Flyers are a horribly run organization doesn’t make it ok for the Canucks to be in a similar situation. Hopefully this has changed moving forward.
I disagree with you, and your position makes zero sense to me based off of the amount of time you put into watching and posting about prospects.
To me, after a decade of losing the team should have both a good NHL roster AND a good pool of prospects. Because the Flyers are a horribly run organization doesn’t make it ok for the Canucks to be in a similar situation. Hopefully this has changed moving forward. - 1970vintage
Umm, yes it does. Where have you been over the past few years?
Jurmo looked really good in the games I saw him play a the WJHC, to me it all comes down to how he can translate that style to a men's league. - NorthNuck
That's sort of the problem with him. Skates like the wind when he's got time and space against his own competition but when he gets into tougher league where there is less time and space, he's struggled. Playing 15 minutes a night in Liiga and not scoring a lot, doesn't produce a lot of NHL defenders.
That's sort of the problem with him. Skates like the wind when he's got time and space against his own competition but when he gets into tougher league where there is less time and space, he's struggled. Playing 15 minutes a night in Liiga and not scoring a lot, doesn't produce a lot of NHL defenders. - manvanfan
Maybe NA ice will help him when he eventually comes over? Big and mobile is always a nice combo to have.
I disagree with you, and your position makes zero sense to me based off of the amount of time you put into watching and posting about prospects.
To me, after a decade of losing the team should have both a good NHL roster AND a good pool of prospects. Because the Flyers are a horribly run organization doesn’t make it ok for the Canucks to be in a similar situation. Hopefully this has changed moving forward. - 1970vintage
It makes sense to me because if you have good prospects, they will graduate to the NHL and the pool will always fall because you are graduating players. You can add a player back into your pool but as you add more good players to the NHL roster, the team should get better and you are less likely to be adding a player of the same quality back into the prospect pool.
I would much rather have NHL players over a great prospect pool because if you have a great prospect pool for long period of time, it means the players aren't graduating to NHLer's.
You can have both but that would take much longer than a decade considering if you get 2 NHL players out of any draft, you've done well.
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Yes the picks are real important. Though if they have on ice success and need to trade futures for improvement, is it justified? - Quinn's Quest
As teams improve their prospect pool/picks will dwindle a bit and as they get worse they will improve based off higher picks, cap dumps, selling players off etc. Not Rocket Science.
It makes sense to me because if you have good prospects, they will graduate to the NHL and the pool will always fall because you are graduating players. You can add a player back into your pool but as you add more good players to the NHL roster, the team should get better and you are less likely to be adding a player of the same quality back into the prospect pool.
I would much rather have NHL players over a great prospect pool because if you have a great prospect pool for long period of time, it means the players aren't graduating to NHLer's.
You can have both but that would take much longer than a decade considering if you get 2 NHL players out of any draft, you've done well. - manvanfan
Yes yes, there will be fluctuation etc over time, but it’s not like there are a couple cups in the bank right now for how depleted the prospect pool is. It’s shameful how poorly run the team has been over the past several regimes.
Yes the picks are real important. Though if they have on ice success and need to trade futures for improvement, is it justified? - Quinn's Quest
Huh?
If a player has success (on ice) why would they (I’m assuming you mean the team) need to trade futures to improve? Isn’t that on ice success the improvement?
As teams improve their prospect pool/picks will dwindle a bit and as they get worse they will improve based off higher picks, cap dumps, selling players off etc. Not Rocket Science. - LordHumungous
If a player has success (on ice) why would they (I’m assuming you mean the team) need to trade futures to improve? Isn’t that on ice success the improvement? - 1970vintage
