I didn't think you meant me... I just wanted to chime in. My disdain for Virtanen coupled with the fact that he is a terrible hockey player I felt like I needed to drop my two cents. Innocent or not he is a douche bag and the Oilers already have one and don't need another.
- Reveen

Virtanen would actually help fill a gap lost with Kassian gone. He can fight if he has to and he can move up/down all 4 lines if need be. Mostly a 3rd liner but can play top 6 minutes if there are injuries. If you can get him cheap do it. Skates well and has a great shot. Just doesn't have the Hockey sense to go with the speed kind of like Kassian a bit lol and would need to be sheltered.

Virtanen would actually help fill a gap lost with Kassian gone. He can fight if he has to and he can move up/down all 4 lines if need be. Mostly a 3rd liner but can play top 6 minutes if there are injuries. If you can get him cheap do it. Skates well and has a great shot. Just doesn't have the Hockey sense to go with the speed kind of like Kassian a bit lol and would need to be sheltered.
- LordHumungous

Another defensively-shortbus winger with "toughness" isn't something the team should be focusing on. I'd rather add a stout defender like Aston-Reese to fill the physicality gap.

Another defensively-shortbus winger with "toughness" isn't something the team should be focusing on. I'd rather add a stout defender like Aston-Reese to fill the physicality gap.
- MaximumBone

Aston-Reese just chose the Leafs over the Oilers

Another defensively-shortbus winger with "toughness" isn't something the team should be focusing on. I'd rather add a stout defender like Aston-Reese to fill the physicality gap.
- MaximumBone

Id rather spend a roster spot on a player like Evan Rodrigues

Id rather spend a roster spot on a player like Evan Rodrigues
- Reveen

Ugh. He trips over his lips all the time.

Aston-Reese just chose the Leafs over the Oilers
- Reveen

It's just a PTO. The Oilers could still sign him ala Versteeg a few years ago, but that's hardly a common occurrence.

Id rather spend a roster spot on a player like Evan Rodrigues
- Reveen

The problem being he's likely going to command significantly more than league minimum. ZAR was attractive as an addition because of his specific skillset @ ~750k.

It's just a PTO. The Oilers could still sign him ala Versteeg a few years ago, but that's hardly a common occurrence.
- MaximumBone

Well he signed in Toronto only minutes after Spector said the oilers wanted him. So that speaks volumes.

Sean Maloughney: In No Particular Order: Hall of Fame, Virtanen, PTO's and More
- freelancer

an ugly picture starts getting painted about the values of the Oilers organization
That ugly picture is that the Oilers don't subscribe to cancel culture?

an ugly picture starts getting painted about the values of the Oilers organization
That ugly picture is that the Oilers don't subscribe to cancel culture?
- leonkennedy

What a great take. Shouldn’t be surprised it’s from a hawks fan.

Another defensively-shortbus winger with "toughness" isn't something the team should be focusing on. I'd rather add a stout defender like Aston-Reese to fill the physicality gap.
- MaximumBone

Oil need to 'focus' on getting their bottom 6 shored up for PO's. JV adds speed/shot and some physicality to the mix for cheap.

Rev incoming to defend Virtanen in 3, 2, 1….
- TurdFergeson

LOL I had to go back and read how that thread played out that you thought I was defending Virtanen. I was not, I was defending Kane in that thread. That makes that whole conversation awkward as (frank) now lol I would not put that much effort into defending Virtanen because I would have agreed with your statement in that last thread. I did not make it clear in my first response I was talking about Kane, that's my bad.

LOL I had to go back and read how that thread played out that you thought I was defending Virtanen. I was not, I was defending Kane in that thread. That makes that whole conversation awkward as (frank) now lol I would not put that much effort into defending Virtanen because I would have agreed with your statement in that last thread. I did not make it clear in my first response I was talking about Kane, that's my bad.
- Rev

Kane has been accused by four different women of assault in some capacity.

The gambling is whatever, the attitude, again, whatever. But where there's smoke, there is fire.

Hey bumholes! What are we arguing about today?
I’m gonna chime in about rape and the court of law. First off, without video evidence or DNA evidence it’s hard to convict. Maybe some of you have been raped before but in case you haven’t or are not close to a victim the vast majority of women that are victims of sexual assault take a considerable amount of time to report the crime. Too long, in most cases, as the wounds heal and the DNA dries up , gets scrubbed off and goes down the drain, so anyone who claims a dude is innocent because there was no evidence is a (frank)tard who knows nothing. What evidence could there possibly be?
As for the victims character? Thats the number one item a defence team looks at in the hopes they get a tight ass judge or a bunch of Christians making the final judgement. People who look at women’s that enjoy casual sex as much as the average man often label them as a slut or a woman of low morals and loose virtues. It’s total bullpoop and most you incells know it, but time after time the court of law see’s it that way as well.
So regardless of his exoneration, (frank) Jake Virtanen.

Hey bumholes! What are we arguing about today?
I’m gonna chime in about rape and the court of law. First off, without video evidence or DNA evidence it’s hard to convict. Maybe some of you have been raped before but in case you haven’t or are not close to a victim the vast majority of women that are victims of sexual assault take a considerable amount of time to report the crime. Too long, in most cases, as the wounds heal and the DNA dries up , gets scrubbed off and goes down the drain, so anyone who claims a dude is innocent because there was no evidence is a (frank)tard who knows nothing. What evidence could there possibly be?
As for the victims character? Thats the number one item a defence team looks at in the hopes they get a tight ass judge or a bunch of Christians making the final judgement. People who look at women’s that enjoy casual sex as much as the average man often label them as a slut or a woman of low morals and loose virtues. It’s total bullpoop and most you incells know it, but time after time the court of law see’s it that way as well.
So regardless of his exoneration, (frank) Jake Virtanen.
- HonkyTonkMan

Kane has been accused by four different women of assault in some capacity.

The gambling is whatever, the attitude, again, whatever. But where there's smoke, there is fire.
- Oilers4Life14

Your 100% correct. That’s a bit too much smoke for a guy to just be a lightning rod. People don’t care though, so long as he produces. At least Iggy stood by hs convictions and quit supporting the team.....unlike the rest of you who could care less if he was a rapist, pedo or woman beater if he scores timely goals. Admit it.

- TurdFergeson

Jesus can Kiss my ass but, yeah.

Hey bumholes! What are we arguing about today?
I’m gonna chime in about rape and the court of law. First off, without video evidence or DNA evidence it’s hard to convict. Maybe some of you have been raped before but in case you haven’t or are not close to a victim the vast majority of women that are victims of sexual assault take a considerable amount of time to report the crime. Too long, in most cases, as the wounds heal and the DNA dries up , gets scrubbed off and goes down the drain, so anyone who claims a dude is innocent because there was no evidence is a (frank)tard who knows nothing. What evidence could there possibly be?
As for the victims character? Thats the number one item a defence team looks at in the hopes they get a tight ass judge or a bunch of Christians making the final judgement. People who look at women’s that enjoy casual sex as much as the average man often label them as a slut or a woman of low morals and loose virtues. It’s total bullpoop and most you incells know it, but time after time the court of law see’s it that way as well.

So regardless of his exoneration, (frank) Jake Virtanen.
- HonkyTonkMan

A commendable rant; much (if not all) of what you say is true.

But with that said, what of the cases (few as they may be) where the accused is genuinely innocent? Are we to assume that EVERY individual who has been tried for a sexual offence is guilty, regardless of what the courts decide?

The system for ascertaining guilt in such incidences is certainly flawed. That I’ll not deny. But what alternative do you suggest society use?

A commendable rant; much (if not all) of what you say is true.

But with that said, what of the cases (few as they may be) where the accused is genuinely innocent? Are we to assume that EVERY individual who has been tried for a sexual offence is guilty, regardless of what the courts decide?

The system for ascertaining guilt in such incidences is certainly flawed. That I’ll not deny. But what alternative do you suggest society use?
- Wildschwein

There isn’t a fool proof way without eye witness testimony , DNA or video evidence. There really isn’t, unless the creep took home a trophy and was caught with it, everything else is circumstantial. If the guy is a celebrity it makes for a stronger case for fraud for sure, and he’s likely to get away with it. For every woman that presses charges there’s 10 victims that don’t because they know damn well every lay she ever had is gonna come up in court, and it’s her that will be put on trial.
I’ve met more dudes that hate women and/or see them as little more than sexual conquests than dudes that have a strong enough egos to handle a bit of rejection and it’s not even close. The dudes that automatically jump to calling tue accuser a gold digger fall into one of those categories 99% of time….guess which one?

There isn’t a fool proof way without eye witness testimony , DNA or video evidence. There really isn’t, unless the creep took home a trophy and was caught with it, everything else is circumstantial. If the guy is a celebrity it makes for a stronger case for fraud for sure, and he’s likely to get away with it. For every woman that presses charges there’s 10 victims that don’t because they know damn well every lay she ever had is gonna come up in court, and it’s her that will be put on trial.
I’ve met more dudes that hate women and/or see them as little more than sexual conquests than dudes that have a strong enough egos to handle a bit of rejection and it’s not even close. The dudes that automatically jump to calling tue accuser a gold digger fall into one of those categories 99% of time….guess which one?
- HonkyTonkMan

What do you think a woman does when THEY get rejected by a man after sex?

What do you think a woman does when THEY get rejected by a man after sex?
- Rev

There’s always gotta be one incell to pose this question.😂
Pretty rare that they physically assault them. A guy with class and game knows how to let a woman off gently tho without shaming them. I’m sure they talk poop as bad as men do to their girlfriends tho.
You want to talk statistics of woman who are assaulted in their life time in comparison to men? Or are you gonna try and say that an alarming number of women falsely accuse men of rape after being scorned?

What do you think a woman does when THEY get rejected by a man after sex?
- Rev

They cry, go home and learn a tough lesson. Many dudes will lie, cheat, steal basically do anything for sex. Most women learn this the hard way. An extremely small number may try to get revenge. Kane has been accused by many women. Both Kanes actually. Evander and Pat. They’re garbage humans.

They cry, go home and learn a tough lesson. Many dudes will lie, cheat, steal basically do anything for sex. Most women learn this the hard way. An extremely small number may try to get revenge. Kane has been accused by many women. Both Kanes actually. Evander and Pat. They’re garbage humans.
- TurdFergeson

Most likely. This incell is gonna argue otherwise, and I hope he does it in front of as many female relations as possible so they know who they can’t trust when it eventually happens to them.

They cry, go home and learn a tough lesson. Many dudes will lie, cheat, steal basically do anything for sex. Most women learn this the hard way. An extremely small number may try to get revenge. Kane has been accused by many women. Both Kanes actually. Evander and Pat. They’re garbage humans.
- TurdFergeson

Lol nah

They cry, go home and learn a tough lesson. Many dudes will lie, cheat, steal basically do anything for sex. Most women learn this the hard way. An extremely small number may try to get revenge. Kane has been accused by many women. Both Kanes actually. Evander and Pat. They’re garbage humans.
- TurdFergeson

Hasn’t been my experience.