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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
What was his GAA and SV%?
- Scoob


My bad. I did not realize it was just goalies. I imagine Otto would have made a good goalie though.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
My bad. I did not realize it was just goalies. I imagine Otto would have made a good goalie though.
- mickel25


:-) all good and lol
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
:-) all good and lol
- Scoob


So Grosenick is a goalie? Legit did not know who he was. Gonna be a fun year.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
he had missed about 22% of his games due to injuries before the trade
- corduroy

Yea
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
Your post comparing different players that were nothing like the Ellis trade
- ClaudeFather

My post was about willingly getting into another long term contract which could turn out bad and it did turn out bad…

-Pronger, freak accident, over 35, long term contract.
-LeCavalier, aging player, signed to a long term contract we instantly wanted out of.
-Umberger, declining player prior to his trade, long term contract.
-Andrew MacDonald, sent to minors multiple times, long term contract.

Ryan Ellis, entering his 30’s, already injury prone. Long term contract. The Flyers aren’t learning from passed mistakes. Neither are some of the fans who were ever happy with this deal.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Everything goes right over your head huh
- ClaudeFather

It’s weird you have to reply to one of my posts twice…
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
So Grosenick is a goalie? Legit did not know who he was. Gonna be a fun year.
- mickel25


lol - none of us did. I feel really bad for Hart.
Flyerfan328
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Joined: 08.06.2018

Aug 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Those in the fantasy camp seemed to have more jump then the Flyers have had in years. I'm sure Oliver's wife might have a thing or two to say about his return in 2023.

Glad he's ok.

- hockeylover

Seems like the injury bug now extends to fantasy camp. Won’t be long before Flyers office staff start calling in sick to avoid similar career ending impairments.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
also the only
- Scoob

I just think of Kruk when I think the number 29 and Philly sports
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
My post was about willingly getting into another long term contract which could turn out bad and it did turn out bad…

-Pronger, freak accident, over 35, long term contract.
-LeCavalier, aging player, signed to a long term contract we instantly wanted out of.
-Umberger, declining player prior to his trade, long term contract.
-Andrew MacDonald, sent to minors multiple times, long term contract.

Ryan Ellis, entering his 30’s, already injury prone. Long term contract. The Flyers aren’t learning from passed mistakes. Neither are some of the fans who were ever happy with this deal.

- SuperSchennBros

This never gets old.
I already explained to you how these were different.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
It’s weird you have to reply to one of my posts twice…
- SuperSchennBros

It’s unfortunate that you need multiple posts to understand but here we are
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
This never gets old.
I already explained to you how these were different.

- ClaudeFather

And we disagree.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Aug 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
This team is going nowhere.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
It’s unfortunate that you need multiple posts to understand but here we are
- ClaudeFather

Just because you say it, doesn’t make you correct. Ryan Ellis was very much an injury prone player with a long term contract while enter his 30’s, which is exactly the type of deal the Flyers should have never Pursued. It doesn’t matter if the situation is “different” if the long term deal has red flags all over it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
lol - none of us did. I feel really bad for Hart.
- Scoob




Who knows, maybe now that he is the undisputed "guy" it will increase his confidence even more.

I just hope he stays relatively healthy.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
Well. It’s different since he will be on ltir. Funny a few weeks ago you were stating how great Vinny was and how his contract was fair and worth it basically.

The contract hurts but isn’t as obstructive as umberger.

Was a SS bros quote that didn’t work.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Well. It’s different since he will be on ltir. Funny a few weeks ago you were stating how great Vinny was and how his contract was fair and worth it basically.

The contract hurts but isn’t as obstructive as umberger.

Was a SS bros quote that didn’t work.

- Peter Richards

Umberger was a term swap, made no sense to mention him
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Aug 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Shouldn't we be hearing from the GM on Ellis 's status instead of our coach? I guess his feelings are hurt from all the backlash he has gotten lately. UpChuck is a coward too IMO.
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Aug 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
This team is going nowhere.
- Nh_kong


Not true. They’re going to do good enough to move out of the top 5 in the next draft.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Umberger was a term swap, made no sense to mention him
- ClaudeFather

It was long term for long term, one of which being shorter than the other. That shorter contract was attached to an already bad player. Hints why comparable..HISTORY
Sir_Robot_Farts
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.27.2020

Aug 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Once we put him on LTIR we will be under the cap! Yay!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
It was long term for long term, one of which being shorter than the other. That shorter contract was attached to an already bad player. Hints why comparable..HISTORY
- SuperSchennBros

You spell it out for yourself in these man, figure it out
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Who knows, maybe now that he is the undisputed "guy" it will increase his confidence even more.

I just hope he stays relatively healthy.

- MBFlyerfan


I'm not concerned about his confidence - it's the workload - it's going to be heavy in terms of games played as well as how taxing each individual game will be - he's going to face a lot of high quality shots
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm not concerned about his confidence - it's the workload - it's going to be heavy in terms of games played as well as how taxing each individual game will be - he's going to face a lot of high quality shots
- Scoob

Physical and mental workload, we will be the lesser team most nights.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Aug 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Once we put him on LTIR we will be under the cap! Yay!
- Sir_Robot_Farts


I think they need to be cap compliant before they can put him on LTIR - I could be wrong though
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