I’m very supportive of the new regime. I think they have one of the most complex management setups in the entire NHL. High quality people from top to bottom. But I don’t believe in the climate excuse. There’s always a climate for a good trade. Just got to have the skill to accomplish it.

Look at the Flames. They took chicken shit and turned it into chicken salad (on paper). That’s what you got to do as a organization.
- bloatedmosquito

The Flames went all in on a very old roster that hasn't produced a deep playoff run yet. They have a tiny window to win then they are going to be in cap hell for years. I wouldn't use them as a model for anything

There's one even worse scenario. But as a Canucks fan I don't dare speak it into reality. Like I said, I just can't see him walking. I'd actually take him on a similar deal to Kadri, but don't think his heart is in Canada. Could be wrong as it's just my gut feeling.
- Load Management

I don't either, this is the biggest and maybe last contract of his career, he's earned everything he's got. Still VAN should have an idea of this as well if they're being honest with each other.

The Flames went all in on a very old roster that hasn't produced a deep playoff run yet. They have a tiny window to win then they are going to be in cap hell for years. I wouldn't use them as a model for anything
- NorthNuck

CAL is in a 3 year window

VAN 3 years for their window to open.

CAL is in a 3 year window

VAN 3 years for their window to open.
- VanHockeyGuy

I could see Vans opening sooner than that. Young rosters can come together very quickly with the right guys improving and a couple of good additions. I'm guessing the team will be in a very different situation by this time next year.

That was my thought, too.
- Marwood

I’ve been flip flopping on this whole JTM situation.
At first I liked the trade.
Then folks on here talked about it being the wrong time to trade for a player like JTM (see that fallout now). Didn’t like the trade.
But he’s played so well during his time here it changed my mind. Liked the trade and wanted him to re-sign.
Seeing how difficult it is to re-sign him has changed my mind again. Now he can go (frank) himself.

I could see Vans opening sooner than that. Young rosters can come together very quickly with the right guys improving and a couple of good additions. I'm guessing the team will be in a very different situation by this time next year.
- NorthNuck

Maybe with the 2 new Russians, it will be interesting to see how "the lads" play.

"the lads"

https://www.urbandictiona...efine.php?term=The%20Lads
- VanHockeyGuy

Ya i travelled with soem aussies, some poop rubs off. I guess you were talking the bcgeu strike i your own vague way?! Wont effect much other than where restaurants get their liqiur orders. They are playig hardball underpaid workers, nothing new.

I’ve been flip flopping on this whole JTM situation.
At first I liked the trade.
Then folks on here talked about it being the wrong time to trade for a player like JTM (see that fallout now). Didn’t like the trade.
But he’s played so well during his time here it changed my mind. Liked the trade and wanted him to re-sign.
Seeing how difficult it is to re-sign him has changed my mind again. Now he can go (frank) himself.
- bloatedmosquito

Yup, I really don't care anymore, just let it end.

Worst case scenario, he walks, VAN get's little to nothing.

It's still better than being handcuffed into another bad long term deal.
- VanHockeyGuy

This is why a suggested a potential scenario that management may in the end consider the best return being a season and playoffs out of him and then using the cap space for Petey next summer. Not what I want the situation to turn into but if the Canucks are looking like a playoff team post Xmas, look out. One things for sure, this will be the last season that both Miller and Horvat are on the Canucks together.

CAL is in a 3 year window

VAN 3 years for their window to open.
- VanHockeyGuy

I don't think either team is touching the Avs over the next 3 years.

I don't either, this is the biggest and maybe last contract of his career, he's earned everything he's got. Still VAN should have an idea of this as well if they're being honest with each other.
- VanHockeyGuy

Really? Two teams have traded his ass. He even admitted to being immature during his time in NY and TB. Gets to Van and management gives him a chance at a leadership role. He excelled in the position given to him (not earned) and yet shows little to no loyalty for that opportunity. (frank) him.

Ya i travelled with soem aussies, some poop rubs off. I guess you were talking the bcgeu strike i your own vague way?! Wont effect much other than where restaurants get their liqiur orders. They are playig hardball underpaid workers, nothing new.
- neem55

Really? Two legal pot stores closed here until they can get more product? Same union.

I’ve been flip flopping on this whole JTM situation.
At first I liked the trade.
Then folks on here talked about it being the wrong time to trade for a player like JTM (see that fallout now). Didn’t like the trade.
But he’s played so well during his time here it changed my mind. Liked the trade and wanted him to re-sign.
Seeing how difficult it is to re-sign him has changed my mind again. Now he can go (frank) himself.
- bloatedmosquito

Using players like E Staal and Wheeler as a comparison, give him 5 years tops or send him packing. If the climate outside sucks (recent signings), then stay inside and don’t follow the crowd.

Really? Two teams have traded his ass. He even admitted to being immature during his time in NY and TB. Gets to Van and management gives him a chance at a leadership role. He excelled in the position given to him (not earned) and yet shows little to no loyalty for that opportunity. (frank) him.
- bloatedmosquito

If he walks, I'm okay with it.

The Flames went all in on a very old roster that hasn't produced a deep playoff run yet. They have a tiny window to win then they are going to be in cap hell for years. I wouldn't use them as a model for anything
- NorthNuck

Very old? Why you say that?

https://novacapsfans.com/...f-the-2021-22-season/amp/

Really? Two legal pot stores closed here until they can get more product? Same union.
- VanHockeyGuy

Ya cause its a workers strike im a shop steward in the bcgeu as you said, do your research. The governments angke is ita a product shortage. Use your noodle, a weed shortage in BC dont believe everything you think

Ya cause its a workers strike im a shop steward in the bcgeu as you said, do your research
- neem55

You must be the laziest of the lads then!

You must be the laziest of the lads then!
- VanHockeyGuy

The classic "im out of my depth of understanding" insult. Good lad.

Kosher Kush up to my eye balls b!tches.

The classic "im out of my depth of understanding" insult. Good lad.
- neem55

If the foil hat fits....

I don't think either team is touching the Avs over the next 3 years.
- Load Management

The Landeskog and Nichushkin contracts will age very badly. Just look at the Sharks deals in the past few years. Hopefully these new AGm’s will shine a light on this never ending trend.

Ya cause its a workers strike im a shop steward in the bcgeu as you said, do your research. The governments angke is ita a product shortage. Use your noodle, a weed shortage in BC dont believe everything you think
- neem55

I pointed out 2 places which can't get product you idiot.

Ya cause its a workers strike im a shop steward in the bcgeu as you said, do your research. The governments angke is ita a product shortage. Use your noodle, a weed shortage in BC dont believe everything you think
- neem55

I’m blame Marwood!😡

Kosher Kush up to my eye balls b!tches.
- boonerbuck

I'm too busy daisy chaining barbed treble hooks together to get stoned. Frozen Lemons once I get a few casts in. Gone fishing boys. Enjoy the day.

If the foil hat fits....
- VanHockeyGuy

is a union strike a conspiracy the warehousing and shipping of booze and pot are on targeted unionized striking as the BC government tries hard ball. Look up bcgeu strike, weed shortage in BC wow dude. Wow.