Doesn’t matter how old he was when signing contract. He will be 30 during the majority of first year. For all intensive purposes he’s 30
- Stayin alive

I have been enjoying this debate from the sidelines, but now I just have one question to everyone, is Couturier the problem on the Flyers? Does he make the team better or worse? Does his game translate for players going into their 30s, or is his game predicated on, say, speed like JG, who just signed a Mega deal at 29 years old?

I don't think Couturier is the best center in the league, just like I don't think Bergeron or Kopitar are the best centers in the league. What I do know is Bergeron and Kopitar are winners. They play the right way and they make their team's better and harder to play against. Marchand is a top 10 forward in this league and he will be the first to tell you he would be no where near that if not for Bergeron.

Get Couturier healthy again and playing with some good forwards, and the Flyers will have one part of a winning team. Couturier is part of the solution here, not part of the problem. Yes his contract is expensive, but I have no doubt Couts gets $8M+ in the open market, so I would say its a fair contract; not a steal and not an over-payment. The problem with the Flyers is their lack of a plan to surround Couts with some top-end talent, its not Couts!

I have been enjoying this debate from the sidelines, but now I just have one question to everyone, is Couturier the problem on the Flyers? Does he make the team better or worse? Does his game translate for players going into their 30s, or is his game predicated on, say, speed like JG, who just signed a Mega deal at 29 years old?

I don't think Couturier is the best center in the league, just like I don't think Bergeron or Kopitar are the best centers in the league. What I do know is Bergeron and Kopitar are winners. They play the right way and they make their team's better and harder to play against. Marchand is a top 10 forward in this league and he will be the first to tell you he would be no where near that if not for Bergeron.

Get Couturier healthy again and playing with some good forwards, and the Flyers will have one part of a winning team. Couturier is part of the solution here, not part of the problem. Yes his contract is expensive, but I have no doubt Couts gets $8M+ in the open market, so I would say its a fair contract; not a steal and not an over-payment. The problem with the Flyers is their lack of a plan to surround Couts with some top-end talent, its not Couts!
- jd250

Why would Sean Couturier be a problem for the Flyers?

In my opinion I don’t think the Flyers should trade Sean Couturier as much as they should shop him to see what the highest possible return is for him. Could Couturier bring back at minimum a Jeff Carter/Mike Richards like return?

OMG that shot by Bedard.

Please let the Hawkey gawds smile on us.
- MBFlyerfan

You know they won't

You know they won't
- Tomahawk

yeah.....I know.

Most likely Pittsburgh gets the first pick despite having the lowest odds or some such bullpoop like that.

yeah.....I know.

Most likely Pittsburgh gets the first pick despite having the lowest odds or some such bullpoop like that.
- MBFlyerfan

Edmonton getting McDavid and Pittsburgh getting Crosby was the weirdest thing. Are the chances of a team winning a lottery that brings you those two players in a franchise where one already had Gretzky and the other Lemieux?

Edmonton getting McDavid and Pittsburgh getting Crosby was the weirdest thing. Are the chances of a team winning a lottery that brings you those two players in a franchise where one already had Gretzky and the other Lemieux?
- SuperSchennBros

Pittsburgh's timing is there best attribute.

I have been enjoying this debate from the sidelines, but now I just have one question to everyone, is Couturier the problem on the Flyers? Does he make the team better or worse? Does his game translate for players going into their 30s, or is his game predicated on, say, speed like JG, who just signed a Mega deal at 29 years old?

I don't think Couturier is the best center in the league, just like I don't think Bergeron or Kopitar are the best centers in the league. What I do know is Bergeron and Kopitar are winners. They play the right way and they make their team's better and harder to play against. Marchand is a top 10 forward in this league and he will be the first to tell you he would be no where near that if not for Bergeron.

Get Couturier healthy again and playing with some good forwards, and the Flyers will have one part of a winning team. Couturier is part of the solution here, not part of the problem. Yes his contract is expensive, but I have no doubt Couts gets $8M+ in the open market, so I would say its a fair contract; not a steal and not an over-payment. The problem with the Flyers is their lack of a plan to surround Couts with some top-end talent, its not Couts!
- jd250

He makes the flyers better in a bad way. He is not part of the solution.

This team is far away from contending. This dumb ass GM has made it clear he has no intention to build around ex selke. So what purpose does he serve here if not going to help him out to try and win (not saying that is the direction they should go). Have to question his desire to win as well after him seeing this shct show up close for the last 10 years.

He has also made it clear he is not rebuilding. So keeping him around accomplishes what?

Scott sits back and allows this nonsense to continue as he clearly learned nothing from how the prior GM handled this team.

This just a flat out poorly run organization from top to bottom.

Pittsburgh's timing is there best attribute.
- mickel25

city of champions. But they filed bankruptcy a few times. Like that matters in any way.

I have been enjoying this debate from the sidelines, but now I just have one question to everyone, is Couturier the problem on the Flyers? Does he make the team better or worse? Does his game translate for players going into their 30s, or is his game predicated on, say, speed like JG, who just signed a Mega deal at 29 years old?

I don't think Couturier is the best center in the league, just like I don't think Bergeron or Kopitar are the best centers in the league. What I do know is Bergeron and Kopitar are winners. They play the right way and they make their team's better and harder to play against. Marchand is a top 10 forward in this league and he will be the first to tell you he would be no where near that if not for Bergeron.

Get Couturier healthy again and playing with some good forwards, and the Flyers will have one part of a winning team. Couturier is part of the solution here, not part of the problem. Yes his contract is expensive, but I have no doubt Couts gets $8M+ in the open market, so I would say its a fair contract; not a steal and not an over-payment. The problem with the Flyers is their lack of a plan to surround Couts with some top-end talent, its not Couts!
- jd250

But I do have one question. Immediately lists a bunch of questions 😂

$7.75 is not an unreasonable contract for a good 2-way 70 point guy.

The NMC and length of the contract are more concerning than the salary, honestly.

$7.75 is not an unreasonable contract for a good 2-way 70 point guy.

The NMC and length of the contract are more concerning than the salary, honestly.
- BINGO!

Wait until they find out what Hayes makes

Edmonton getting McDavid and Pittsburgh getting Crosby was the weirdest thing. Are the chances of a team winning a lottery that brings you those two players in a franchise where one already had Gretzky and the other Lemieux?
- SuperSchennBros

Some teams are shameless when it comes to targeted tanking.

Speaking of which, the 'Hawks are totally gonna get Bedard.

Some teams are shameless when it comes to targeted tanking.

Speaking of which, the 'Hawks are totally gonna get Bedard.
- Tomahawk

There is no shame in targeting high end talent for a number of seasons. A lot of successful teams have done that. This fanbase is craving for someone exciting to market.

It shows a clear direction, and plan for the future.

The Flyers are simply arrogant to think they can sidestep such an approach.

Some teams are shameless when it comes to targeted tanking.

Speaking of which, the 'Hawks are totally gonna get Bedard.
- Tomahawk

You think the hawks and pens felt shameful lifting those cups?

You think the hawks and pens felt shameful lifting those cups?
- ClaudeFather

I’m sure fans of Pittsburgh, Chicago, Tampa, and Washington are so upset at winning all those games over the years.

Oiler, and Leaf fans are just distraught being forced to watch elite players bore them night, after night.

Anyone that openly supports the process for next season is going to get exactly what they deserve. An embarrassing product that is somehow going to try to raise itself based on a few more fights.

You think the hawks and pens felt shameful lifting those cups?
- ClaudeFather

The Hawks just had awful ownership that happened to pass away. They never would have tried to win if the old owner did not pass away. The Pens were terrible at the right time twice.

Does anyone else get Hello Its Me 2050 sending them private messages calling you a POS or female genitalia?

Does anyone else get Hello Its Me 2050 sending them private messages calling you a POS or female genitalia?


- MBFlyerfan

Many, many have received PM's from him. Including me. Ignore it. If everyone ignores him, IT will go away.

By the way, we'll both be getting a new PM.

Many, many have received PM's from him. Including me. Ignore it. If everyone ignores him, IT will go away.

By the way, we'll both be getting a new PM.
- MJL

Oh no!

The Hawks just had awful ownership that happened to pass away. They never would have tried to win if the old owner did not pass away. The Pens were terrible at the right time twice.
- mickel25

The Flyers have very much of a similar issue regarding ownership.

I will maintain that things don’t change until Scott is no longer involved. Nobody wants a meddling owner, but he’s shown to be completely unaware to the incompetence around him.

Does anyone else get Hello Its Me 2050 sending them private messages calling you a POS or female genitalia?


- MBFlyerfan

Not yet. I aspire to it though.

You think the hawks and pens felt shameful lifting those cups?
- ClaudeFather

Ends may justify the means, but that doesn't mean there isn't a permanent air of stink from the way they went about it. And I'm mostly talking about the Pens here, especially the 83-84 tank job.

Will the Devils win a cup?

The Flyers have very much of a similar issue regarding ownership.

I will maintain that things don’t change until Scott is no longer involved. Nobody wants a meddling owner, but he’s shown to be completely unaware to the incompetence around him.
- FlyerFan3260

Flyers ownership has issues, but it's nowhere near as bad as the Bill Wirtz thing.

Ends may justify the means, but that doesn't mean there isn't a permanent air of stink from the way they went about it. And I'm mostly talking about the Pens here, especially the 83-84 tank job.
- Tomahawk

There's a big difference between what the Pens did and when a team moves older players or future assets because the team is not in position to win. The latter is not tanking.