neem55
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It would be two - million dollar replacement players in your scenario. Plus, I’m not confident that Podkolzin is ready to play in the top six consistently.
Plus plus, I don’t think you get more than a mid round pick for Boeser, and I don’t think you get anything for Pearson unless you are willing to retain 50%, which would be stupid in my opinion.
So, in this scenario, I’d rather trade Miller. Or let him walk at the end of the year for nothing. - 1970vintage
Selling on assets at their lowest value is how amateurs and fools operate business. Selling high on Miller will be the better option until/if Boeser can get back to looking like an elite goal scorer. Pearson is not going anywhere, I agree. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Selling on assets at their lowest value is how amateurs and fools operate business. Selling high on Miller will be the better option until/if Boeser can get back to looking like an elite goal scorer. Pearson is not going anywhere, I agree. - neem55
Unless Miller wants to play here so badly that he is willing to take a stupid contract extension, a 3 year $7.5m or something like that, trading him makes the most sense long term. Vegas probably has the space to trade for yet another high priced forward now that Lehner is done. Unless Price is moving to the desert that is… |
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neem55
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Unless Miller wants to play here so badly that he is willing to take a stupid contract extension, a 3 year $7.5m or something like that, trading him makes the most sense long term. Vegas probably has the space to trade for yet another high priced forward now that Lehner is done. Unless Price is moving to the desert that is… - 1970vintage
They don’t have much and need a goalie. I think one of the New York teams or LA, as I suspect those are the types of markets he wants to go to. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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They don’t have much and need a goalie. I think one of the New York teams or LA, as I suspect those are the types of markets he wants to go to. - neem55
I was just kidding. It seems to be the Knights MO to be in on every high end forward who’s available.
Wonder if Columbus could use a C for Johnny Hockey. |
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neem55
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I was just kidding. It seems to be the Knights MO to be in on every high end forward who’s available.
Wonder if Columbus could use a C for Johnny Hockey. - 1970vintage
I was just talking with a buddy about that last night. He lives close to there in the off-season. Makes a lot of sense if they keep building right. |
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TurdFergeson
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Location: On the road again Joined: 01.04.2021
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They don’t have much and need a goalie. I think one of the New York teams or LA, as I suspect those are the types of markets he wants to go to. - neem55
Rags has been trying to trade Lehner and couldn’t find a taker. It’s awesome he’s out for the season. Thompson is the guy. They may sign or trade for a cheap back up but that’s it. |
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Trying to understand where the Canucks are at in the Pacific division.
Well healthy now except for Poolman. But Dermont replaces just fine and add Rathbone to the mix is even better. Then the two new Russian forwards make top 9 solid. Also the two new fourth liners in Lazar and Dakota add the speed and grit needed. Plus Lazar can be used on face offs for RHC. Not having Sutter do that was a huge disadvantage.
So improved PK, more offense and D decent enough in front of Demko. As long as team stays healthy they can win enough to keep pace for a top 3 playoff spot. |
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Rags has been trying to trade Lehner and couldn’t find a taker. It’s awesome he’s out for the season. Thompson is the guy. They may sign or trade for a cheap back up but that’s it. - TurdFergeson
Colin Delia for a 3rd. |
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Bye - A_SteamingLombardi
The biggest mess previous management left is low prospect pool and cap. They did this by selling picks and signing fat contracts. So the new management doesn’t have a lot options in flat cap era.
Basically they either keep the core together and improve on it or sell everyone by the TDL and off-season in a new 5 year draft and develop plan. Okay |
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Trying to understand where the Canucks are at in the Pacific division.
Well healthy now except for Poolman. But Dermont replaces just fine and add Rathbone to the mix is even better. Then the two new Russian forwards make top 9 solid. Also the two new fourth liners in Lazar and Dakota add the speed and grit needed. Plus Lazar can be used on face offs for RHC. Not having Sutter do that was a huge disadvantage.
So improved PK, more offense and D decent enough in front of Demko. As long as team stays healthy they can win enough to keep pace for a top 3 playoff spot. - Quinn's Quest
I hate to tell you this, but we have no depth, we are one significant injury away to either Hughes (especially), Myers, OEL from being near the bottom of the standings. I also think banking on huge seasons from unproven players like Mikilev and Kuzemenko is asking a LOT. We MAY sneak into the last wild card, but I can name 4 teams that could easily beat us in the Pacific standings and that's not even trying hard: Edmonton, Calgary, LA, LV. |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Load Management
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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- VanHockeyGuy
What's so funny as shole? |
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K-man25
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Location: K Town Joined: 09.02.2014
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Trying to understand where the Canucks are at in the Pacific division.
Well healthy now except for Poolman. But Dermont replaces just fine and add Rathbone to the mix is even better. Then the two new Russian forwards make top 9 solid. Also the two new fourth liners in Lazar and Dakota add the speed and grit needed. Plus Lazar can be used on face offs for RHC. Not having Sutter do that was a huge disadvantage.
So improved PK, more offense and D decent enough in front of Demko. As long as team stays healthy they can win enough to keep pace for a top 3 playoff spot. - Quinn's Quest
You guys will love Lazar, great guy but he’s neither tough or good.if fact he couldn’t make the Flames roster and was great in the press box taking notes. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Trying to understand where the Canucks are at in the Pacific division.
Well healthy now except for Poolman. But Dermont replaces just fine and add Rathbone to the mix is even better. Then the two new Russian forwards make top 9 solid. Also the two new fourth liners in Lazar and Dakota add the speed and grit needed. Plus Lazar can be used on face offs for RHC. Not having Sutter do that was a huge disadvantage.
So improved PK, more offense and D decent enough in front of Demko. As long as team stays healthy they can win enough to keep pace for a top 3 playoff spot. - Quinn's Quest
Summarized to my way of thinking. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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The biggest mess previous management left is low prospect pool and cap. They did this by selling picks and signing fat contracts. So the new management doesn’t have a lot options in flat cap era.
Basically they either keep the core together and improve on it or sell everyone by the TDL and off-season in a new 5 year draft and develop plan. Okay - Quinn's Quest
Don’t see the need for a tear down. |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Don’t see the need for a tear down. - Nighthawk
That's because you're only looking at this season, this core has had 3 years to try and be a contender and it's mired in the playoff bubble just hoping to get in to luck their way into a run. It doesn't need a complete teardown, but this core and especially the defense needs a huge makeover before they squander Petey and QH's prime years. I'll take a couple of years step back in order to make a huge leap forward and the ability to be consistantly great rather than pray to god duct tape, bailing wire and spit will keep the team perfectly healthy all year round. Especially Demko and QH, because if either of them go down for any length of time, this team is going to slide quickly all the way down the standings and into lottery territory. |
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That's because you're only looking at this season, this core has had 3 years to try and be a contender and it's mired in the playoff bubble just hoping to get in to luck their way into a run. It doesn't need a complete teardown, but this core and especially the defense needs a huge makeover before they squander Petey and QH's prime years. I'll take a couple of years step back in order to make a huge leap forward and the ability to be consistantly great rather than pray to god duct tape, bailing wire and spit will keep the team perfectly healthy all year round. Especially Demko and QH, because if either of them go down for any length of time, this team is going to slide quickly all the way down the standings and into lottery territory. - DariusKnight
That’s probably the assessment management is going to make before the TDL. Keep or makeover.
It takes years to develop draft picks and prospects. To get them only the core has value. So probably no one outside of Pods will be around when the team is playoff ready again. |
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I hate to tell you this, but we have no depth, we are one significant injury away to either Hughes (especially), Myers, OEL from being near the bottom of the standings. I also think banking on huge seasons from unproven players like Mikilev and Kuzemenko is asking a LOT. We MAY sneak into the last wild card, but I can name 4 teams that could easily beat us in the Pacific standings and that's not even trying hard: Edmonton, Calgary, LA, LV. - DariusKnight
It’s not the same roster from 3 years ago. They are adding to the core younger and better support players as well. Also it takes years for a core to develop and we have seen improvements to their game compete.
A full roster at training camp and Coach Bruce does make a difference. Of course health is key. No team in flat cap era can sustain key injuries and succeed.
No one player has to have a huge season for team to compete for the top 3. Just stay healthy and play well under Bruce.
Given the above, I disagree this version of the Canucks is easily beat by Oil, Flames, Kings and LV. All of those teams have question marks. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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You guys will love Lazar, great guy but he’s neither tough or good.if fact he couldn’t make the Flames roster and was great in the press box taking notes. - K-man25
All my Bruins fans buddies say the exact oppsosite!! Great GM'ing there K-Dog...
Anything else?
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A perfect example of how Canucks fans badly overrate the teams players/former players is Tyler Motte, who some felt should get a 2 million dollar deal, yet still can't find a job in the league. |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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A perfect example of how Canucks fans badly overrate the teams players/former players is Tyler Motte, who some felt should get a 2 million dollar deal, yet still can't find a job in the league. - Reubenkincade
Some thought he was the key to making the playoffs. |
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Some thought he was the key to making the playoffs. - Marwood
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A perfect example of how Canucks fans badly overrate the teams players/former players is Tyler Motte, who some felt should get a 2 million dollar deal, yet still can't find a job in the league. - Reubenkincade
I guess they liked his effort. But yes easily replaceable.
How do you like the forwards now? Overrated or on the verge to succeed as a group? |
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